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Sounds like what Drury proposed a few years ago.

Arch averaged 16,350 visitors a day in June and so far in July it’s on a 20,000 a day pace, so a hotel there, especially an Arch themed hotel would do well

Nice write up from STLPR

Hope this latest wave of buzz can start to snowball retail leasings a bit. Especially now that rates will be going down over the next year or so

Another old bridge pedestrian project, this time in downtown Knoxville. Still hoping Great Rivers, national park, the city and landing developers consider devoting half of the Eads to a bike/walk project, connecting the IL trails and the Brickline Grennway/arch.

^The streetlights on that bridge remind me of the over-the-top lighting installation that originally went onto the Kingshighway viaduct replacement. 

^They do! I wish the rest of that Kingshighway viaduct were as pretty.

FirstAlert Forward: The shift in Laclede’s Landing from nightlife to neighborhood 

There was a brief mention (2:36) that there is talk of converting the old casino dock into a farmers market. 

Definitely a puff piece which I appreciate, but I would like to see some reporting into the destructive influence of the casino to the liveliness of the Landing. When is the last time anybody has asked them any questions about anything? They own the former Big Daddy's and Sundeckers, and both are rotting. They have built a permanent fence across 1st street (drilling directly into the brand new streetscape) ruining connectivity.

Not to mention the original sin of tearing down Mississippi Nights and the adjacent buildings with promises of a new district that never materialized. Now it's parking that I don't think is utilized either. 

While all the renovations are nice, the holdings of the casino are kind of the keystone to its long term success IMO.

Yea area north of the landing is just destroyed for a lot of reasons.

I feel like I've read a "The Landing is back" puff piece every two years for the last two decades, excluding the Arch renovation stories. It's occupancy might be strong but it needs new construction, lots of it. It should be STLs hottest neighborhood grabbing premium rent prices. I'd also like it to be STLs luxury shopping district. Shopping at Prada then eating dinner on a Paris style river boat, I dream. 

I still contend this neighborhood should continue on it's current residential path, but also look to be a neighborhood with entertainment options such as bars, music venues & other uniquely STL businesses. Once this neighborhood is a flourishing district, it should be where docks are built for the Viking Cruises & other boats. Those people that come off of the boats would walk right into the neighborhood for meals, shopping as part of their Gateway Arch experience. I still think bringing in more riverboats & the McDonald's riverboat concept back to the riverfront would attract lots of visitors. There are not many amenities in the immediate area. That is my dream for the area. Amazing to me how under-utilized the Landing & North Riverfront are. 

It all starts and ends with N/S connectivity. It's simply too small and out of the way to stand on its own. Yes we need to develop the empty lots in the Landing proper, but we also need to turn the area to the north into 5 over 1 city. 

Those few blocks of the Landing are so cool on its face, I wish I would’ve seen its heyday. I hate that we lost so much of our north riverfront, we’ve essentially just burnt it to the ground. The landing is always a little bit sad thinking about those buildings covering our entire riverfront. The Arch was overall a positive thing, I just wish they wouldn’t had cleared so much of the grounds and ran an interstate through it. Then we went and have destroyed the south riverfront as well.

Going to always mourn the Switzer licorice building from the landing and now Crunden Martin to the south

The landing still feels very dead, seems like tourists don’t make it up that way. What Cobblestone is doing is awesome, so I encourage you to check it out and support! We need more shops like them downtown. Aces BBQ down there has great food but I can’t really figure out their hours consistently and I don’t know how busy they ever are, so I say go check them out too!

I do miss the heyday of the Landing in the 80's, I feel like it was that  periods version of Gaslight Square. Younger folks will probable never experience anything like that in St. Louis. It was electric on a Friday or Saturday night. 

The Landings biggest issue is that people won’t stop talking about what it was (which it will never be again) and aren’t talking about what it is and what’s so close to being- a work, play and live neighborhood

^ Yep,  

First great start would be city leadership/bi-state going all on in converting Eads Bridge to a pedestrian linear parkway across the Big Muddy.   It is just a fricking great idea for the Landing, city, and region as a whole.

Second, a bigger ask and I think next big thing IMO would getting rid of the raised freeway between the convention/near northside and Landing.    Give it a feel for residents and convention attendees (hotel room) of finally connected.   I already got the rebrand going as simply the "L" tying Arch Grounds, Landing anchoring and the convention space creating a rough L shaped 

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8:38 PM - Feb 09

^ Yep,  

First great start would be city leadership/bi-state going all on in converting Eads Bridge to a pedestrian linear parkway across the Big Muddy.   It is just a fricking great idea for the Landing, city, and region as a whole.

Second, a bigger ask and I think next big thing IMO would getting rid of the raised freeway between the convention/near northside and Landing.    Give it a feel for residents and convention attendees (hotel room) of finally connected.   I already got the rebrand going as simply the "L" tying Arch Grounds, Landing anchoring and the convention space creating a rough L shaped 

Agreed with the Eads. Other river cities have executed this without an attraction as big as the arch and a bridge as historic as the eads, so we can too. Would be immediately huge for foot traffic for Wash Ave, the landing, the arch and eventually hopefully would do some good for the north riverfront and east riverfront.

Newest Landing apartments

Some very exciting things coming up.

Very nice!  Which one is this this?  I wonder how many existing buildings are left to be renovated there before something potentially new is built.  Seems like there's a been a lot work over the last few years, which is great to see.

On the latest episode of Arch City Report (the business journal podcast) they interviewed somebody from Advantes. Good info on the state of things down there + they dropped the info that Brian Hardesty is working to turn the former President Casino dock into one of his concepts. It will be something like Nine Mile Garden with a farmers market element. They are moving quickly and hoping to have it open by.

This activation will also allow them to "hopefully" unblock some of the barriers between the Landing and LKS (including the north flood gate)

Further up the Riverfront Trail, there is talk about getting the cool old Laclede Gas building in front of Rootwad Park turned into a skate park

Apartments built to-date are at 92% occupancy.

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑

5:53 PM - 7 days ago

On the latest episode of Arch City Report (the business journal podcast) they interviewed somebody from Advantes. Good info on the state of things down there + they dropped the info that Brian Hardesty is working to turn the former President Casino dock into one of his concepts. It will be something like Nine Mile Garden with a farmers market element. They are moving quickly and hoping to have it open by.

This activation will also allow them to "hopefully" unblock some of the barriers between the Landing and LKS (including the north flood gate)

Further up the Riverfront Trail, there is talk about getting the cool old Laclede Gas building in front of Rootwad Park turned into a skate park

Goal is April 2027

^And I'd prefer a riverboat attraction or three, but I figure this market will be a good step and it will help to activate the riverfront below the landing a little at least.