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PostJun 15, 2022#176

^Low to no taxes will trump virtually any other decision, in the end. Corporations have neither heart nor conscience, but they do have auditors and a fiscal responsibility to their shareholders.

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PostJun 15, 2022#177

^but i thought corporations were people.  People that have no political donation limits...

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PostJun 16, 2022#178

^Odd legal people with neither heart nor conscience.

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PostJun 21, 2022#179

How can they be people with neither of those things? 

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PostJun 21, 2022#180

^Maybe if we move to Texas we can find out.

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PostJun 22, 2022#181

Hahahahahahahaha

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PostJun 23, 2022#182

Another high profile loss for Chicago: Citadel LLC, one of the world's largest hedge funds, is moving to Miami
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ken-griffi ... 1655994600

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PostJun 23, 2022#183

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Another high profile loss for Chicago: Citadel LLC, one of the world's largest hedge funds, is moving to Miami
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ken-griffi ... 1655994600
I was about to post it here. Also put it in the "Crime" thread in case some people don't come here.

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PostJun 23, 2022#184

Kellogg Co. will split into three companies, with snack headquarters in Chicago
https://www.chicagotribune.com/business ... story.html

Snacks accounted for 80% of Kelloggs overall sales in 2021. The remaining two HQs will be in Battle Creek, Michigan.

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PostJun 23, 2022#185

^That's a bit of a blow for Michigan. I'm honestly a bit sorry to hear it.

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PostSep 07, 2022#187

Arlington Heights proposal info as per ENR article.   

https://www.enr.com/articles/54755-nfls ... 1021934J9T

The Chicago Bears’ proposal to build a new stadium could be one of the largest development projects in Illinois history, with an attached entertainment district anchored by the venue, according to preliminary details shared by the team Sept. 6.

The National Football League team is currently under contract to purchase the 326-acre Arlington Park racecourse property in Arlington Heights, Ill., as a potential site to build a new stadium to replace its longtime lakefront home of Soldier Field in Chicago. The team’s lease at Soldier Field ends in 2033.

The team projects that construction of the development would have $9.4 billion in economic impact for the Chicagoland region, including supporting more than 48,000 jobs and providing $3.9 billion in labor income.

If the Bears do opt to build a new stadium in Arlington Heights, development would also include construction of a transit-oriented multi-use district that could include restaurants, offices, a hotel and other amenities, according to the team’s announcement.

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PostSep 07, 2022#188

Chicago started a Cruise leaving from Navy Pier with ending point being Toronto! 11 day Cruise and it costs $4,300 per person.


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PostSep 08, 2022#189

JJ Taino wrote:
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Chicago started a Cruise leaving from Navy Pier with ending point being Toronto! 11 day Cruise and it costs $4,300 per person.


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"Chicago" started it?

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PostSep 08, 2022#190

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JJ Taino wrote:
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Chicago started a Cruise leaving from Navy Pier with ending point being Toronto! 11 day Cruise and it costs $4,300 per person.


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"Chicago" started it?
Yes Sir! Technically about to start but you can get your tickets now.


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PostSep 08, 2022#191

No - the City did not start it. American Queen Voyages has a ton of different routes throughout the Great Lakes that their two ships offer, and while a few do include Chicago, it's not the home port. https://www.aqvoyages.com/lake-ocean-cr ... eat-lakes/

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PostSep 08, 2022#192

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No - the City did not start it. American Queen Voyages has a ton of different routes throughout the Great Lakes that their two ships offer, and while a few do include Chicago, it's not the home port. https://www.aqvoyages.com/lake-ocean-cr ... eat-lakes/
@JJ Taino ^

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PostSep 08, 2022#193

Not sure if the Board reads Crain's. But a really interesting Article on the Chicago DT Rental Apartment Market is currently and how crazy hot it is. In addition what isn't mentioned in the Condo Space Sub Market. I have a secondary parking space next door and I sublet for $500 dollars a month cash for 12 months upfront. It took me 15 minutes to rent out the space! Chicago might be reawakening a bit!

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PostSep 08, 2022#194

^ I was just there for work last week…maybe it’s because I live in STL…but I thought Chicago was fu*king thriving.  Was absolutely baffled by the 8pm bar closures in the Loop though.  Full disclosure I stayed close to my hotel and train station (Washington and Wells) and it did seem like River North had a hell of a lot more activity on my afternoon walk up there.  Either way, on the ground Chicago is not at all what these rubes on cable news are making it out to be (granted nothing is haha).

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PostSep 09, 2022#195

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^ I was just there for work last week…maybe it’s because I live in STL…but I thought Chicago was fu*king thriving.  Was absolutely baffled by the 8pm bar closures in the Loop though.  Full disclosure I stayed close to my hotel and train station (Washington and Wells) and it did seem like River North had a hell of a lot more activity on my afternoon walk up there.  Either way, on the ground Chicago is not at all what these rubes on cable news are making it out to be (granted nothing is haha).
I respectfully disagree a bit. Yes, Chicago is fu*king thriving and totally eats our lunch. But as a frequent visitor for both work and pleasure I can tell things are off. 

