^And Illinois loves to spend its money!
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^^You've called it exactly Gone Corporate. The main reason London was awarded the Olympics was due to their plan to overhaul a large area of East London. The plan included new housing, parks, sports facilities and environmental cleanup for a much neglected area of London (which I happened to live in for a while). London was considered a long shot before being selected, but the master plan was unique compared to other bidding cities because it would transform a depressed area.
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Love this site. No idea is to far fetched. We should have a thread about building the space elevator in St. Louis. Screw orbital dynamics. 
I like the East St Louis idea, but feel the need to point out there are PLENTY of depressed areas on this side of the river unfortunately.
North Laclede's Landing, Chouteau's Landing, Kosciusko, parts of Midtown, 22nd street, Mill Creek, etc
North Laclede's Landing, Chouteau's Landing, Kosciusko, parts of Midtown, 22nd street, Mill Creek, etc
The one idea you could incorporate is a new RAMS stadium is also your new Olympic Stadium. With that in mind, ideally you could incorporate an olympic village into your long term plans as part of redevelopement near a new stadium. To me this screams a north riverfront open area stadium below the New MRB and Pinnacle Casino with a long term plan for developing Bottleworks, infilling Laclede's Landing, near northside, and the likes that can be tied into Arch Grounds.
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Yes, this northern part of the city needs to start developing some skyline, especially now that we're getting the new bridge (Stan Musial Bridge?) The Bottle District would be a good place to start. It couldn't hold the whole Olympic Village, but it could hold some of it.
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Concerts. Festivals for families and more Concerts. That's what London used Hyde Park for.roger wyoming II wrote:What use would be ripe for P/Igoe site?
That'd be quite the summer for a concert goer, Fair St. Louis followed by the Olympics Concerts followed up by LouFest. Of course this begs the question what acts are going to be able to pack 70,000 into Pruitt-Igoe in 2024? -- but I imagine something else might be done with the site well before 2024.
I'd love for St. Louis to go 24/7 for the Olympics, I'd love to see a 24/7 district before then but especially during an Olympics.
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Well, let's build Buckminster Fuller's geodesic dome over East St. Louis while we're at it.STLEnginerd wrote:Love this site. No idea is to far fetched. We should have a thread about building the space elevator in St. Louis. Screw orbital dynamics.
Well, if we're going to get the Olympics it looks like we'll have to beat out Tulsa!
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/01/sport ... am.html?hp
Let's just say they are a little out of touch over there.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/01/sport ... am.html?hp
Let's just say they are a little out of touch over there.
Good for Tulsa. Although it is a longshot for them, at least it appears there is a "can do" spirit in Tulsa.
Hosting an Olympics can be transformative for a city and region.
Hosting an Olympics can be transformative for a city and region.
From the Tulsa article:
“The problem isn’t what people think of us,” LToya Knighten of Tulsa’s chamber of commerce said. “It’s that they don’t think of us.”
Bingo. With the exposure we have been getting on TV, movies and video games lately in addition to pro sports teams, we should be pushing harder for this. Before anyone says anything about crime, I truly believe that St. Louisans are more critical of the city than anyone else.
“The problem isn’t what people think of us,” LToya Knighten of Tulsa’s chamber of commerce said. “It’s that they don’t think of us.”
Bingo. With the exposure we have been getting on TV, movies and video games lately in addition to pro sports teams, we should be pushing harder for this. Before anyone says anything about crime, I truly believe that St. Louisans are more critical of the city than anyone else.
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Exactly. People up in Olympia have very positive perceptions of St. Louis, even if they have never been here.
Really, I hate to throw wet blankets on this...
I have a semi-professional relationship with the brass over at the St. Louis Sports Commission and asked about their take on this and if St. Louis was going to pursue this. Bottom line, no.
Through the Sport Commission and other related dealings with the IOC and USOC there's some things to keep in mind.
Since the 1996 and the bad-taste the Atlanta games left in the mouths of the IOC, the IOC basically stated no games will be ever held in second-tier markets within the host nation.
That is, if the games are in the Czech Republic, it will be Prague, Germany: Berlin (not Frankfurt not Munich) Russia: Moscow (not St. Petersburg) USA: NY, LA or Chicago. According to the SLSC, cities like Boston, Dallas, San Fran, etc don't have a snowballs chance. The Olympics have gotten to the point of such extreme expense that it is now a national endeavor to pull them off. Cities that hosted games in the past would never even be considered again—St. Louis, Antwerp, Munich, Melbourne, Atlanta. That's really unfortunate as St. Louis could prove a better host city than Prague, Helsinki or Johannesburg but that's not the guidelines.
Also, this is viewed as a cash-grab by the USOC. Cities will have to pay a $10 million dollar application fee just to put together a bid to be the US host city. If ten cities bite, that's $100 million for the USOC.
As much as I would kill to see St. Louis host the Olympics again, it's a different animal than just 20 years ago.
I have a semi-professional relationship with the brass over at the St. Louis Sports Commission and asked about their take on this and if St. Louis was going to pursue this. Bottom line, no.
Through the Sport Commission and other related dealings with the IOC and USOC there's some things to keep in mind.
Since the 1996 and the bad-taste the Atlanta games left in the mouths of the IOC, the IOC basically stated no games will be ever held in second-tier markets within the host nation.
