This mornings UCR didn’t list it as a homicide. Not all killings are criminal homicide, some are self defense, city has about 6-12 of those a year, it used to be much rarer before MO GOP expanding self defense laws
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I’m aware. But it will most likely end up being classified a homicide. Either way, the issue is gun violence.dbInSouthCity wrote:This mornings UCR didn’t list it as a homicide. Not all killings are criminal homicide, some are self defense, city has about 6-12 of those a year, it used to be much rarer before MO GOP expanding self defense lawsDebaliviere91 wrote: ↑Sep 15, 2024Nah someone got killed in Hyde Park last night.dbInSouthCity wrote: We are 36 hours away from 2 week homicide free.
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You’re trying to make a point about violence trends overall in the city, and I agree. The progress is worth celebrating.
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https://fox59.com/news/court-docs-conve ... -for-life/
Can we imagine if something like this happened at America's Center....
Can we imagine if something like this happened at America's Center....
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Reading between the lines, it sounds like many people stood by and watched this happen. How do you not intervene?Auggie wrote: ↑Sep 16, 2024https://fox59.com/news/court-docs-conve ... -for-life/
Can we imagine if something like this happened at America's Center....
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Has the STLMPD calls for service page been taken down?
People watch and record what happens instead of helping. Probably because of decades of identity politics.JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑Sep 16, 2024Reading between the lines, it sounds like many people stood by and watched this happen. How do you not intervene?Auggie wrote: ↑Sep 16, 2024https://fox59.com/news/court-docs-conve ... -for-life/
Can we imagine if something like this happened at America's Center....
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Got it, had the old address. Looks like a much better user experience now.
The problem is these days intervening in any meaningful way carries a not insignificant risk of being shot.flipz wrote: ↑Sep 17, 2024People watch and record what happens instead of helping. Probably because of decades of identity politics.JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑Sep 16, 2024Reading between the lines, it sounds like many people stood by and watched this happen. How do you not intervene?Auggie wrote: ↑Sep 16, 2024https://fox59.com/news/court-docs-conve ... -for-life/
Can we imagine if something like this happened at America's Center....
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shots fired happened to me
If possible lay on the ground flat
Once being in that situation of the pedestrian on a street with shots being fired around me and people running one really can NOT be certain where the shots are emanating from.
If you are in QT or similar lay flat on the floor
Bullets come down from being fired but being still and flat to the ground (behind a vehicle/a structure/ floor) one has a better chance than being that fleeing person who just might be fleeing TO the shooter
If possible lay on the ground flat
Once being in that situation of the pedestrian on a street with shots being fired around me and people running one really can NOT be certain where the shots are emanating from.
If you are in QT or similar lay flat on the floor
Bullets come down from being fired but being still and flat to the ground (behind a vehicle/a structure/ floor) one has a better chance than being that fleeing person who just might be fleeing TO the shooter
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Anyone know what happened near the Basilica last night? Property Damage and shots fired reported at 800pm - ish. Large police presence after.
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Someone used construction equipment to vandalize a statue on the cathedral grounds. Same person apparently shot at an unoccupied car.
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I was in the area. Seemed to me like it was a person with mental health issues having an episode. He got a hold of the construction equipment in front of the Church and knocked over a statue. Plus he was firing shots at random.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote:Anyone know what happened near the Basilica last night? Property Damage and shots fired reported at 800pm - ish. Large police presence after.
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So glad his second amendment rights are intact
JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑Sep 18, 2024Someone used construction equipment to vandalize a statue on the cathedral grounds. Same person apparently shot at an unoccupied car.
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There will be some blame given to the construction company. You can't leave those with the keys in it!
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2 double homicides in the city and 1 in KC yesterday evening/overnight.
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KC had three murders last night.
If I'm not mistaken, they're still leading St. Louis for the year with a narrow margin.
Bad night for both cities.
If I'm not mistaken, they're still leading St. Louis for the year with a narrow margin.
Bad night for both cities.
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^ A bad night indeed.
Yes, KC has 116 homicides ytd 116 v. 113 for STL City(counting the two double homicides). However, I believe their daily homicide report may include justifiable homicides whereas ours only counts murders; we'd have 120 when including justifiable homicides. KC also is below last year's record high, fwiw, but above 2021.
Yes, KC has 116 homicides ytd 116 v. 113 for STL City(counting the two double homicides). However, I believe their daily homicide report may include justifiable homicides whereas ours only counts murders; we'd have 120 when including justifiable homicides. KC also is below last year's record high, fwiw, but above 2021.
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CURRENT YEAR HOMICIDE PREDOMINATE CONTRIBUTING FACTOR listing for KC, shows 133 which includes 14 under defense.STLrainbow wrote: ↑Sep 19, 2024^ A bad night indeed.
Yes, KC has 116 homicides ytd 116 v. 113 for STL City(counting the two double homicides). However, I believe their daily homicide report may include justifiable homicides whereas ours only counts murders; we'd have 120 when including justifiable homicides. KC also is below last year's record high, fwiw, but above 2021.
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Kansas City's rate is definitely down from the last two years. They're on pace for 162, which would fall well short of 2023's 185 and 2022's 171.
^^ So KC does count justifiable homicides?
What seems really, really bad over in KC right now are smash-and-grabs. The mayor is even considering creating a fund to give $3,000 to affected businesses.
I've heard of a few smash-and-grabs in St. Louis (Hartford Coffee Co., for instance), but nothing like I'm hearing about out of Kansas City. Seems like dozens of businesses have been affected over there.
What seems really, really bad over in KC right now are smash-and-grabs. The mayor is even considering creating a fund to give $3,000 to affected businesses.
I've heard of a few smash-and-grabs in St. Louis (Hartford Coffee Co., for instance), but nothing like I'm hearing about out of Kansas City. Seems like dozens of businesses have been affected over there.
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I don’t think they do. 116 is the top line number.RockChalkSTL wrote: ↑Sep 19, 2024^^ So KC does count justifiable homicides?
What seems really, really bad over in KC right now are smash-and-grabs. The mayor is even considering creating a fund to give $3,000 to affected businesses.
I've heard of a few smash-and-grabs in St. Louis (Hartford Coffee Co., for instance), but nothing like I'm hearing about out of Kansas City. Seems like dozens of businesses have been affected over there.