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PostMar 02, 2022#2901

Not cool. Glad this pointless display stayed out of the city yesterday

https://www.kmov.com/2022/03/02/local-f ... -mandates/

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PostMar 03, 2022#2902

WashU has dropped their mask requirement. Masks will be optional starting week after next and there will no longer be capacity limits at school-sponsored events.

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PostMar 04, 2022#2903

^Gateway Festival is back on their quad this summer. Makes me happy. Are visitors allowed back yet?

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PostMar 04, 2022#2904

symphonicpoet wrote:
Mar 04, 2022
^Gateway Festival is back on their quad this summer. Makes me happy. Are visitors allowed back yet?
Visitors have been allowed back for a while now, they are just supposed to do a COVID screening form online beforehand. Not sure if that requirement will drop soon.

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PostMar 05, 2022#2905

^Glad to hear it! An acquaintance and his son visited last summer as he considered the place and he wasn't even able to so much as tour the library. It sounded pretty dismal. (And I think he chose to go elsewhere, though don't quote me on that.)

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PostMar 06, 2022#2906

IT AINT OVER ITS JUST GETTING RE STARTED:  Beijing ramps up response to Hong Kong’s raging fifth wave

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3169361/coronavirus-15-cent-hongkongers-could-be-infected

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PostMar 06, 2022#2907

This isn’t a 5th wave in Hong Kong. It’s the first wave. Negative consequence of zero covid is that at some point you’ll get a omicron variant type where it will be impossible to execute zero covid
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PostMar 07, 2022#2908

Hong Kong, which is currently experiencing the worst covid-19 surge the territory has ever seen, has started to adopt a mass testing regime that mirrors mainland China. https://gizmodo.com/china-reports-214-cases-of-covid-19-on-monday-the-high-1848615942

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PostMar 07, 2022#2909

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Mar 06, 2022
This isn’t a 5th wave in Hong Kong. It’s the first wave. Negative consequence of zero covid is that at some point you’ll get a omicron variant type where it will be impossible to execute zero covid
Is that a negative consequence? Like, "on no, we saved all those lives for nothing?" If a bridge collapses nobody says "we wasted decades inspecting bridges for absolutely no reason".

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PostMar 07, 2022#2910

^I'd say experiencing the worst Covid surge in the world is a negative consequence. 

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PostMar 07, 2022#2911

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Mar 07, 2022
^I'd say experiencing the worst Covid surge in the world is a negative consequence. 
This surge is only a consequence in the sense that it's relative to an abnormally safe baseline. That's like seeing someone get shot and saying "this surge in being shot is a negative consequence of not deliberately shooting yourself in the foot every day".

Their worst case scenario is still "everyone got infected after being vaccinated" which is still a better outcome than 99% of the world has already experienced. If they've suddenly had a thousand COVID deaths, they're still about 99,000 deaths away from matching the fatality rate in the US.

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PostMar 09, 2022#2912

The outbreak in Hong Kong is very bad in absolute terms, and is killing many elderly unvaccinated people who likely would have lived had they been vaccinated. The outbreak there is way past the point of control and has in fact been made substantially worse by the "zero covid" policies pursued by the Chinese government. 

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PostMar 09, 2022#2913

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The outbreak in Hong Kong is very bad in absolute terms, and is killing many elderly unvaccinated people who likely would have lived had they been vaccinated. The outbreak there is way past the point of control and has in fact been made substantially worse by the "zero covid" policies pursued by the Chinese government
I bolded the part that requires more explanation.