That is, if the games are in the Czech Republic, it will be Prague, Germany: Berlin (not Frankfurt not Munich) Russia: Moscow (not St. Petersburg) USA: NY, LA or Chicago. According to the SLSC, cities like Boston, Dallas, San Fran, etc don't have a snowballs chance. The Olympics have gotten to the point of such extreme expense that it is now a national endeavor to pull them off. Cities that hosted games in the past would never even be considered again—St. Louis, Antwerp, Munich, Melbourne, Atlanta. That's really unfortunate as St. Louis could prove a better host city than Prague, Helsinki or Johannesburg but that's not the guidelines.
Also, this is viewed as a cash-grab by the USOC. Cities will have to pay a $10 million dollar application fee just to put together a bid to be the US host city. If ten cities bite, that's $100 million for the USOC.
As much as I would kill to see St. Louis host the Olympics again, it's a different animal than just 20 years ago.
It's healthy to dream anyway, but my two cents are that I saw a presentation of the Chicago bid in 2008 at an IDOT conference and it kind of made me less excited about the whole idea. A couple of the things that stood out were that they mentioned the loop in Chicago would basically become a no-go zone for residents trying to get about normally and that an entirely new transit system would need to be created to meet the needs of visitors ($$$$). I found that surprising given their existing transit system. Also they said that what sets U.S. hosted games apart from the rest of the world is that our games rely on private sponsorship for a majority of the funding. Do we have a Coca-Cola in town who would step up? Another thing that surprised me was how heavily they marketed 'leaving a legacy for the children of Chicago' in their pitch, this message was cut with Michael Jordan imagery in their sizzle reel. We could do the same with JJK and the children of St. Louis, but it's really just packaging for the corporate interests that would need to prop this bid up.
Yes, AB-InBevnora wrote:Do we have a Coca-Cola in town who would step up?
Yeah, they'd be the elephant in the room. I put a question mark on it because I have no idea if their global marketing ambitions includes the marketing of St. Louis any more.
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Well, it looks like Tulsa's quixotic dreams fell to earth:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/04/sport ... rechp&_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/04/sport ... rechp&_r=0
https://www.thesportsexaminer.com/los-a ... tennessee/
LA28 organizers announce six football preliminaries sites in California, Missouri, New York, Ohio and Tennessee
The long-awaited announcement of the 2028 Olympic football cities, for preliminary matches came on Tuesday, with six recently-built sites spread around the U.S.:
● Columbus, Ohio: ScottsMiracle-Gro Field (20,371) ~ opened 2021
● Nashville, Tennessee: Geodis Park (30,000) ~ opened 2022
● New York, New York: being built in Etihad Park (Queens: 25,000) ~ opening 2027
● San Diego, California: Snapdragon Stadium (35,000) ~ opened 2022
● San Jose, California: PayPal Park (18,000) ~ opened 2015
● St. Louis, Missouri: Energizer Park (22,243) ~ opened 2022
REALLY tremendous opportunity for the city to shine on an international platform! It's the best of both worlds really, as someone pointed out elsewhere to me. As they said, we get the benefits of hosting Olympic events (tourism and publicity), without the massive burden of being the host city (displacement of residents, upfront cost, building new stadiums that have no long-term use, etc)pdm_ad wrote: ↑12:10 PM - Feb 03https://www.thesportsexaminer.com/los-a ... tennessee/
LA28 organizers announce six football preliminaries sites in California, Missouri, New York, Ohio and Tennessee
The long-awaited announcement of the 2028 Olympic football cities, for preliminary matches came on Tuesday, with six recently-built sites spread around the U.S.:
● Columbus, Ohio: ScottsMiracle-Gro Field (20,371) ~ opened 2021
● Nashville, Tennessee: Geodis Park (30,000) ~ opened 2022
● New York, New York: being built in Etihad Park (Queens: 25,000) ~ opening 2027
● San Diego, California: Snapdragon Stadium (35,000) ~ opened 2022
● San Jose, California: PayPal Park (18,000) ~ opened 2015
● St. Louis, Missouri: Energizer Park (22,243) ~ opened 2022
Local coverage of the announcement: Energizer Park will host games for 2028 Olympic soccer tournament
Would be great to have a few new mixed-use buildings to show off along with a timber tower on its way up (or completed??)
Ideally, Brickline Greenway, the mass timber and Chouteaus Landing would all be active at that time or nearish completion. Having all that happening would do a lot for downtown perception.jtlq53 wrote: ↑4:20 PM - Feb 03Would be great to have a few new mixed-use buildings to show off along with a timber tower on its way up (or completed??)
Not only has a venue been added for St. Louis but now a “St. Louis Zone” is created on the LA28 webpage. Makes me wonder if STL isn’t in line to receive other events.
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I assume it’s just soccer but I think they should redo the marathon here in 1904 style. Rat poison and no water.
jshank83 wrote: ↑6:25 PM - Feb 03I assume it’s just soccer but I think they should redo the marathon here in 1904 style. Rat poison and no water.addxb2 wrote: ↑5:34 PM - Feb 03Not only has a venue been added for St. Louis but now a “St. Louis Zone” is created on the LA28 webpage. Makes me wonder if STL isn’t in line to receive other events.