The Loop most noticeably during the daytime is the most jarring. The lack of office workers is a big difference and why so much closes early. Plus now that the Thompson Center is closed all the state workers are gone. Now they have to wait for the renovations and Google moving in. The Loop always wound down after dinner but the difference is huge.

River North is still hopping and the closed down streets with dining is so cool. But it's Michigan Ave and especially up around Water Tower Place where there are issues. The Macys being close and the mall itself is dying. Plus the closed stores like North Face, Best Buy etc in the Hancock Tower drag the area down.

At least for me the biggest thing I notice is riding the EL. There's a lot more "edge" and issues going on. It really reminds me of going when I was a kid in the 80s. People smoking on the platforms and trains (both tobacco and weed), open drinking, dirtiness and just an unsafe feeling. For now when I'm in Chicago I'm sticking to busses except when taking the Red Line with the crowds to ballgames.

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PostSep 09, 2022#196

^ Yeah. Been here for three years and visited frequently before 2019. In my experience and talking to locals, the trains are at a modern day low. Dirty and frequently violent.

My partner and I are more frequently choosing to stay on a friends couch than walk home.

CTAs solution, $32M one year contract for unarmed security with K9 staged at fare gates. Not going to solve anything.

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PostSep 09, 2022#197

Dude I was in LA, Seattle, and Portland over the last 3 weeks. After coming back from there sh*t whole cities. I can tell you STL and Chicago I would eat off of the streets. The world has changed! Were in a Enaminic Depression 2.0. Even DC is a mess. When you travel outside of STL you'll see how messed up everything is these days.

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PostSep 09, 2022#198

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sc4mayor wrote:
Sep 08, 2022
^ I was just there for work last week…maybe it’s because I live in STL…but I thought Chicago was fu*king thriving.  Was absolutely baffled by the 8pm bar closures in the Loop though.  Full disclosure I stayed close to my hotel and train station (Washington and Wells) and it did seem like River North had a hell of a lot more activity on my afternoon walk up there.  Either way, on the ground Chicago is not at all what these rubes on cable news are making it out to be (granted nothing is haha).
I respectfully disagree a bit. Yes, Chicago is fu*king thriving and totally eats our lunch. But as a frequent visitor for both work and pleasure I can tell things are off. 

The Loop most noticeably during the daytime is the most jarring. The lack of office workers is a big difference and why so much closes early. Plus now that the Thompson Center is closed all the state workers are gone. Now they have to wait for the renovations and Google moving in. The Loop always wound down after dinner but the difference is huge.

River North is still hopping and the closed down streets with dining is so cool. But it's Michigan Ave and especially up around Water Tower Place where there are issues. The Macys being close and the mall itself is dying. Plus the closed stores like North Face, Best Buy etc in the Hancock Tower drag the area down.

At least for me the biggest thing I notice is riding the EL. There's a lot more "edge" and issues going on. It really reminds me of going when I was a kid in the 80s. People smoking on the platforms and trains (both tobacco and weed), open drinking, dirtiness and just an unsafe feeling. For now when I'm in Chicago I'm sticking to busses except when taking the Red Line with the crowds to ballgames.
No real argument there, I didn’t make it up around Water Tower Place (I was in town for just one night) but am aware of the issues around there.

I rode the El quite a bit. Have heard about the crime and other problems (I read the tribune daily) so I’d be lying if I said it wasn’t in the back of my mind. But they definitely weren’t dirty and there weren’t any folks that made me feel uncomfortable…though there was a dude smoking in between cars for a few stops on the Orange Line. I found it more humorous than anything lol. That was about the most exciting/edgy thing I saw riding around. Not to say bad sh*t doesn’t happen though.

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PostSep 09, 2022#199

sc4mayor wrote:
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^ I was just there for work last week…maybe it’s because I live in STL…but I thought Chicago was fu*king thriving.  Was absolutely baffled by the 8pm bar closures in the Loop though.  Full disclosure I stayed close to my hotel and train station (Washington and Wells) and it did seem like River North had a hell of a lot more activity on my afternoon walk up there.  Either way, on the ground Chicago is not at all what these rubes on cable news are making it out to be (granted nothing is haha).
I was recently in a very different part of Chicago to visit family and Chicago is absolutely a tale of two cities. I believe a popular urbanist on twitter said that Chicago is like 1/3 San Francisco and 2/3 Detroit. From what I saw a couple months back, I totally agree. Obviously, Chicago is a massive city and the scale is only topped by NYC and LA, but I'd say that there is a very, very, very large swath of the city that is very reminiscent of North St. Louis. 

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PostSep 09, 2022#200

Photos: Renderings of Chicago Bears’ development plans for Arlington Heights
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/b ... qpkPg7fNhU

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