^ Clever. But I would still like to know if DB has received any compensation from the Jones campaign.
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Not in the past, nor now nor in the future.
My complete paid work history
Graduated from Missouri state in Dec of 2008
MODOT HQ senior transportation planner 2009-2011
City of STL zoning specialist 2011-2013
MODOT STL asset manager 2013-2017
City of STL senior traffic engineer(in charge of other modes of transportation) 2017-2018
2018-present. Contractor for DoD for various military planning work
My complete paid work history
Graduated from Missouri state in Dec of 2008
MODOT HQ senior transportation planner 2009-2011
City of STL zoning specialist 2011-2013
MODOT STL asset manager 2013-2017
City of STL senior traffic engineer(in charge of other modes of transportation) 2017-2018
2018-present. Contractor for DoD for various military planning work
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^ maybe i'm thinking of Lewis Reed... did you do work for/receive compensation from Reed at some point? (not talking about a full-time position, necessarily.)
in any case, didn't really need your full CV but i appreciate the response.
in any case, didn't really need your full CV but i appreciate the response.
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No elected official or candidate has ever paid me for anything
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I don’t really disagree with any of your points above related to her travel. But for each topic you brought up that you disagree with in the article, they also covered the counter point.dbInSouthCity wrote:There are a lot of issues and questionable things in this 10,000 word spread and one example is bunch of attempts by the author and an assortment of people, some of whom have been out of the mayor's office or city government for 10+ years to vaguely connect the travel to the various issues the city is facing or comments that other mayors probably don't travel as much, without any substantiation. There is also an implication that Jones is overstating the benefits to the city resulting from the travel by pointing out that certain agencies didn't explicitly say her meeting with them played a role in awards of grants or that original awards of grants. This completely ignores the practical reality that establishing and maintaining relationships or having an opportunity to "plead your case" outside of what is in a grant application, often plays a significant role, and no agency is going to admit that on the record.
Another example is how the article mentions that she traveled significantly more than her predecessors, specifically Krewson, Slay, and Bosley. Bosley was mayor from 1993–1997 and Slay from 2001–2017. Bosley mentions in the article that he didn't travel much because he didn't want to spend too much time out of the city. That makes perfect sense considering the ability to stay meaningfully connected while away in the 1990s was practically non-existent, and the same could be said for the majority of Slay's term. During the latter half of Slay's term and Krewson's term (2017–2021), they may have had an ability to work remotely, but it wasn't nearly as common as it is now, and who knows if the city even had the capabilities for it, considering how the federal government and many companies and firms did not have fully built-out remote capabilities until the pandemic.
The article doesn't include any context about those mayors’ ability to productively work remotely, which makes those comparisons unhelpful, other than as support for the implicit narrative woven throughout that the amount of travel is weird/excessive/unnecessary. It would have been more useful and would have helped to better contextualize her travel if her travel was compared to that of the Kansas City mayor or another mayor of a similar city, like Baltimore or Minneapolis, during this same post-2020 timeframe.
These types of articles with clickbait headlines that either lack a genuine effort to place events or issues in a useful context and/or are driven by the ideology of the author or the publication don't do anything to further a substantive critique and instead just give bad faith actors and/or opponents a one-liner to criticize her with that becomes a part of the public consciousness whether it is accurate or not.
Good investigative journalism is incredibly important to empower citizens to assess the performance of elected officials and hold them accountable. STLPR, Ryan Krull/Sarah Fenske at STL Magazine, and other former RFT journalists do a great job of producing journalism that informs and is conducive to productive discourse and assessments of an official's performance/record. This piece by the managing editor just isn't that and if the managing editor is producing this clearly agenda driven piece, there is little faith in anything the subordinates produce in relation to Mayor Jones and City Gov.
For example:
They wrote about how she travels more than our previous Mayors but also called out why they aren’t a true baseline for travel by a Mayor.
They didn’t just vaguely connect her travel to various issues the city is facing. They represented both sides of that debate with a viewpoint that she would be better served spending more time in St Louis to address those issues, while also acknowledging she’s more capable at handling her day job while abroad due to modern tech.
They also didn’t just say she was embellishing the returns for our city from her travel. They spoke about instance where her travel likely lead to positive impacts on our city and they also spoke about instances where the results are perhaps less apparent. That feels fair to me. Fine if you disagree with that assessment, but they represented both sides of that debate.
Lastly, I agree I would like to see additional perspectives besides those from people like Rainford who haven’t been in our government for a few years. They asked for quotes from folks tied to the current administration and they declined.
Like I said earlier, I felt I got a better understanding as a voter of Tishaura’s travel and the implications of that on her job performance. It’s a bit of a mixed bag for me.
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It’s not exactly a secret that if you’re in business and want something covered by the BJ, all you need to do is ask them. And whether your business subscribes, buys tables at events, buys ads, etc. may have an impact on whether your story gets covered.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 08, 2025
Do you have any evidence that Tishaura’s opponents pay the Business Journal and were able to influence this publication?
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You aren’t naive enough to believe that the 40 under 40 and 30 under 30 are the result of an objective, empirical analysis of the quality of area business people, are you?