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PostMar 11, 2022#2914

China locks down a city of 9 million amid a new spike in COVID-19 cases
By The Associated Press
Friday, March 11, 2022 
https://text.npr.org/1085985036

PostMar 11, 2022#2915

Germany: New daily COVID-19 infections pass 250,000 for first time
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-new-daily-covid-19-infections-pass-250000-for-first-time/a-61075687

PostMar 12, 2022#2916

‘It Is Disheartening’
restaurant workers react to the end of the citywide vaccine mandate
https://www.grubstreet.com/2022/03/new-york-restaurant-workers-react-to-end-of-vaxx-mandate.html?utm_medium=s1&utm_source=tw&utm_campaign=nym

PostMar 14, 2022#2917

dont want to look because its over there: Germany Raises Alarm as Covid Infections Surge to Record Levels
  • Seven-day incidence rate hits new high for third straight day
  • Health minister warns of ‘many deaths’ as infections climb

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PostMar 14, 2022#2918

chris fuller wrote:
Mar 11, 2022
China locks down a city of 9 million amid a new spike in COVID-19 cases
By The Associated Press
Friday, March 11, 2022 
https://text.npr.org/1085985036
It's getting more severe in China... 
CNBC: China Covid spike: Shenzhen shuts production, Shanghai closes schools

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PostMar 14, 2022#2919

gone corporate wrote:
Mar 14, 2022
chris fuller wrote:
Mar 11, 2022
China locks down a city of 9 million amid a new spike in COVID-19 cases
By The Associated Press
Friday, March 11, 2022 
https://text.npr.org/1085985036
It's getting more severe in China... 
CNBC: China Covid spike: Shenzhen shuts production, Shanghai closes schools
not going to help with inflation when you look at what is made in that town

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PostMar 15, 2022#2920

gone corporate wrote:
Mar 14, 2022
chris fuller wrote:
Mar 11, 2022
China locks down a city of 9 million amid a new spike in COVID-19 cases
By The Associated Press
Friday, March 11, 2022 
https://text.npr.org/1085985036
It's getting more severe in China... 
CNBC: China Covid spike: Shenzhen shuts production, Shanghai closes schools
Now would be a good time to stock up on any manufactured products.

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PostMar 15, 2022#2921

It aint over: U.S. Sewer Data Warns of a New Bump in Covid Cases After Lull
Data from wastewater can spot a rise in infections before it shows up through positive tests

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PostMar 15, 2022#2922

chris fuller wrote:
Mar 15, 2022
It aint over: U.S. Sewer Data Warns of a New Bump in Covid Cases After Lull
Data from wastewater can spot a rise in infections before it shows up through positive tests
This might be the best leading indicator we have left, apart from looking at other countries, but it seems like STL data is always a few weeks old.

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PostMar 21, 2022#2923

The surprising link between Covid-19 deaths and ... internet access
https://www.vox.com/22979086/covid-pandemic-deaths-mortality-broadband-internet-access

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PostMar 21, 2022#2924

chris fuller wrote:
Mar 21, 2022
The surprising link between Covid-19 deaths and ... internet access
https://www.vox.com/22979086/covid-pandemic-deaths-mortality-broadband-internet-access
I'm a bit skeptical of this finding.
What does it mean to be essentially "too poor to get internet access, controlling for socioeconomic status"? That's a nonsensical concept. And if the lack of internet is due to poor local infrastructure, that is likely to correlate highly with the availability of healthcare services (i.e. nobody lives across the street from a hospital but can't get internet). An older person who doesn't have internet because they just can't comprehend it is also more likely to have be less mentally sharp, which could be a causal factor.

Basically, this whole article screams "correlation != causation" to me.

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PostMar 25, 2022#2925

MarkHaversham wrote:
Mar 21, 2022
chris fuller wrote:
Mar 21, 2022
The surprising link between Covid-19 deaths and ... internet access
https://www.vox.com/22979086/covid-pandemic-deaths-mortality-broadband-internet-access
I'm a bit skeptical of this finding.
What does it mean to be essentially "too poor to get internet access, controlling for socioeconomic status"? That's a nonsensical concept. And if the lack of internet is due to poor local infrastructure, that is likely to correlate highly with the availability of healthcare services (i.e. nobody lives across the street from a hospital but can't get internet). An older person who doesn't have internet because they just can't comprehend it is also more likely to have be less mentally sharp, which could be a causal factor.

Basically, this whole article screams "correlation != causation" to me.
25% of Americans don't have broadband access in their homes, and the numbers tend to be disproportionately high in that group among those without any college education and those who make under $30K per year. It shouldn't be shocking that people who have less access to information are less likely to be vaccinated or to fully grasp the importance of NPI measures.

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