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PostJun 24, 2022#1776

Ebsy wrote:
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Wow skyrocketing crime in Clayton kills another development!
I mean … Metrolink you know?

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PostJun 24, 2022#1777

Because we all know criminals time their crimes by calculating distance to metro station and next train so they can make their get away


Of the 111 incidents at metrolink stations, 66 are at north Hanley station and of those and the 111 large majority are park and ride lot car theft or break in

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PostJun 24, 2022#1778

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Jun 24, 2022
Because we all know criminals time their crimes by calculating distance to metro station and next train so they can make their get away


Of the 111 incidents at metrolink stations, 66 are at north Hanley station and of those and the 111 large majority are park and ride lot car theft or break in
I thought I was pretty obviously joking.

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PostJun 28, 2022#1779

rbb wrote:
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wabash wrote:
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moorlander wrote:
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They are calling this temporary structure, slated for the SE corner of Forsyth and Carondelet Plaza a “welcome center.”





Update on future phases

Impressive. 

Hopefully the welcome center includes a historic plaque or wall illustration describing the history of the Clayton Hole to interested visitors. 


-RBB
Looks like I need to update this...

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PostJul 16, 2022#1780

I don't know if anyone has ever caught this or known this about Centene C, but fun fact. The roof is an entirely green roof, with very healthy vegetation. What that is growing on top, I do not know. But thought to share this hidden perspective.
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PostJul 16, 2022#1781

Hopefully weed

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PostJul 16, 2022#1782

Looks to be sedum trays. I wonder how deep and how much storm water it captures.

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PostJul 17, 2022#1783

I wonder if that hose suggests they actually water the things to keep them green in the summer heat. How much maintenance does a roof like that require? (I have this feeling it's heap tons, but . . . maybe I'm wrong.)

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PostJul 17, 2022#1784

Are green roofs even worth it? They're very heavy, expensive, and require a lot of maintenance. They're a great concept, but in an environment like St. Louis they must be very difficult to maintain, especially when we have periods where we can go weeks without rain. 

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PostJul 17, 2022#1785

jacob_rb_15 wrote:Are green roofs even worth it? They're very heavy, expensive, and require a lot of maintenance. They're a great concept, but in an environment like St. Louis they must be very difficult to maintain, especially when we have periods where we can go weeks without rain. 
They are designed in a manner to hold water for long periods of times…well at least newer ones are. STL isn’t that bad of a place to have them the only rough months are June and July if I recall. I typically use this website to understand design needs of them: https://www.purple-roof.com

Now California has lots of green roofs and statistically that is a difficult place to maintain them. Overall the purpose of green roof is climate related so I’d say they are worth it if you spend the right money. If you don’t spend the right money you’re wasting it and setting yourself up for failure.

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PostAug 18, 2022#1786

Breaking news—Centene drops plans for East Coast HQ

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2022/08/18/centene-east-coast-campus-university-city-canceled.html

Basically, work-from-home is driving this, 90% of their employees are remote.

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PostAug 18, 2022#1787

Biz journal be like- here is why this is bad news for downtown STL

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PostAug 19, 2022#1788

Hartman on Donnybrook speculated that this may indicate that Centene may be about to be acquired (citing their financial woes). McClennan, meanwhile, scolded him for trying to find a cloud in the silver lining; let's at least be happy that for now they don't seem to be planning an HQ relocation. 

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PostAug 19, 2022#1789

Wow. And McClennan is the biggest cloud-searching Eyore in town.

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PostAug 19, 2022#1790

Is this not good for STL?

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PostAug 19, 2022#1791

Wow, the view from Charlotte is not so good this morning. While most in NC are in shock, the unpredictability of the post-covid office market makes this more understandable. 

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/ ... 64104.html

PostAug 19, 2022#1792

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Aug 18, 2022
Biz journal be like- here is why this is bad news for downtown STL
Why does the BJ feel that this is bad for STL? 

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PostAug 19, 2022#1793

He's being facetious. There is no evident reason to think this is bad for St. Louis at this time. 

