Seems a desperate move. Cara Spencer isn’t a MAGAt
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As much as I am skeptical about Cara Spencer being the right person for St. Louis going forward, I think she's got this election in the bag.
I hope she can deliver in big ways for St. Louis and prove me wrong.
I hope she can deliver in big ways for St. Louis and prove me wrong.
Jones’ campaign e-blasts fake website in attempt to link opponent to Trump
https://www.stlmag.com/news/jones-campa ... ure-trump/
https://www.stlmag.com/news/jones-campa ... ure-trump/
Edit: this was in response to JJG’s now deleted post.Debaliviere91 wrote:This is incorrect and it’s not fair game at all.
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Mostly likely scenario here is that either butler or Spencer camps set up this site as bait for Jones camp and they bit hardRockChalkSTL wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025Jones’ campaign e-blasts fake website in attempt to link opponent to Trump
https://www.stlmag.com/news/jones-campa ... ure-trump/
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You didn’t let me correct my postDebaliviere91 wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025Edit: this was in response to JJG’s now deleted post.Debaliviere91 wrote:This is incorrect and it’s not fair game at all.
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I don’t have any control over corrections of your post.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:You didn’t let me correct my postDebaliviere91 wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025Edit: this was in response to JJG’s now deleted post.Debaliviere91 wrote:This is incorrect and it’s not fair game at all.
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A Brighter Future PAC is funded by local businessman Louis Cella. He is a Trump supporter. There was discussion that he may be in position for a cabinet post.
So just because the website is fake, the attack has a factual basis and is indeed fair game.
So just because the website is fake, the attack has a factual basis and is indeed fair game.
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That’s a ridiculous distortion of what’s actually played out here.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:A Brighter Future PAC is funded by local businessman Louis Cella. He is a Trump supporter. There was discussion that he may be in position for a cabinet post.
So just because the website is fake, the attack has a factual basis and is indeed fair game.
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The Jones campaign should not have directed people to a bogus website that made factual claims about Spencer’s funding. I agree. Actual journalists like the PD should raise the question of Spencer’s funding but the PD is going to endorse Spencer.
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If we are going to attempt to tie Spencer to MAGA based on the political leanings of some of donors, let’s have it both ways.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:The Jones campaign should not have directed people to a bogus website that made factual claims about Spencer’s funding. I agree. Actual journalists like the PD should raise the question of Spencer’s funding but the PD is going to endorse Spencer.
Jone’s list of donors isn’t squeaky clean either. I don’t hold that against Jones anymore than I do Spencer.
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Look into these for starters:JaneJacobsGhost wrote:Who do you not like on Jones’ donor list?
Enterprise Holdings
Steven Miltenberger
Strategic Capitol Consulting
Missouri Growth PAC
What a silly waste of time and headache, for both candidates. Jones should hope the media let this story die.
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The Taylor’s are heavily invested in the city. They employ people in the city. They actually have skin in the game.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025Look into these for starters:JaneJacobsGhost wrote:Who do you not like on Jones’ donor list?
Enterprise Holdings
Steven Miltenberger
Strategic Capitol Consulting
Missouri Growth PAC
I don’t like Miktenberger either but that’s pretty small potatoes.
Whose money is behind the other PACs?
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But like 80% of Enterprise Holdings political donations are to Republicans. Thats ok if they invest in the city?JaneJacobsGhost wrote:The Taylor’s are heavily invested in the city. They employ people in the city. They actually have skin in the game.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025Look into these for starters:JaneJacobsGhost wrote:Who do you not like on Jones’ donor list?
Enterprise Holdings
Steven Miltenberger
Strategic Capitol Consulting
Missouri Growth PAC
I don’t like Miktenberger either but that’s pretty small potatoes.
Whose money is behind the other PACs?
Miltenberger donated $5K. I don’t know what the monetary cutoff is where it’s ok for you to brush aside, but that feels awfully ideologically convenient for you.
Those other two PACs are connected to former GOP House Leader Steve Tilley. Remember him? Those PACs have spent a lot of money propping up MAGA politicians.
Let’s be consistent here.
$5k is, in fact, smaller than $111kDebaliviere91 wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025But like 80% of Enterprise Holdings political donations are to Republicans. Thats ok if they invest in the city?JaneJacobsGhost wrote:The Taylor’s are heavily invested in the city. They employ people in the city. They actually have skin in the game.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025Look into these for starters:
Enterprise Holdings
Steven Miltenberger
Strategic Capitol Consulting
Missouri Growth PAC
I don’t like Miktenberger either but that’s pretty small potatoes.
Whose money is behind the other PACs?
