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PostJun 22, 2011#501

@countondowntown reported on March 1st that 5/3 Bank was going into this corner via Twitter . That's 3 1/2 months ago.(You should follow @countondowntown for all your downtown news.)
Also, rumors have been swirling for quite a while now that the retailer the P-D is alluding to might be Old Navy.

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PostJun 22, 2011#502

^I do follow @countondowntown. I just didn't then.

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PostJun 22, 2011#503

the count wrote:@countondowntown reported on March 1st that 5/3 Bank was going into this corner via Twitter . That's 3 1/2 months ago.(You should follow @countondowntown for all your downtown news.)
Also, rumors have been swirling for quite a while now that the retailer the P-D is alluding to might be Old Navy.
You can count on the count.

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PostJun 22, 2011#504

^That's right!

But on a serious note and OT: I think the P-D is doing a good job. We, amateurs, can tweet instantly. They first have to verify everything three times so that slows up their processes. It must be hard sometimes to be a journalist in the age where everything's instant.

The P-D is communicating with the blogosphere and has a good presence on Twitter. I believe they're now working on adding a local blogs section to STLtoday.com

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PostJun 22, 2011#505

Old Navy? Really? Is downtown where their target market resides? I wouldnt think so.

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PostJun 22, 2011#506

I hope I am wrong but I don't think this area is ready for a retailer such as Old Navy yet.

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PostJun 22, 2011#507

I think Old Navy would be a fantastic fit and have considered them for this site before. They provide a wide range of clothing at a discounted price that appeals to a large portion of the demographic living downtown and in the surrounding area. Let's hope that Old Navy would bite as this might make it easier to attract some other clothing retailers to the area.

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PostJun 23, 2011#508

^ I agree. Of course I would never shop there because I fly to NYC, occasionally AMS, to shop at Gucci, Armani and Prada. After all, I AM The Count.

But I talk to a lot of downtown dwellers and nobody is willing to hand over big bucks to boutique stores downtown. Everybody wants to see stores like Old Navy, GAP or even a little higher end like Banana Republic. We definitely need national retailers downtown. It's all about building a critical mass. Eventually boutique stores will do fine downtown. We're just not there yet.

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PostJun 28, 2011#509

I fully agree with the above statement.

I would love to see an Old Navy downtown! I personally think this is a perfect fit to bring back other retailers downtown! I would love to see more boutique stores pop up but I think we need to get a medium-sized "bang" like an ON to get the process rolling. I'm sure adding this will also help Macy's get more customers too.

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PostJul 23, 2011#510

Roger Wyoming wrote:5/3 Bank branch to open on the ground floor

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PostJul 26, 2011#511

I completely agree that we need to get these types of stores in the downtown area, perferably around Macy's. I think that STL needs to pitch to several stores, like a banana republic, a centralized shopping location. If they could get several companies to move into ground level locations, it would give people a reason to make the trip downtown to shop. I don't think Macy's has enough of a draw to create that, especially with the younger crowd. But it could provide the centralized location. Even the boutique stores are too scattered and inconvient to consider a shopping trip downtown.

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PostSep 04, 2025#512

Alterra Worldwide to buy St. Louis' Syndicate Trust building - stltoday.com

Looks like Alterra already is solidifying more plans for Downtown even before they've finished Jefferson Arms! From the article, it looks like they're planning to add more retail in the building and make the residential part entirely condominiums instead of the current mix of condos and apartments. An exact timeline has not been released yet. The more retail, especially in this area of Downtown, the better I say. Personally, I also like the idea of adding more condos in the core of DT, but I know that's not for everyone. I wonder what happens to the apartment renters in the building. Do they just get kicked out once their leases are up? Are they given an option to buy back their dwelling as a condo?

This news does come as a bit of a surprise. I thought Alterra was looking to go after Muni Courts in the immediate future, and I think I also read something about them considering Railway Exchange. Anyway, this seems to be good news. Look forward to hearing more!

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PostSep 04, 2025#513

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/bus ... -top-story

Alterra Worldwide, the developer behind Jefferson Arms, is under contract to buy the Syndicate Building at 915 Olive St.

The building currently has a mix of condominiums and apartments with ground floor retail. Alterra wants to turn the apartments into condos and expand the retail space.

There is no timeline or financial details on the project yet.

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PostSep 04, 2025#514

Auggie wrote: ↑
Sep 04, 2025
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/bus ... -top-story

Alterra Worldwide, the developer behind Jefferson Arms, is under contract to buy the Syndicate Building at 915 Olive St.

