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Post4:43 AM - 9 days ago#7851

Please enjoy that this is page 314 while we can. 

Oh no! I'm at 315! ;-(

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Post11:09 PM - 8 days ago#7852

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... ayton.html

Morgan and Morgan to move from their office at 200 Broadway to PNC Center in Clayton later this year. They have signed a 17,000 square foot lease at the PNC Center, which is larger than their current 12,000 square foot space. They have 16 lawyers based in St. Louis and plan to expand.

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Post1:36 PM - 8 days ago#7853

The law firm exodus has just been a killer the last few years

There’s a couple more smallish ones that will leave when their lease is up that I’m aware of


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Post9:03 PM - 7 days ago#7854

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... ayton.html

CliftonLarsonAllen, who has 210 St. Louis-based employees, is considering a move to Clayton after their lease at 600 Washington expires in December 2027. They currently occupy 2 floors, or 31,000 square feet, of the nearly half-vacant building.

They are considering Centene Plaza B or Hanely Corproate Tower, but they also said they could stay at 600 Washington, especially if the Clayton space fills up.

The mayor's office had no comment, but said she would comment on downtown's future in the State of the City address.

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Post10:30 PM - 7 days ago#7855

seems like an etax break play, just like Lewis Rice

Both SLDC and GSL now have a person who's job is to meet with downtown businesses and retain them 

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Post1:33 AM - 6 days ago#7856

Didn’t you post earlier this week on twitter that businesses don’t care about the E tax?

If I’m paying the tax, they should be paying the tax.

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Post9:49 PM - 5 days ago#7857

Mets have lost 11 straight games maybe their broadcaster shouldn’t have said anything nasty about St.Louis karma comes back in many different ways……


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Post10:01 PM - 5 days ago#7858

^ don’t cross Denis

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Post10:35 PM - 5 days ago#7859

JaneJacobsGhost wrote:
1:33 AM - 6 days ago
Didn’t you post earlier this week on twitter that businesses don’t care about the E tax?

If I’m paying the tax, they should be paying the tax.
It doesnt mean companies wont take free money 

Post10:38 PM - 5 days ago#7860

These 2,425 had a 14.93% vacancy on Jan 1 and April 17th its 12.16%  (+67 leases)

i was going to update this more often but ran into some issues with how under renovation units are handled.  the Bogen had more of those originally then i thought since threw off my starting point. 
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Post11:26 PM - 5 days ago#7861

Bella’s Coffee Cafe is opening next week at Wash Ave and 11th

Hot Pizza Cold Beer is back for 10 days for the robotics competition.

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Post7:22 PM - 2 days ago#7862

dbInSouthCity wrote:
10:35 PM - 5 days ago
JaneJacobsGhost wrote:
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Didn’t you post earlier this week on twitter that businesses don’t care about the E tax?

If I’m paying the tax, they should be paying the tax.
It doesnt mean companies wont take free money 
Man I hope you're right, this would be a massive blow.

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Post9:13 PM - 2 days ago#7863

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... -shop.html

"James also owns Buddy’s Wine Bar and Bistro at 1001 Washington Ave. He is also planning to open a food and drink market, similar to Straub’s Fine Grocers, with a speakeasy, along Washington Avenue this summer. He declined to discuss the specifics of that project."

Owners of Bella's Coffee are apparently looking into a 3rd business concept on Washington Ave.

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Post2:22 PM - 2 days ago#7864

they are few and far between
[url=http://The Disappearance of the Public Bench]The Disappearance of the Public Bench[/url]

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Post6:44 PM - 1 day ago#7866

MRNHS wrote:
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Another rough headline:

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... again.html
Does Jacob Kirn get paid by the number of "Downtown St. Louis sucks!" stories he files?  I'm only 2/3 kidding. 

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Post3:45 AM - 1 day ago#7868

New Census job data for 2023 came out back in December, not sure how I missed it.

From 2022 to 2023, downtown added about 1,600 jobs for a total of 59,352 jobs. This reflects the continued rebound from Covid, when jobs bottomed out at about 55,300. Still below 2019's nearly 61,000 jobs. In 2002, downtown had more than 74,500 jobs.

This is about 28,260 jobs/sq mi.

For some comparisons:

KC: 46,137; +1,500 vs 2022, +700 vs 2019, -8.8k vs 2002. This is about 30,760 jobs/sq mi.

Indy: 121,728; +5,000 vs 2022, +3,500 vs 2019, +30,700 vs 2002. ~42,000/sq mi.

CIN: 70,912; +1,500 vs 2022, -450 vs 2019, -5,800 vs 2002. ~43,000/sq mi.

CLE: 88,907; +3,600 vs 2022, -6,100 vs 2019, -23,400 vs 2002. ~36,300/sq mi.

DEN: 125,970; -13,300 vs 2022, -7,500 vs 2019, +20,900 vs 2002. ~90,000/sq mi.

Clayton: 32,452; +800 vs 2022, +5,800 vs 2019, +9,500 vs 2002. ~73,750/sq mi.