That sounds like a no.JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑Jan 09, 2025It’s not exactly a secret that if you’re in business and want something covered by the BJ, all you need to do is ask them. And whether your business subscribes, buys tables at events, buys ads, etc. may have an impact on whether your story gets covered.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 08, 2025
Do you have any evidence that Tishaura’s opponents pay the Business Journal and were able to influence this publication?
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You aren’t naive enough to believe that the 40 under 40 and 30 under 30 are the result of an objective, empirical analysis of the quality of area business people, are you?
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Wonder how the city streets being shutdown most of a week by the snowstorm will affect a close race?
I know parts of the burbs are equally snowed in but just like explaining how inflation was felt outside the US too didn't help Democrats in the Presidential election I doubt it will in this case either.
Can't remember which Chicago mayor it was that lost reelection after a snowstorm in the 70s or 80s
I know parts of the burbs are equally snowed in but just like explaining how inflation was felt outside the US too didn't help Democrats in the Presidential election I doubt it will in this case either.
Can't remember which Chicago mayor it was that lost reelection after a snowstorm in the 70s or 80s
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That indeed sounds like a no.STLAPTS wrote:That sounds like a no.JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑Jan 09, 2025It’s not exactly a secret that if you’re in business and want something covered by the BJ, all you need to do is ask them. And whether your business subscribes, buys tables at events, buys ads, etc. may have an impact on whether your story gets covered.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 08, 2025
Do you have any evidence that Tishaura’s opponents pay the Business Journal and were able to influence this publication?
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You aren’t naive enough to believe that the 40 under 40 and 30 under 30 are the result of an objective, empirical analysis of the quality of area business people, are you?
Someone “in business” asking the BJ to cover a story is not an all the same thing as paying them to write a specific story with a narrative as you’ve accused them of.
I’m not aware of any instances of buying ads or subscribing to the BJ leading to preferential editorial treatment either.
The 40 under 40 and “Best of” list aren’t at all comparable to this story. A completely different form of journalism.
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I work in this town too. I know what it takes to get your story covered in the BJ.
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What does it take then? Any examples?JaneJacobsGhost wrote:I work in this town too. I know what it takes to get your story covered in the BJ.
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They are entirely the same in the sense that the contents of each did not originate in the hard hitting investigative reporting desk at the BJ.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 09, 2025
The 40 under 40 and “Best of” list aren’t at all comparable to this story. A completely different form of journalism.
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I’m not going to dox myself, thanks for asking though.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 09, 2025What does it take then? Any examples?JaneJacobsGhost wrote:I work in this town too. I know what it takes to get your story covered in the BJ.
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How do you know that though?JaneJacobsGhost wrote:They are entirely the same in the sense that the contents of each did not originate in the hard hitting investigative reporting desk at the BJ.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 09, 2025
The 40 under 40 and “Best of” list aren’t at all comparable to this story. A completely different form of journalism.
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I guess we’re going to get a BJ article every time the mayor leaves the city limits now.
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... -trip.html
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... -trip.html
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Poor Michael Butler. He doesn't get donations this time around.
Only until 8pm April 8thJaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑Jan 16, 2025I guess we’re going to get a BJ article every time the mayor leaves the city limits now.
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... -trip.html
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While I agree the Jones travel stories are overblown the optics of her going on another trip this week are terrible.
The comparisons to the 1979 Chicago mayoral race where Mixhael Blandic lost to Jane Byrne after a slow response to snow removal seem pretty apt now.
The comparisons to the 1979 Chicago mayoral race where Mixhael Blandic lost to Jane Byrne after a slow response to snow removal seem pretty apt now.
I’m actually starting to agree. Yesterday’s hearing did not help. Betherny Williams dropped the ball as a leader. A Jones appointed leader.Baltimore Jack wrote:While I agree the Jones travel stories are overblown the optics of her going on another trip this week are terrible.
The comparisons to the 1979 Chicago mayoral race where Mixhael Blandic lost to Jane Byrne after a slow response to snow removal seem pretty apt now.
In addition to the snow event and other small storylines (travel, SLDC, jail, evergreen crime), I realized yesterday that Jones will have about 100 days of Trumps second term to respond to.
I expect Trump will be authoritarian almost immediately. Spencer can hide but Jones, like other mayors, will have to respond to some of it. Opportunity for more story.
https://www.firstalert4.com/2025/01/17/st-louis-admits-city-workers-gave-bad-info-did-not-plow-streets-comptroller-asks-mayor-bring-outside-help/
https://www.firstalert4.com/2025/01/17/alarming-numbers-st-louis-city-workers-have-been-taking-paid-medical-leave-under-new-program/
Maybe these are just hit pieces, but where there's smoke you often find fire. To mix my metaphors, the administration appears rudderless, perhaps because the captain keeps leaving the ship unattended.
https://www.firstalert4.com/2025/01/17/alarming-numbers-st-louis-city-workers-have-been-taking-paid-medical-leave-under-new-program/
Maybe these are just hit pieces, but where there's smoke you often find fire. To mix my metaphors, the administration appears rudderless, perhaps because the captain keeps leaving the ship unattended.
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A streets dept shouldn’t need a mayor to tell them to salt and plow roads. Everyone had 7-10 days advance notice of this storm.
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I just can’t believe Jones is going to leave town tomorrow for a 3 day Mayors Conference. Surely she’ll cancel? The lack of political wisdom is stunning.
A complete layup for Spencer.
A complete layup for Spencer.