The building currently has a mix of condominiums and apartments with ground floor retail. Alterra wants to turn the apartments into condos and expand the retail space.

There is no timeline or financial details on the project yet.
Auggie, look at the post right above yours 😂
Looks like we were thinking alike!

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PostSep 04, 2025#515

I'm also concerned about what will happen to the tenants that are staying there, though I do think more condos is good considering developers basically haven't built any since 2008 (some change in the tax code or something?). Ideally, they'd be allowed to rent as long as they'd like and when they move their unit would be converted to condo, though I don't have high expectations that Alterra would be so kind. 

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PostSep 04, 2025#516

Ragtimer wrote: ↑
Sep 04, 2025
Auggie wrote: ↑
Sep 04, 2025
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/bus ... -top-story

Alterra Worldwide, the developer behind Jefferson Arms, is under contract to buy the Syndicate Building at 915 Olive St.

The building currently has a mix of condominiums and apartments with ground floor retail. Alterra wants to turn the apartments into condos and expand the retail space.

There is no timeline or financial details on the project yet.
Auggie, look at the post right above yours 😂
Looks like we were thinking alike!
Lol! 6 minutes apart, I must have taken too long to type it up.

I like adding more condos downtown. I can see myself buying one someday in the far future when I am ready for that type of commitment, and this is a great building. Ideally, if the renters are just displaced, there is ample availability throughout downtown for them to move to, though I understand it's not ideal.

I am not sure how much I trust Alterra yet, I wanna see how Jefferson Arms turns out, but this type of a renovation seems like much less of a burden than Jefferson Arms or Municipal Courts, so that's probably a factor too.

As for retail, it's worth noting that the old Fifth Third Bank has been vacant for years, since at least 2016 and that was the only tenant from 2011-2016 that this space has ever seen in this iteration of the building. It's apparently been near impossible to fill the space, so I don't know if more retail is going to change much. But I'm not an expert. I'd be delighted for something like a TJ Maxx or Burlington to go in, just don't have much faith in that.

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PostSep 05, 2025#517

Auggie wrote: ↑
Sep 04, 2025
Ragtimer wrote: ↑
Sep 04, 2025
Auggie wrote: ↑
Sep 04, 2025
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/bus ... -top-story

Alterra Worldwide, the developer behind Jefferson Arms, is under contract to buy the Syndicate Building at 915 Olive St.

The building currently has a mix of condominiums and apartments with ground floor retail. Alterra wants to turn the apartments into condos and expand the retail space.

There is no timeline or financial details on the project yet.
Auggie, look at the post right above yours 😂
Looks like we were thinking alike!
Lol! 6 minutes apart, I must have taken too long to type it up.

I like adding more condos downtown. I can see myself buying one someday in the far future when I am ready for that type of commitment, and this is a great building. Ideally, if the renters are just displaced, there is ample availability throughout downtown for them to move to, though I understand it's not ideal.

I am not sure how much I trust Alterra yet, I wanna see how Jefferson Arms turns out, but this type of a renovation seems like much less of a burden than Jefferson Arms or Municipal Courts, so that's probably a factor too.

As for retail, it's worth noting that the old Fifth Third Bank has been vacant for years, since at least 2016 and that was the only tenant from 2011-2016 that this space has ever seen in this iteration of the building. It's apparently been near impossible to fill the space, so I don't know if more retail is going to change much. But I'm not an expert. I'd be delighted for something like a TJ Maxx or Burlington to go in, just don't have much faith in that.
Yeah, I really like the idea of adding more condos too. I think it might attract more permanent residents to Downtown which is really important for the city as a whole. While PeterXCV's idea regarding the displaced renters would definitely the "nicest" way for Alterra to go, I also kind of doubt they would want to wait for all these people in the building to move out on their own. You're right, between all the existing apartment buildings downtown and new ones coming up like Jefferson Arms, AHM, and Millenium, the renters should be able to find another home close by. I just hope that they don't decide to leave the area after they get evicted.

It seems to me like they're doing good work on Jefferson Arms from what I've heard, but the real test will be after it opens of course. Syndicate definitely doesn't seem as involved of a project as Jefferson Arms is since I think Jeff Arms was pretty much a complete redevelopment from the inside-out. I'd be curious to hear from any current residents of the Syndicate about what sort of condition it's in.

That's unfortunate to hear about the bank space being vacant for so long. I wonder if Alterra plans to split it up into smaller spaces to make it more appealing to stores with smaller footprints. IMO, Downtown does need a larger department-store-ish thing to serve residents, especially since developers are envisioning a residential future for the area. If they can get some popular retail spaces in this building, it will really help to activate the street around it. 

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