Miltenberger donated $5K. I don’t know what the monetary cutoff is where it’s ok for you to brush aside, but that feels awfully ideologically convenient for you.
Those other two PACs are connected to former GOP House Leader Steve Tilley. Remember him? Those PACs have spent a lot of money propping up MAGA politicians.
Let’s be consistent here.
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Which is why I asked what is the $ cutoff for when it’s acceptable to take donations from bad people? Apparently it’s somewhere between $5K and $111K, which is ideologically convenient.Auggie wrote:$5k is, in fact, smaller than $111kDebaliviere91 wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025But like 80% of Enterprise Holdings political donations are to Republicans. Thats ok if they invest in the city?JaneJacobsGhost wrote: The Taylor’s are heavily invested in the city. They employ people in the city. They actually have skin in the game.
I don’t like Miktenberger either but that’s pretty small potatoes.
Whose money is behind the other PACs?
Miltenberger donated $5K. I don’t know what the monetary cutoff is where it’s ok for you to brush aside, but that feels awfully ideologically convenient for you.
Those other two PACs are connected to former GOP House Leader Steve Tilley. Remember him? Those PACs have spent a lot of money propping up MAGA politicians.
Let’s be consistent here.
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How about the $600k fundraiser that Clark held out at Clayco's offices in North County? Where the average attendee donated $3,000?Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025Which is why I asked what is the $ cutoff for when it’s acceptable to take donations from bad people? Apparently it’s somewhere between $5K and $111K, which is ideologically convenient.Auggie wrote:$5k is, in fact, smaller than $111kDebaliviere91 wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025But like 80% of Enterprise Holdings political donations are to Republicans. Thats ok if they invest in the city?
Miltenberger donated $5K. I don’t know what the monetary cutoff is where it’s ok for you to brush aside, but that feels awfully ideologically convenient for you.
Those other two PACs are connected to former GOP House Leader Steve Tilley. Remember him? Those PACs have spent a lot of money propping up MAGA politicians.
Let’s be consistent here.
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Gotta do some mental gymnastics to equate a billionaire who intentionally created bad news for the city for political gain to some dude that the average person has never heard of.
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Mental gymnastics is an apt description of this conversation for sure. Both sides have accepted numerous donations from MAGA affiliated or otherwise seedy characters. If it’s “disqualifying” for Spencer as JJG put it, I ask that we call it both ways.Auggie wrote:How about the $600k fundraiser that Clark held out at Clayco's offices in North County? Where the average attendee donated $3,000?Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025Which is why I asked what is the $ cutoff for when it’s acceptable to take donations from bad people? Apparently it’s somewhere between $5K and $111K, which is ideologically convenient.Auggie wrote: $5k is, in fact, smaller than $111k
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Gotta do some mental gymnastics to equate a billionaire who intentionally created bad news for the city for political gain to some dude that the average person has never heard of.
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What amount of "MAGA money" is acceptable to take and what isn't?
Is that really the discussion we want to have days before the primary?
Is that really the discussion we want to have days before the primary?
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... louis.html
Andrew Jones SLBJ interview:
-Says he would keep the Rams money in an interest account and only take off from the interest gained.
-Says he would expand on the 2030 Jobs Plan by working closer with other regional leaders.
-Says the earnings tax is "the lifeblood" of the city and that he wouldn't remove it until there's revenue to replace it.
-Says he would want a way to "claw back" mispent money from the North City grant program.
-Says he thinks Neal Richardson, the CEO of SLDC, is doing a "fantastic job" and that he would keep him on to evaluate his performance.
-Supports state control of the police.
-Says he would not seek a city-county merger, said the county had issues that he doesn't want the city dealing with.
-Says the Green Line is a "phenomenonal" idea, but that the city has more pressing issues.
-Opposes tax dollars going towards Busch Stadium or the Dome.
Andrew Jones SLBJ interview:
-Says he would keep the Rams money in an interest account and only take off from the interest gained.
-Says he would expand on the 2030 Jobs Plan by working closer with other regional leaders.
-Says the earnings tax is "the lifeblood" of the city and that he wouldn't remove it until there's revenue to replace it.
-Says he would want a way to "claw back" mispent money from the North City grant program.
-Says he thinks Neal Richardson, the CEO of SLDC, is doing a "fantastic job" and that he would keep him on to evaluate his performance.
-Supports state control of the police.
-Says he would not seek a city-county merger, said the county had issues that he doesn't want the city dealing with.
-Says the Green Line is a "phenomenonal" idea, but that the city has more pressing issues.
-Opposes tax dollars going towards Busch Stadium or the Dome.