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PostMay 02, 2025#10251

The city can assess a workers quality and dismiss them or encourage them with a pay raise. If dismissed, the role can be posted with a higher salary. It's literally how the real world works and is the extent of my comment. I'm trying to figure out where exactly I paint all city employees.  The city should have higher standards and should reward those that raise the bar with a pay raise. 

You're reading my post with a hyper-sensitive eye because I've contributed to the Mayoral discussion. It's not just my perception and it's been noted by other posters who have reached out to me directly. I have been on this forum for 10 years and I have never had this type of pestering.

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PostMay 03, 2025#10252

I guess the 80k in missing cash was small beans compared to the 5 million in missing vehicles!

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PostMay 07, 2025#10253

Through April (typo in citywide overall %, should be -26%, not -51%
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PostMay 07, 2025#10254

You just love to see it.

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PostMay 07, 2025#10255

Feels good.

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PostMay 07, 2025#10256

Do we have the data before 2020? All of it’s really impressive but I think some are still looking for that “Is it back to normal?”

Homicides I know are back to normal or better than 2015-2020, right?

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PostMay 08, 2025#10257

addxb2 wrote:
May 07, 2025
Do we have the data before 2020? All of it’s really impressive but I think some are still looking for that “Is it back to normal?”

Homicides I know are back to normal or better than 2015-2020, right?
Yes and no. It’s difficult to make a direct comparison because the method of crime reporting changed significantly in 2021. Prior to that, only the most serious offense in a single incident was recorded in the data. Beginning in 2021, however, every offense within an incident is reported. As a result, comparing total crime numbers can be misleading. for example, total reported crimes in 2019 were around 27,000, while in 2024 they were over 50,000. But these figures are not directly comparable due to the change in national reporting standards.

That said, I have violent crime data going back to 1970, and both in total numbers and per capita, 2024 had the lowest levels in that 50-year span. The reason some level of comparison is still possible is that, even before 2021, violent crimes generally reflected the most severe incident—typically a homicide, aggravated assault, or similar.

it’s important to note that a pre-2021 incident involving a robbery where one person was shot and another was killed would only be recorded as a homicide, whereas post-2021 data would reflect all three offenses.

Taking that into account, I feel confident stating that violent crime in 2024 is at historic lows both in total and on a per capita basis compared to the past five decades.

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PostMay 12, 2025#10258

Triple homicides usually get a little more pub.

https://www.firstalert4.com/2025/05/09/ ... d-suspect/

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PostMay 12, 2025#10259

^A dead body on the front porch isn't enough of an exigent circumstance to go in without a search warrant?

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PostMay 12, 2025#10260

leeharveyawesome wrote:
May 12, 2025
Triple homicides usually get a little more pub.

https://www.firstalert4.com/2025/05/09/ ... d-suspect/
Usually not when it’s a domestic murder-suicide by cop

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PostMay 12, 2025#10261

dbInSouthCity wrote:
leeharveyawesome wrote:
May 12, 2025
Triple homicides usually get a little more pub.

https://www.firstalert4.com/2025/05/09/ ... d-suspect/
Usually not when it’s a domestic murder-suicide by cop
I haven’t seen anything about this being a domestic murder-suicide by cop, and this did get a ton of coverage in the local media.

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PostMay 12, 2025#10262

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... r_stltoday

This is actually a really smart and good idea by Spencer and company. I totally support it. Get back some of the money they're literally stealing.

PostMay 12, 2025#10263

Black02AltimaSE wrote:
May 12, 2025
^A dead body on the front porch isn't enough of an exigent circumstance to go in without a search warrant?
A dead body is not an exigent circumstance. An exigent circumstance is a situation where someone is reasonably at risk of serious bodily harm should the police not act swiftly. A dead body doesn't inherently indicate this.

I would, however, believe that a dead body on a porch counts as the immediate surroundings of a house, which typically would allow for a warantless search since the body is in plain view. However, there's not really any harm in acquiring a warrant just to be safe.

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PostMay 12, 2025#10264

I feel like the whole "murder rate" thing is silly in a way. STL is gonna get its numbers. I feel like this is like LeBron or Jordan or Curry or Jokic, some nights you put up 38 and some nights you put up 20. When it's all said and done, we are going to get our numbers. Maybe a up a little, maybe down a little. We'll be around our career averages and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

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PostMay 14, 2025#10265

Violent crime by City in 2024

Kansas City (state controlled police): 8,073

St.Louis, Columbia, Springfield, Cape, Joplin and St.Joseph combined: 7,516

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PostMay 16, 2025#10266

2021: 69
2025: 42-44
Reduction: 36-39% reduction.


PostMay 16, 2025#10267

If the City were introduced into the County as a municipality and consolidated SLMPD and County PD, the single agency would have a combined population of 679,077* and would report a murder rate of 23.56 per 100,000.

It’s not a great number still, but would likely pull STL out of top 10. Outside of a massive population boom, this is the only way.

* County PD only reports for unincorporated St. Louis County.

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PostMay 16, 2025#10268

addxb2 wrote:
May 16, 2025
If the City were introduced into the County as a municipality and consolidated SLMPD and County PD, the single agency would have a combined population of 679,077* and would report a murder rate of 23.56 per 100,000.

It’s not a great number still, but would likely pull STL out of top 10. Outside of a massive population boom, this is the only way.

* County PD only reports for unincorporated St. Louis County.
We should have this alone put on a constitutional amendment next chance we get! haha, but seriously

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PostMay 18, 2025#10269

There is a new book by Tom S. Clark, Adam N. Glynn, and Michael Leo Owens Deadly Force: Police Shootings in Urban America.  Here are a few of the conclusions:
   …we were more likely to obtain records [on police shootings] from cities with women mayors and more women on municipal legislatures.
    …we also found that fewer police shootings occurred in cities with more police, all else equal.
And:
    …Black and Hispanic officers are disproportionately the ones involved in police shootings.  That is particularly true when a Black civilian is the subject of the shooting.
https://a.co/d/hqUMLht

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PostMay 18, 2025#10270

Four homicides. One house.


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PostMay 18, 2025#10271

Firearms and drugs found in the house. Seems eerily similar to the multiple murder suicide in North STL a couple weeks ago. Like that one it's highly unlikely this was random but man these multiple murders are tough to take even as our total homicides are down.

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PostMay 19, 2025#10272

These last multiple murders in the same house are tragic but I hope at least those deaths are gang members and not just addicts or innocent bystanders

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PostMay 19, 2025#10273

Rick Prieto wrote:
May 19, 2025
These last multiple murders in the same house are tragic but I hope at least those deaths are gang members and not just addicts or innocent bystanders
They're all humans

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PostMay 24, 2025#10274

This terrorist gang activity has to stop! Send them to El Salvador! Or maybe these bored suburban kids can do some tornado cleanup.

KSDK - Wildwood father warns others after home vandalized in ‘organized’ teen tradition: ‘They came back at 2 a.m. and destroyed it’

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... 7ea5eea29a

PostMay 25, 2025#10275

Mostly non-city residents, smh.

StlToday - 4 charged with stealing utility wire from tornado-damaged homes in St. Louis

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 2f7a4.html

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