I think crime isn’t actually the reason, even in part, as we have speculated on this forum. It’s mostly law firms who want to be in an up town setting closer to their homes in the Western Suburbs. The change wouldn’t change crime perception in the city locally anyway. Its impact is in the national perception.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:Clayton office towers are filling up with former DT firms in part due to fears of crime in the city. It tangibly benefits the county for the city to have a negative crime reputation
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This is an interesting view since downtown is still the primary regional hub for our law firms. Clayton has most of the banks and multiple F500 companies.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Mar 12, 2025I think crime isn’t actually the reason, even in part, as we have speculated on this forum. It’s mostly law firms who want to be in an up town setting closer to their homes in the Western Suburbs. The change wouldn’t change crime perception in the city locally anyway. Its impact is in the national perception.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:Clayton office towers are filling up with former DT firms in part due to fears of crime in the city. It tangibly benefits the county for the city to have a negative crime reputation
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I know that, but a lot of the movement to Clayton in recent years that JJG is referring to has been law firms and businesses like that.Auggie wrote:This is an interesting view since downtown is still the primary regional hub for our law firms. Clayton has most of the banks and multiple F500 companies.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Mar 12, 2025I think crime isn’t actually the reason, even in part, as we have speculated on this forum. It’s mostly law firms who want to be in an up town setting closer to their homes in the Western Suburbs. The change wouldn’t change crime perception in the city locally anyway. Its impact is in the national perception.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:Clayton office towers are filling up with former DT firms in part due to fears of crime in the city. It tangibly benefits the county for the city to have a negative crime reputation
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I don't really see how unified reporting would change the perception of safe Clayton, as the law firms moving from downtown to Clayton aren't the out of town firms who can't tell the difference between Pine Lawn and Forest Park, but local firms for whom no amount of good press would move the needle. I don't think I see a downside for the county here, but . . . the lawyers in Clayton probably couldn't see an upside if it hit them in the face.
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Friendly reminder that if you need to get away with heinous crimes, just become a cop.
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime ... c0857d0cdf
This is the kind of soft on crime effort you get when you allow the GOP to pick your prosecutor who btw f**** her subordinates.
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime ... c0857d0cdf
This is the kind of soft on crime effort you get when you allow the GOP to pick your prosecutor who btw f**** her subordinates.
Anyone know why the City’s homicide tally went up to 19? I’m not seeing any stories other than the intruder stabbing in Academy. If that’s the cause, it’s likely justified and will be dropped.
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There was also a murder yesterday in Walnut Park West.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:Anyone know why the City’s homicide tally went up to 19? I’m not seeing any stories other than the intruder stabbing in Academy. If that’s the cause, it’s likely justified and will be dropped.
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True. Although that criminal’s connections to a former Democratic Prosecutor probably helped more than anything.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:Friendly reminder that if you need to get away with heinous crimes, just become a cop.
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime ... c0857d0cdf
This is the kind of soft on crime effort you get when you allow the GOP to pick your prosecutors who btw f**** her subordinates.
SMH
KTVI - Woman shot inside hotel lobby in St. Charles
https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/polic ... t-charles/
KTVI - Woman shot inside hotel lobby in St. Charles
https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/polic ... t-charles/
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I mean, he’s a cop. He’s testifying all the time (assuming he actually arrests people and doesn’t spend all day playing candy crush in a squad car hiding behind a big box store). He has relationships with all of the prosecutors.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Mar 28, 2025True. Although that criminal’s connections to a former Democratic Prosecutor probably helped more than anything.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:Friendly reminder that if you need to get away with heinous crimes, just become a cop.
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime ... c0857d0cdf
This is the kind of soft on crime effort you get when you allow the GOP to pick your prosecutors who btw f**** her subordinates.
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Sure. I am just saying the primary reason he got a good deal is that he’s Bob Mculloch’s kid.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:I mean, he’s a cop. He’s testifying all the time (assuming he actually arrests people and doesn’t spend all day playing candy crush in a squad car hiding behind a big box store). He has relationships with all of the prosecutors.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Mar 28, 2025True. Although that criminal’s connections to a former Democratic Prosecutor probably helped more than anything.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:Friendly reminder that if you need to get away with heinous crimes, just become a cop.
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime ... c0857d0cdf
This is the kind of soft on crime effort you get when you allow the GOP to pick your prosecutors who btw f**** her subordinates.
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Had a rough couple days around here in shootings. I’m sure the new state board will save the day
In all seriousness, it was a rough stretch this week
In all seriousness, it was a rough stretch this week
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After 3 months, the 23 homicides is the lowest for Q1 since 2003 and -41% vs last year and -34% over a 10 year Q1 average. Rest of Q1 crime data will be out later this week or early next week.
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I'm hopeful this last week is one-off in crime for 2025, 1Q is still very good but based on the rest of the year so far.
Gotta love the DB's Reddit post on this. Tons of people just casually moving the goal posts without even realizing that crime is down pretty big across the board.
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They always do that. One of the first posts you can always expect to read deals with population loss. Something like, "Is there anyone else left to kill?" usually appears.
The "per capita" clowns also always get me as if the per capita rate isn't going down too.RockChalkSTL wrote: ↑Mar 31, 2025They always do that. One of the first posts you can always expect to read deals with population loss. Something like, "Is there anyone else left to kill?" usually appears.
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Basic statistical analysis escapes most people. Then you throw in the numbers are fake conspiracy on top of that.
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It's Reddit. What do you expect?Auggie wrote: ↑Mar 31, 2025Gotta love the DB's Reddit post on this. Tons of people just casually moving the goal posts without even realizing that crime is down pretty big across the board.
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When you use per capita to make St. Louis look too good, folks (including St Louisans) say we’re cheating. (St Louis City sells more major league sports tickets per capita than any city in North America. St Louis has more skyscrapers per capita than Chicago.) But what is really frustrating is when articles cheat the other way. I asked AI for a ranking of metro areas for crime. It replied with a list of highest city crime, not metro areas. Because metro rank didn’t follow conventional wisdom. And when I saw a ranking of cities with most restaurants to per capita, I was surprised St Louis didn’t make the list at all. But when you read their methodology, they say they use metro areas per capita, not cities in spite of the title. Sheesh.
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^STL needs a good PR department.
So many things that need attention...




