Dude it's her ***** job to represent St. Louis nationally. There's such thing as delegation.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025I just can’t believe Jones is going to leave town tomorrow for a 3 day Mayors Conference. Surely she’ll cancel? The lack of political wisdom is stunning.
A complete layup for Spencer.
A Mayor has many jobs, many responsibilities. I don’t dispute one of her jobs is to represent us nationally.Auggie wrote:Dude it's her ***** job to represent St. Louis nationally. There's such thing as delegation.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025I just can’t believe Jones is going to leave town tomorrow for a 3 day Mayors Conference. Surely she’ll cancel? The lack of political wisdom is stunning.
A complete layup for Spencer.
Good Lord STL is actually gonna pust the best mayor it's had in decades. This city is *****.
I didn’t call anything a disaster.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:This isn’t an actual disaster. I know it’s hard for carbrained people to understand that.
Many things can be true. Travel and representing the city is a part of her job. In a city without a city manager, being an executive leader is the priority. She has more power than most Mayors to pick up the phone and demand a change in strategy.Auggie wrote:Dude it's her ***** job to represent St. Louis nationally. There's such thing as delegation.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025I just can’t believe Jones is going to leave town tomorrow for a 3 day Mayors Conference. Surely she’ll cancel? The lack of political wisdom is stunning.
A complete layup for Spencer.
Good Lord STL is actually gonna pust the best mayor it's had in decades. This city is *****.
The conditions are riskier for pedestrians than people in cars. Most roads are clear but a lot of pedestrian walkways are not.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:This isn’t an actual disaster. I know it’s hard for carbrained people to understand that.
Depends what the trip is. I’m not a Jones detractor. I’d be perfectly happy with another Jones term.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:I don’t care. This isn’t a “clear my schedule” situation.
The Jones detractors are desperate to pin something on her
"Best mayor in decades." Maybe true but, if so, you're damning her with faint praise. Krewson, Slay, Harmon, Bosley--each did one or two legitimately good things they could claim as victories, but were otherwise mediocre at best on the day-to-day running of the city.Auggie wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025Dude it's her ***** job to represent St. Louis nationally. There's such thing as delegation.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025I just can’t believe Jones is going to leave town tomorrow for a 3 day Mayors Conference. Surely she’ll cancel? The lack of political wisdom is stunning.
A complete layup for Spencer.
Good Lord STL is actually gonna pust the best mayor it's had in decades. This city is *****.
I agree that not all trips are the same.addxb2 wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025Depends what the trip is. I’m not a Jones detractor. I’d be perfectly happy with another Jones term.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:I don’t care. This isn’t a “clear my schedule” situation.
The Jones detractors are desperate to pin something on her
Meeting the President? Delegate and go.
Another Mayor’s Conference? Should skip.
Alderman called an emergency session to obliterate the Streets Director who promptly tossed her staff under the bus. At best streets staff are poorly managed or don’t respect their leader. Remember, the previous Streets Director was canned by Jones and the current was selected by Jones. Jones owns their execution of services.
If businesses are losing money. If parents are struggling to drop kids off. If mail isn’t being delivered. If trash isn’t being picked up. If fire trucks are stuck… she should be in STL.
What can Jones do about the streets that the Streets Department head cannot do?Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025A Mayor has many jobs, many responsibilities. I don’t dispute one of her jobs is to represent us nationally.Auggie wrote:Dude it's her ***** job to represent St. Louis nationally. There's such thing as delegation.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025I just can’t believe Jones is going to leave town tomorrow for a 3 day Mayors Conference. Surely she’ll cancel? The lack of political wisdom is stunning.
A complete layup for Spencer.
Good Lord STL is actually gonna pust the best mayor it's had in decades. This city is *****.
I do dispute the prioritization of that role over her responsibility to be the face of our response to this weather issue.
Voters also voted for Donald Trump. I think "the voters" have proven they are unbelievably unreliable and useless in things that matter. Especially STL Twitter voters.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025My point is, your outlook does not appear to be shared by a lot of voters. That’s why it was the wrong move politically for her to leave town. This is 101 type of stuff for a Mayor.
And I’ve never been a Jones detractor.
The streets department head is currently mired in a controversy regarding her leadership in response to the snow storm. Tishaura has be out front leading through that. That’s why the Chief Executive of the City can’t leave town right now.Auggie wrote:What can Jones do about the streets that the Streets Department head cannot do?Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025A Mayor has many jobs, many responsibilities. I don’t dispute one of her jobs is to represent us nationally.Auggie wrote: Dude it's her ***** job to represent St. Louis nationally. There's such thing as delegation.
Good Lord STL is actually gonna pust the best mayor it's had in decades. This city is *****.
I do dispute the prioritization of that role over her responsibility to be the face of our response to this weather issue.
What convinced you? Yourself? It's one of the top jobs of any elected leader to represent their jurisdiction nationally and even internationally. Not some appointed bureaucrat.Rick Prieto wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025I agree that not all trips are the same.addxb2 wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025Depends what the trip is. I’m not a Jones detractor. I’d be perfectly happy with another Jones term.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:I don’t care. This isn’t a “clear my schedule” situation.