It's been said that the new CEO is pro-STL. My guess is that they will reduce their office space footprint while maintaining their headquarters here in the St. Louis region. 

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PostAug 19, 2022#1794

I don’t think it’s bad for St. Louis. I don’t think its good for St. Louis. Late CEO said STL struggles to attract talent. Right or wrong, it’s not going to get any easier when Centene isn’t actively trying.

Where does a recent WashU grad with a new job at Centene go now that Clayton isn’t a requirement? Home? Chicago? New York? Or stay in St. Louis? Not suggesting one is better than the other, that’s just a new variable.

Let’s hope most of the existing Clayton headcount chooses to continue living in St. Louis region by 2025. I expect most will.

Every economic development strategy meant to attract an educated workforce should be about individual livability.

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PostAug 19, 2022#1795

That problem is not going to be St. Louis' alone. 

The super expensive coastal cities like New York, Boston, and San Francisco will have to deal with this, too. If workers no longer have to dish out outrageous amounts for rent, will they? 

Those cities will always have massive appeal, but so will more cash in your pocket. 

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PostAug 19, 2022#1796

I've never understood why STL has such a talent issue when we have one of the most prestigious universities in the country right in the heart of the area.  Wash U, SLU, UMSL, Webster, SIUE, SIUC, the list goes on. We have a good amount of college students here. While we will lag behind the mega-cities in the US, companies should have no issue recruiting talent here, in comparison to peer cities and even some larger cities in the next tier. It will always be hard to compete with warmer sunbelt cities, coastal and mountain cities. I feel like, if companies put in the effort, they can recruit people here. 

Now, back to Centene. I think the remote work situation is a wash. I know so many people that can work remotely who've moved back to STL. By the same token, I would guess just as many people from out of town who lived here for work, have moved back home (outside of STL) to work remotely. It is a huge positive to have a pro-STL CEO and a company that has gone out of their way in a very public manner, to express their commitment to STL ie.... STL CITY SC,etc.  While it is unclear whether or not the Charlotte deal is good or bad for STL, back when they announced it, to many of us, Centene was out of here. Based upon that, I feel better today than I did when Mike Neidorff was criticizing STL and building a massive EC HQ in NC. 

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PostAug 19, 2022#1797

I really don't think there's all that much to worry about. 

It would be wild if Centene would commit to spending corporate dollars on a local stadium naming rights deal, only to be sold and gone before the new club plays its first game. 

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PostAug 19, 2022#1798

RockChalkSTL wrote:
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I really don't think there's all that much to worry about. 

It would be wild if Centene would commit to spending corporate dollars on a local stadium naming rights deal, only to be sold and gone before the new club plays its first game. 
It has happened before. The Dome had TWA on it just a couple years before they got bought.

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PostAug 19, 2022#1799

I think a lot of the recent development in the urban core will make St. Louis more appealing for future talent retention. Let's face it, St. Louis has done a terrible job in the past creating a lifestyle that is appealing to young, urban professionals. A lot of people have been critical of all the entertainment and lifestyle districts popping up in the region, but to be honest there was probably a major lack of those type of developments for a region of nearly 3 million people. That's why many of these places are 90% leased before they even complete construction.

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PostAug 19, 2022#1800

DogtownBnR wrote:
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I've never understood why STL has such a talent issue when we have one of the most prestigious universities in the country right in the heart of the area.  Wash U, SLU, UMSL, Webster, SIUE, SIUC, the list goes on. We have a good amount of college students here. While we will lag behind the mega-cities in the US, companies should have no issue recruiting talent here, in comparison to peer cities and even some larger cities in the next tier. It will always be hard to compete with warmer sunbelt cities, coastal and mountain cities. I feel like, if companies put in the effort, they can recruit people here. 
I don't know about the other universities, but most WashU grads are not from the area (>90% out of state) and leave the area after graduation. There are no significant reasons to stay other than idiosyncratic personal reasons (marrying a local etc). Just like Indiana grads leave Bloomington or Dartmouth grads leave Hanover. 

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