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PostApr 14, 2025#6626

https://documents.house.mo.gov/billtrac ... 0H.02P.pdf

Bill is making its way through mo legislature to establish an entertainment district in downtown STL. Main component is funding from the state to hiring off duty officers to patrol and the ability to ban unaccompanied minors from the district after certain hours

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Status of a couple downtown projects
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PostApr 14, 2025#6628

Positive piece from Eric Schmid at STL NPR echoing a lot of the new optimism I am seeing.

https://www.stlpr.org/economy-business/ ... ps-vacancy

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PostApr 14, 2025#6629

For a second there, I thought you were saying that Missouri senator Eric Schmitt had something nice to say about downtown St. Louis. 

Then I noticed what you actually said and it made a lot, lot more sense. 

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PostApr 14, 2025#6630

Jallen26 wrote:
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Positive piece from Eric Schmid at STL NPR echoing a lot of the new optimism I am seeing.

https://www.stlpr.org/economy-business/ ... ps-vacancy
Really solid work from Eric on this. As I told him, and as a few people noted in the article, downtown STL has a lot of major destinations that draw millions of visitors each year: the Arch, BPV, Union Station, CityPark, Enterprise Center, City Museum, the Dome/convention center, etc. But the problem is that the connections between these spots aren’t as seamless or intuitive as they should be. Getting from one to the other on foot or bike often feels disconnected or uninviting, and that limits the potential of downtown as a whole.
There are two things that need to happen to fix that, and one is already in motion: better infrastructure. The 7th Street improvements connecting Wash Ave to BPV are a great start. Wash Ave and 4th Street are next, and the Brickline Greenway from the Arch to Compton is another piece of the puzzle. But infrastructure alone isn’t enough—those routes need to be activated with restaurants, bars, shops, and things to do along the way.

We just saw $1.8 billion spent in downtown in 2024, 5 times more than Clayton and $100m more than entire city of Chesterfield. That number could grow a lot more if people felt there were more options and reasons to linger and explore beyond just their destination.

Also worth watching: there’s a bill in the state legislature that hasn’t gotten much local attention yet, but it would create an “entertainment district” that covers downtown. It comes with $2.5 million/year in state funding for off-duty police patrols. One detail that might be controversial, it may also allow the district to prohibit minors from being there without adult supervision after certain hours.
Right now, we’ve got SLMPD, federal park rangers, federal reserve police, SLU police, GSL ambassadors, CID safety staff, and Union Station and BPV all have private security—all operating downtown, but mostly in silos. There’s manpower, but no unified strategy. If this new district just adds another layer without coordinating what’s already there, it’s hard to see how it helps much.

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PostApr 14, 2025#6631

Curfews for unaccompanied children is not controversial imo. City sidewalks and parks are not after hours daycare centers.

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PostApr 14, 2025#6632

Teens with their parents aren’t the problem it’s teens without their parents are the problem. Curfew on minors should always be enforced. All that being said great right up & I hope nothing for the best for our downtown we all deserve a good healthy vibrant city center


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PostApr 14, 2025#6633

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Apr 14, 2025
Jallen26 wrote:
Apr 14, 2025
Positive piece from Eric Schmid at STL NPR echoing a lot of the new optimism I am seeing.

https://www.stlpr.org/economy-business/ ... ps-vacancy
Really solid work from Eric on this. As I told him, and as a few people noted in the article, downtown STL has a lot of major destinations that draw millions of visitors each year: the Arch, BPV, Union Station, CityPark, Enterprise Center, City Museum, the Dome/convention center, etc. But the problem is that the connections between these spots aren’t as seamless or intuitive as they should be. Getting from one to the other on foot or bike often feels disconnected or uninviting, and that limits the potential of downtown as a whole.
There are two things that need to happen to fix that, and one is already in motion: better infrastructure. The 7th Street improvements connecting Wash Ave to BPV are a great start. Wash Ave and 4th Street are next, and the Brickline Greenway from the Arch to Compton is another piece of the puzzle. But infrastructure alone isn’t enough—those routes need to be activated with restaurants, bars, shops, and things to do along the way.

We just saw $1.8 billion spent in downtown in 2024, 5 times more than Clayton and $100m more than entire city of Chesterfield. That number could grow a lot more if people felt there were more options and reasons to linger and explore beyond just their destination.