The Jones detractors are desperate to pin something on her
Meeting the President? Delegate and go.
Another Mayor’s Conference? Should skip.
Alderman called an emergency session to obliterate the Streets Director who promptly tossed her staff under the bus. At best streets staff are poorly managed or don’t respect their leader. Remember, the previous Streets Director was canned by Jones and the current was selected by Jones. Jones owns their execution of services.
If businesses are losing money. If parents are struggling to drop kids off. If mail isn’t being delivered. If trash isn’t being picked up. If fire trucks are stuck… she should be in STL.
Some here mention that today's technology allows her to work remotely and that she's not that disconnected as it may have been the case 30 years ago. However, that same technology makes it viable as well to get what you need without actually traveling. If someone argues you don't need to be in the office to perform your duties, you can say as well you don't need to travel either.
I believe it's the mayor's responsibility to justify her trips. How does the trip help the city and its residents? Some trips may be worth it, as for example to meet executives considering the city for investment, meeting government officials to convince them about grants and some others, etc. However, I can't believe she needs go to all the trips she has gone to, those are too many. In some cases, I'm convinced there's no need for anyone to go and in other she can delegate and send someone.
Luckily pretty much none of what you said is actually happening.addxb2 wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025Depends what the trip is. I’m not a Jones detractor. I’d be perfectly happy with another Jones term.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:I don’t care. This isn’t a “clear my schedule” situation.
The Jones detractors are desperate to pin something on her
Meeting the President? Delegate and go.
Another Mayor’s Conference? Should skip.
Alderman called an emergency session to obliterate the Streets Director who promptly tossed her staff under the bus. At best streets staff are poorly managed or don’t respect their leader. Remember, the previous Streets Director was canned by Jones and the current was selected by Jones. Jones owns their execution of services.
If businesses are losing money. If parents are struggling to drop kids off. If mail isn’t being delivered. If trash isn’t being picked up. If fire trucks are stuck… she should be in STL.
SW City always votes for the conservatives.
Yes, I know. I’m saying that turn out (motivation) is going to be high in areas that historically vote for the moderate candidate. Lower elsewhere.Auggie wrote:SW City always votes for the conservatives.
Common sense convinced me. What exactly is the problem with expecting an elected official to explain to their constituents their actions? I guess you wouldn't have any issue with the mayor traveling to Cancun to an all inclusive resort to "represent St Louis" right? I'm sure there is a tourism convention or something there than can justify it in your mind.Auggie wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025What convinced you? Yourself? It's one of the top jobs of any elected leader to represent their jurisdiction nationally and even internationally. Not some appointed bureaucrat.Rick Prieto wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025I agree that not all trips are the same.addxb2 wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025Depends what the trip is. I’m not a Jones detractor. I’d be perfectly happy with another Jones term.
Meeting the President? Delegate and go.
Another Mayor’s Conference? Should skip.
Alderman called an emergency session to obliterate the Streets Director who promptly tossed her staff under the bus. At best streets staff are poorly managed or don’t respect their leader. Remember, the previous Streets Director was canned by Jones and the current was selected by Jones. Jones owns their execution of services.
If businesses are losing money. If parents are struggling to drop kids off. If mail isn’t being delivered. If trash isn’t being picked up. If fire trucks are stuck… she should be in STL.
Some here mention that today's technology allows her to work remotely and that she's not that disconnected as it may have been the case 30 years ago. However, that same technology makes it viable as well to get what you need without actually traveling. If someone argues you don't need to be in the office to perform your duties, you can say as well you don't need to travel either.
I believe it's the mayor's responsibility to justify her trips. How does the trip help the city and its residents? Some trips may be worth it, as for example to meet executives considering the city for investment, meeting government officials to convince them about grants and some others, etc. However, I can't believe she needs go to all the trips she has gone to, those are too many. In some cases, I'm convinced there's no need for anyone to go and in other she can delegate and send someone.
It's nice to see you immediately turn to creating fake scenarios that haven't happen and will never happen to justify your position.Rick Prieto wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025Common sense convinced me. What exactly is the problem with expecting an elected official to explain to their constituents their actions? I guess you wouldn't have any issue with the mayor traveling to Cancun to an all inclusive resort to "represent St Louis" right? I'm sure there is a tourism convention or something there than can justify it in your mind.Auggie wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025What convinced you? Yourself? It's one of the top jobs of any elected leader to represent their jurisdiction nationally and even internationally. Not some appointed bureaucrat.Rick Prieto wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2025I agree that not all trips are the same.
Some here mention that today's technology allows her to work remotely and that she's not that disconnected as it may have been the case 30 years ago. However, that same technology makes it viable as well to get what you need without actually traveling. If someone argues you don't need to be in the office to perform your duties, you can say as well you don't need to travel either.
I believe it's the mayor's responsibility to justify her trips. How does the trip help the city and its residents? Some trips may be worth it, as for example to meet executives considering the city for investment, meeting government officials to convince them about grants and some others, etc. However, I can't believe she needs go to all the trips she has gone to, those are too many. In some cases, I'm convinced there's no need for anyone to go and in other she can delegate and send someone.
