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If Ness was on this forum he would know that month to month adjusts in subsequent month because they publish that data on the 4th day of next month and a homicide victim that was shot on Jan 27th but died on Feb 5th is still a Jan Homicide but won’t be reflected in Jan month to month but it is in the daily homicide tracker.

dbInSouthCity wrote:If Ness was on this forum he would know that month to month adjusts in subsequent month because they publish that data on the 4th day of next month and a homicide victim that was shot on Jan 27th but died on Feb 5th is still a Jan Homicide but won’t be reflected in Jan month to month but it is in the daily homicide tracker.

That’s true, though it doesn’t explain all the discrepancies in the article.

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Feb 26, 2024

dbInSouthCity wrote:If Ness was on this forum he would know that month to month adjusts in subsequent month because they publish that data on the 4th day of next month and a homicide victim that was shot on Jan 27th but died on Feb 5th is still a Jan Homicide but won’t be reflected in Jan month to month but it is in the daily homicide tracker.

That’s true, though it doesn’t explain all the discrepancies in the article.

they’re mostly in the unknown category until the case is closed before moving to the true category.  Sometime a car theft takes a while to investigate and to figure out it was a true car theft, so it gets put into the unknown and later added to the right one. This is why I never add the month to month.

SLMPD could do a better job explaining all of this but they don’t

dbInSouthCity wrote:

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Feb 26, 2024

dbInSouthCity wrote:If Ness was on this forum he would know that month to month adjusts in subsequent month because they publish that data on the 4th day of next month and a homicide victim that was shot on Jan 27th but died on Feb 5th is still a Jan Homicide but won’t be reflected in Jan month to month but it is in the daily homicide tracker.

That’s true, though it doesn’t explain all the discrepancies in the article.

they’re mostly in the unknown category until the case is closed before moving to the true category.  Sometime a car theft takes a while to investigate and to figure out it was a true car theft, so it gets put into the unknown and later added to the right one. This is why I never add the month to month.

SLMPD could do a better job explaining all of this but they don’t

Agreed. And like I said earlier, they aren’t very good at taking credit for the improvements in crime rates they have made.

Homicides are at 30 (27 last year) so after a hot start in January, we’re coming back to 2023 trend slowly again. Rest of crime day will be out on March 4 or 5

RFT - St. Charles Man Who Illegally Sold Guns Throughout Missouri Gets Probation

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/st ... n-42037008

It seems to me gas stations in the city are quite often in the focus of crime. And rightfully so.

Big blue cities are embracing conservative anti-crime measures. Here’s why.

San Francisco, Washington and New York City are among the municipalities where policymakers are backing harsher policies.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/07/liberal-cities-crime-policies-00145532

The old Crime thread has skipped over quite a bit lately but here's the Metro bus shooting update. Apparently Anthony Frazier didn't like the way Jorge Pinzon looked at him so Frazier shot him dead as well as innocent bystander Jaron Jackson-Craig.

Anecdotal but saw a disturbing incident at a city park yesterday. Some guy comes through blabbering something about "gon blast everyone, got it right here". Running up on people, scaring women and children, loud, really freaked out a lot people. I fantasized for hours about beating this guy to death in the middle of the park. Anyway...

https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/charg ... -homicide/

^which park?

leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑

Mar 13, 2024

I fantasized for hours about beating this guy to death in the middle of the park.

A shocking admission from Lee Harvey

Does St. Louis lead the nation in female homicides? Anybody have the stats?

https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/one-w ... shootings/

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑

Mar 14, 2024

But which park?

I'm hesitant to say. It's my favorite park. Don't want to give a bad name because it was a random 30 second situation. Just didn't like the gun threat. As we all know, this could happen anywhere! It was not one of the Big Two.

Great job SLMPD! Let’s hope Gore is delivered enough evidence to ensure this POS finishes his time on earth behind bars. No saving a 46 year old with prior convictions.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... p-homepage

St.Louis city violent crime from 1985-2023. I was hoping to get complete pre-1985 data from FBI that goes back into 1960s but it couldn't give me an ETA & its been a few months since i asked, so here is a complete set from 1985-2023. This place was very violent in 80s/90s.

Thanks, DB. Some serious carnage happening ~'89-'96. Would be interesting to plot that against population changes over those and subsequent years to see the effect. I know anecdotally a ton of (mostly white) families  moved out of the Southside in those years, culminating in several parochial school closures between 1997 and 2004ish, e.g., St. Anthony Padua and Immaculate Heart of Mary. All fled to the burbs, mainly Jeffco and SW Stl Co, e.g., Fenton.

after running hot to start the year on homicides, its started to cool down.  we are at 37 for the year vs 34 last year through March.  May will be the make-or-break month this year, it was 24 last year. 

reducing hours of alcohol sales from 6 am to 2 am to 9 am to 10 pm was associated with a 23% annual decrease in all violent crime compared with control areas.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/article-abstract/2817044

Crime for March and Q1

Man - amazing stats STL. 

SLMPD is arresting more people for gun crimes
and feds are bringing 2 more prosecuters to take on those that would qualify as federal gun crimes