Also worth watching: there’s a bill in the state legislature that hasn’t gotten much local attention yet, but it would create an “entertainment district” that covers downtown. It comes with $2.5 million/year in state funding for off-duty police patrols. One detail that might be controversial, it may also allow the district to prohibit minors from being there without adult supervision after certain hours.
Right now, we’ve got SLMPD, federal park rangers, federal reserve police, SLU police, GSL ambassadors, CID safety staff, and Union Station and BPV all have private security—all operating downtown, but mostly in silos. There’s manpower, but no unified strategy. If this new district just adds another layer without coordinating what’s already there, it’s hard to see how it helps much.
Reinstating downtown trolley at least during Summer and late Fall would also help connect these destinations seamlessly - it is a no-brainer.

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PostApr 14, 2025#6634

I agree that the MetroBus downtown circulator should come back, but my only worry would be funding for it. Not exactly sure how much it would cost per year to run it during the spring, summer, and fall and maybe during high demand days in the winter.

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PostApr 14, 2025#6635

Jallen26 wrote:
Apr 14, 2025
Positive piece from Eric Schmid at STL NPR echoing a lot of the new optimism I am seeing.

https://www.stlpr.org/economy-business/ ... ps-vacancy
Interesting to see 63101 spending go down so dramatically. I imagine much of that is the dome with no rams?  Anyways, would love to see that start growing again. 

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PostApr 14, 2025#6636

The state paying $2.5 million per year for additional Downtown security? Sounds great!

What are the actual boundaries of the proposed district? 

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PostApr 15, 2025#6637

framer wrote:
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The state paying $2.5 million per year for additional Downtown security? Sounds great!

What are the actual boundaries of the proposed district? 
Yes, sounds great. But I'm from Missourah, so you gotta show me before I'll believe it. Especially when the MO General Assembly is involved.

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PostApr 15, 2025#6638

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... tower.html

AT&T sells it's downtown tower 1010 Pine for $19.4 million as part of a sell off of real estate.

They said they they will lease back only space that they use.

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PostApr 15, 2025#6639

With a profit sharing agreement with the new owner for future redevelopment. Probably not a great sign for AT&T's presence long term downtown

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PostApr 15, 2025#6640

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
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With a profit sharing agreement with the new owner for future redevelopment. Probably not a great sign for AT&T's presence long term downtown
Idk. They said that St. Louis is one of their core office markets last year. I'm not really worried about them leaving all-together, I would agree there's some worry about how many employees they'll keep based here though.

PostApr 16, 2025#6641

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... ntown.html

Law firm Baker Sterchi Cowden & Rice to move from it's office at 100 N Broadway to the Deloitte Building at 100 S 4th Street.

They will lease 22,800 square feet of space, a slight increase from their current 22,000 square feet.

The building's owners say their recent addition of nearly 73,000 sf of office leases is in part because of amenity additions, such as a fitness center, a 100 person conference facility, a tenant lounge, and grab and go food options.

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PostApr 16, 2025#6642

This is a nice W for downtown.

BSCR could have easily found a space to meet its needs Clayton.

Good evidence that DT’s biggest problem with retaining office tenants isn’t crime but rather older office buildings which lack amenities and attached parking garages

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PostApr 16, 2025#6643

Bloomberg - Trump Signs Executive Orders on Federal Purchasing, Office Space
President Donald Trump has signed orders overhauling where and how the federal government spends taxpayer money, encouraging agencies to move out of downtown districts
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... fice-space

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PostApr 17, 2025#6644

And what if downtown in any given city is the best bang for ones govt dollar?  Regarding St. Louis Ok leave the downtown or don't locate downtown Is a better alternative Bel-Nor or Edmunson  MO ? Or is Ladue a more acceptable location?

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PostApr 17, 2025#6645

Was gonna say, downtown STL *is* the cheapest office market😂😂😂

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PostApr 17, 2025#6646

BPV has a revamped garden bar
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PostApr 17, 2025#6647

dbInSouthCity wrote:
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BPV has a revamped garden bar
that is a surprise. wasn't there a beer garden earlier? 

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PostApr 17, 2025#6648

Yes, looks like the replaced the giant Connect 4 and cornhole with bottomless mimosa style seating

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PostApr 17, 2025#6649

I think I preferred the AB branded garden but it wasn’t quite executed all the way out, though Inlvoe the mural so that better stay. We need a true beer garden/brewery in the heart of downtown or outpost of AB that is well thought out.

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PostApr 17, 2025#6650

Saw this article in the Biz Journal. I assume the US Bank Tower is going to undergo a big renovation. Anyone have the scoop on this. I apologize if this was posted in another thread. 

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... 4&empos=p4

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