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https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... wsuit.html

ArchCity Defenders are also suing the state over the police takeover; citing the unfunded mandate that Green's lawsuit also cites, but also the use of a "special law" that "regulates the affairs" of the city in an unlawful way.

Good!

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18sciJ3kF3/

lol Facebook news. Talk about on brand

JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑

Jun 07, 2025

lol Facebook news. Talk about on brand

Car brains just can't think beyond police enforcement and wildly clap their fins together when they read things on facebook about police enforcement.

I think you guys are over reacting. You’re right that strictly pushing police enforcement isn’t the best solution to many of our car related issues, but this specific instance requires a police response.

I’m not overreacting to anything. The board Karen posted a FB article. It doesn’t get more on-brand than that

jFC

KSDK - Victim stopped to let drivers merge before he was gunned down in apparent road rage shooting, godfather says

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime ... e250d8fe42

I'm sure all the usual suspects will treat this with the same scrutiny and concern that they treat with anything on MetroLink.

JaneJacobsGhost wrote:I’m not overreacting to anything. The board Karen posted a FB article. It doesn’t get more on-brand than that

I mean it was an official police communication. Who cares where it was found?

Auggie why do you support a**holes who terrorize our streets?

Is it white guilt?

These street car racers have been hooking up via social media for years; it would not seem that difficult to 'infiltrate;' their media groups and know the who where and when of these street 'events' Possibly they are infiltrating these groups.  I will leave who the 'they' are to more savvy sleuths 

chris fuller wrote: ↑

Jun 08, 2025

These street car racers have been hooking up via social media for years; it would not seem that difficult to 'infiltrate;' their media groups and know the who where and when of these street 'events' Possibly they are infiltrating these groups.  I will leave who the 'they' are to more savvy sleuths 

Exactly! These folks have been terrorizing our streets for years. Weird thst some on here who call themselves "urbanists" side with them over enforcement.

Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑

Jun 08, 2025

chris fuller wrote: ↑

Jun 08, 2025

These street car racers have been hooking up via social media for years; it would not seem that difficult to 'infiltrate;' their media groups and know the who where and when of these street 'events' Possibly they are infiltrating these groups.  I will leave who the 'they' are to more savvy sleuths 

Exactly! These folks have been terrorizing our streets for years. Weirs thst some on here who call themselves "urbanists" side with them over enforcement.

Because "enforcement" doesn't actually solve the problem. It chops off a branch of a tree at best. The problem to a white, probably middle class, sheltered person like you is the cars. Because that's as far as your brain can comprehend. But the problem starts at socialization which is heavily influenced by economic status, and police enforcement literally does nothing about those seed-problems that sprout into things like reckless driving and whatever it is you call what these people were doing.

My problem isn't with the police breaking up these groups, my problem is that you slap your fins together at "DUHHH POLICE ENFORCEMENT" because to you the problem is being "solved" when in reality, it will just pop up again in a couple of weeks somewhere else because none of the underlying problems have been solved or even looked at. Hence why this has been going on for decades.

Your view of the situation is so rudimentary, it's beyond hilarious that you have the audacity to call me an "insufferable child" but you see police enforcement so you slap your fins together because that's what people who think like you do.

But what is the end to this theory of police enforcement? Should the police arrest all these people? Should they be imprisoned? Is mass incarceration your answer? Should all their cars be impounded? Should the city/police be exerting resources towards an operation like that? What if that incentivizes them to steal cars? What is the plan to turn these people into productive citizens? These are the questions that actually matter and the things that need to be answered, but haven't been for the last 50+ years. And I promise you, as someone who a strong supporter of the police, the police are not equipped to answer any of these questions. And without these questions answered, the crime/car meetups will keep happening because nothing was actually solved, like you seem to think.

^yep. An insufferable child.  Calling working people "sheltered" from your parents basement in St. Louis Hills is pretty rich, so to speak.

Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑

Jun 08, 2025

As has been noted these offenders have been coordinating these events that make our streets less safe for pedestrians, cyclists and other drivers for years.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that if these events are broken up by law enforcement on a regular basis the organizers will go elsewhere.

St. Louis City has been a playground for these car brained criminals for years. They have NO respect for our city, urban residents, pedestrians or cyclists. So damn straight I'm going to applaud a new strategy of making our city less attractive for their shenanigans.

It's like you're trying to prove how little you actually understand about anything. This *isn't* a new strategy, it's something that police have been doing for decades and it doesn't work. And you even admit that all it does is move the problem elsewhere, doesn't actually fix anything. And then you start making statements like "these people aren't poor" as if you somehow know them or something. It's so obvious that you have no clue what you're talking about.

You are, as normal, just projecting, like you always do. But keep slapping your fins.

In KC last a month an innocent woman was hit by a stunt rider..

So yeah that's why I "clap my fins" when I see efforts to curtail this dangerous motor vehicle behavior.



https://fox4kc.com/news/concern-grows-a ... west-blvd/

Yea my bad for advocating for actual solutions to get at the root causes of these types of crimes so they may be legitimately stopped, I'm sure police enforcement will work, just like it has for the last 50 years.

And it's not even like either of you make a good argument for your position. An actually good argument for your position would be to fund a drone program to track traffic and potentially follow law breakers to wherever they're going to allow police to have a much more controlled and safer interaction than a traditional traffic stop.

But neither of you have made that argument because you haven't actually put any thought into what you believe beyond that it makes you clap when you see flashing lights.

I want it completely stopped. But short of that I don't want it in the city.

Not sure why that's hard to understand.

Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑

Jun 08, 2025

I want it completely stopped. But short of that I don't want it in the city.

Not sure why that's hard to understand.

I'm not sure why it's hard to understand that police enforcement will not result in "complete stoppage". All it will result in is monthly virtue signaling from you, because you can't think beyond police enforcement and you clap your fins when you see police enforcement.