If you combined downtown STL and downtown Clayton: 91,804; +2,400 vs 2022, +4,200 vs 2019, -5,650 vs 2002. ~36,100/sq mi.

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Post2:29 PM - 1 day ago#7869

soulardx wrote:
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oakangeles wrote: And downtown is anchored by 17 hotels (according to google maps), two sports arenas, a convention center, 2-5 transit stops depending on your definition of "downtown" and a world class, one of a kind attraction in the Arch. It has 10.000 permanent residents and according to your older post, 5 million visitors a year yet it feels forgotten about while the CWE honestly feels like the true city center

What makes downtowns special is that they are the nexus of the collective cultures that the city as a whole has to offer.  My suggestions for events weren't just meant to be a "this would be a fun thing," they were very specifically meant as a way to bring the culture of the city at large to the doorsteps of both out of towners and people looking to relocate to apartments in places like Lacledes Landing etc. If St Louis only has one shot to present itself to visitors, it is failing at that opportunity.  People choose to be in the heart of the city because it offers a lifestyle that suburbs could never provide.  Sometimes that feeling is near intangible and is never something that will show up on a Q3 profits spreadsheet or be brought up in corporate board meetings, but it makes all the difference toward the desirability of a location.  I can't offer any magic solutions, but I can say that it is the missing "it factor" which I've seen be the difference between a vibrant, lived in neighborhood or just a collection of tall glass boxes.  I honestly don't have any more to offer other than that
Let's put it this way, if Barnes and Washington University disinvested from the CWE, it would have a steep decline and would cease being what it is today.

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....  the state of the railway exchange and the block around it are a colossal embarrassment. That building is an architectural gem. Even when vacant, the facade should be well lit, cleaned and protected....
I stand by the description of "colossal embarrassment".   In fact, this story paints an even more dire picture of an owner and city incapable of securing and maintaining the building. There's a non-small chance the building just goes up in flames.

$1.5 million to secure the building and nothing to show for it.

St. Louis' Railway Exchange is a magnet for trespassers. The city can't keep up.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... -top-story

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Post3:38 PM - 1 day ago#7870

Really feels like every winter is a roll of the dice whether is survives or not

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Post3:56 PM - 1 day ago#7871

There has been a lot companies with 50-175 jobs leaving but we’ve never had a huge one with like 500+. But we’ve had 500+ entries in downtown since Covid (Square and USDA)

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Post4:39 PM - 1 day ago#7872

StlAlex wrote:
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New Census job data for 2023 came out back in December, not sure how I missed it.

From 2022 to 2023, downtown added about 1,600 jobs for a total of 59,352 jobs. This reflects the continued rebound from Covid, when jobs bottomed out at about 55,300. Still below 2019's nearly 61,000 jobs. In 2002, downtown had more than 74,500 jobs.

This is about 28,260 jobs/sq mi.

For some comparisons:

KC: 46,137; +1,500 vs 2022, +700 vs 2019, -8.8k vs 2002. This is about 30,760 jobs/sq mi.

Indy: 121,728; +5,000 vs 2022, +3,500 vs 2019, +30,700 vs 2002. ~42,000/sq mi.

CIN: 70,912; +1,500 vs 2022, -450 vs 2019, -5,800 vs 2002. ~43,000/sq mi.

CLE: 88,907; +3,600 vs 2022, -6,100 vs 2019, -23,400 vs 2002. ~36,300/sq mi.

DEN: 125,970; -13,300 vs 2022, -7,500 vs 2019, +20,900 vs 2002. ~90,000/sq mi.

Clayton: 32,452; +800 vs 2022, +5,800 vs 2019, +9,500 vs 2002. ~73,750/sq mi.

If you combined downtown STL and downtown Clayton: 91,804; +2,400 vs 2022, +4,200 vs 2019, -5,650 vs 2002. ~36,100/sq mi.

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This is good data and explains a lot - downtown has more jobs but feels like it has less because the density is so low due to them all being so spread out.  I really think we need to focus on the core downtown (figure Arch Grounds to Tucker, Wash Ave to Market) and work on a plan to add as much density (job/residential as possible).   Focus on the center and grow out vs. now we seem to be adding on the outskirts (DT West, Cortex, Soulard), but nothing in the true core.

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Post5:41 PM - 1 day ago#7873

This definitely represents a worse outlook on jobs in downtown than I thought

Couple those numbers with a % that work remotely a given day and that’s how you get a dead downtown during the week


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Post5:53 PM - 1 day ago#7874

delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote:
5:41 PM - 1 day ago
This definitely represents a worse outlook on jobs in downtown than I thought

Couple those numbers with a % that work remotely a given day and that’s how you get a dead downtown during the week


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Yep. For example, Square was referenced above, and they effectively have an empty office 5 days a week.

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Post6:22 PM - 1 day ago#7875

63101, 63102 and 63103

2019: 80,419
2023: 76,885
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