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dweebe wrote: ↑

Jun 02, 2022

My thought is to let's wait a few years and let the MLS team set some roots before we start banging the drum loudly for a women's team.

Like I pointed out most NWSL teams play in MLS stadiums. If anything I see KC's drive for a near downtown women's only stadium as a partial admission that Children's Mercy Park isn't a good location.

I think it is a good thought, plan.  However, my two cent revision would be a Rugby Pro/Women's Pro team playing on same field as the proposed Rugby stadium near NGA I believe.   However, being completely clueless on the sport not sure if that is doable in terms of the field itself, pitch or to different?

The new windows in City's office building are a huge improvement.

I don't see why Carolyn Kindle-Betz needs to wait around to form an NWSL club. 

If she thinks there is money to be made, and if she thinks she can pull it off, then she merely has to do what she's already doing with the MLS club -- hire people in the know and let them handle everything. 

The Economics of Stadium Names:
https://axiomalpha.com/the-economics-of-stadium-names/

With Centene offloading much of their area office space i can see this being a good investment with that extra cash.

Interesting that there are a decent number of workmen there on a Sunday on the east side of the stadium. Our only guess was maybe the possible rain tomorrow.

dweebe wrote: ↑

Jun 25, 2022

No Bronze Boot game to soft open the stadium. SLU Mens Soccer announces schedule and the game will be at SIU-E

https://slubillikens.com/news/2022/6/23 ... edule.aspx

The Billikens will play five of their next seven matches in the St. Louis area, including the Bronze Boot game against SIUE on Tuesday, Sept. 13, at Korte Stadium in Edwardsville, Ill. The Bronze Boot rivalry dates back more than 50 years, and this will be the fourth matchup between the Billikens and Cougars since the Bronze Boot match was resumed in 2018.

I think I posted this in another thread. But it’s a shame they couldn’t figure it out. Would have been cool. Maybe next year.

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dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

Jun 27, 2022

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oooOOOooh I like it!

I don't recall seeing lighting like that in the renders, is this new?

-RBB

I’m spending a few days in Columbus, Ohio and their MLS stadium is beautiful. I hope that our finish product looks at least as good as this one but they did a great job!


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Roughly two months after my last fly around update, I sent the drone up today to get another update. I haven't decided if this will be my last one or if I do one more this August.
Video fly around link: 


















These last two pictures are a comparison from roughly the same angle taken 20 months apart.

It's crazy to me how similar the end product is to the renderings. Thanks for the pictures Chris.

^Looking great, Chris! Thanks for the updates.

thestlguy wrote: ↑

Jul 04, 2022

It's crazy to me how similar the end product is to the renderings. Thanks for the pictures Chris.

A true example of a project done right. 

That is nice to see. Hopefully those panels are translucent and that color can be seen from the top. If they rim the whole stadium in that way it would definitely help improve this design in my eye.

Which leads me to this point. I’ll probably get roasted but oh well.

I feel like this design is slightly underwhelming. Maybe more of a missed opportunity would be how to put it. Don’t get me wrong. I like it for the most part. I’m at about 80%. I just don’t love it - yet. But with just a few more tweaks I think it could have been much more pleasing ascetically. For instance take one of the stadiums best features, the glass curtain wall on Market. It looks nice and modern unlike the other three sides where you get views of the underside of bleachers and restroom/concession back of house like a D2 college. Why not extend that curtain wall to the other sides giving the stadium a uniform enclosed look all the way around. They could have still left strategic views open onto the pitch or the seating areas where needed.

Additionally, while the columns look great and the idea is befitting an end cap building sitting on a mall surrounded by other historical buildings. But again I feel like they could have done a little more such as make the columns slightly larger and more ornate. Nothing too gaudy, just a column with coved insets and maybe something more substantial as the base and caps. With the LED roof they could have even incorporated LEDs into the columns themselves. That combo along with the white palate of the stadium itself would be spectacular.

IDK, in the end I still think it will look great and maybe my issues will temper over time.


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I think my biggest problem with this stadium is that it seats only 22,500 and not 30,000. 

St. Louis is going to be a smash success for MLS and I think we'll ultimately wish we'd put more seats in Centene Stadium. 

Idk how much of the $460M spent was just on the stadium itself but whatever it was (lets say $300M) its pretty pedestrian design on the outside compared to what you see in Europe and other places for $300M. 

It's supposed to be complete this month, right? Is that still the goal? My main concern is the 348 non-gamedays per year.

Kind of disappointed there haven't been any announcements about events. We're going to need a lot more than 17 MLS games a year to make the neighborhood more lively. They should've already secured a women's pro team. Will the academy teams play there? With that stadium capacity and St. Louisans' fandom (see the XFL), MLS game ticket prices may cost more than a major European pro game.

Some earlier press coverage touted concerts, but how much will other events be allowed without concern for damaging the turf?