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PostFeb 17, 2022#2851

A few of you please continue your obsession with this. Meanwhile, I’m going to play indoor tennis today, prepare for our spring break trip to FLA in a couple weeks, and go maskless to several bars and restaurants this weekend.

Please stay home, better seats for myself, my family and my friends.

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PostFeb 17, 2022#2852

chris fuller wrote:
Feb 17, 2022
It aint over
Omicron Sub-Variant Forecast to Cause S. Africa Infection Surge
    Sub-variant spreading rapidly in South Africa, scientist sayshttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-02/omicron-s-ba-2-may-cause-infection-wave-hump-de-oliveira-says
https://github.com/cov-lineages/pango-d ... ion/issues
Looks like there are a few identified possible Omicron/Delta recombinant variants, which could be really bad in the next wave (delta severity + omicron infectiousness and evasiveness).

PostFeb 17, 2022#2853

whitherSTL wrote:
Feb 17, 2022
A few of you please continue your obsession with this. Meanwhile, I’m going to play indoor tennis today, prepare for our spring break trip to FLA in a couple weeks, and go maskless to several bars and restaurants this weekend.

Please stay home, better seats for myself, my family and my friends.
Have fun and good luck!

PostFeb 17, 2022#2854

Here's a fun fact! COVID is the third-leading cause of death, officially. However, "heart disease" and "cancer" are really categories of similar presentations of dozens of different problems. So as a single agent of death, COVID is #1 by far, maybe by a whole order of magnitude!
  • Heart disease: 696,962
  • Cancer: 602,350
  • COVID-19: 350,831
  • Accidents (unintentional injuries): 200,955
  • Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 160,264
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leadin ... -death.htm

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PostFeb 18, 2022#2855

Covid reaches the choose-your-own-adventure stage in America
We have reached the point in the fight against Covid where we get to choose our own path.
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/covid-mask-mandates-should-be-lifted-we-approach-pre-pandemic-n1289230

PostFeb 18, 2022#2856

Is the true COVID impact on society being suppressed? On the one hand we are all being told by the authorities (self appointed and otherwise) that case counts are down, deaths are down, hospitalizations are down. At the same time, at least here on NC, we are warned nearly daily about the horrors of reinfection, decreasing efficacies of vaccines, long COVID, and the like. How can good news + bad news = good news? It seems to me that this pandemic is akin to a long and dangerous mountain ascent. We may yet reach the summit, but there are still lots of challenges ahead. This is not the current narrative, unfortunately. Just lots of happy talk lately.
Is it time to live with COVID-19? Some scientists warn of ‘endemic delusion’
As pandemic restrictions lift, researchers stress the need to prepare for the next variant
https://www.science.org/content/article/it-time-live-covid-19-some-scientists-warn-endemic-delusion

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PostFeb 18, 2022#2857

whitherSTL wrote:
Feb 17, 2022
A few of you please continue your obsession with this. Meanwhile, I’m going to play indoor tennis today, prepare for our spring break trip to FLA in a couple weeks, and go maskless to several bars and restaurants this weekend.

Please stay home, better seats for myself, my family and my friends.
I’m the last 12 months I’ve been to England, Puerto Rico, St.Thomas, 40 US cities. As I’ve been saying things have been normal for a year now- glad you could finally join us.

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PostFeb 18, 2022#2858

We have reached the point in the fight against Covid where we get to choose our own path.
"I travel everywhere so I know" MUST DO SPRING BREAK LMAO
Pandemics disable people — the history lesson that policymakers and people  ignore
Influenza, polio and more have shown that infections can change lives even decades later. Why the complacency over possible long-term effects of COVID-19?
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00414-x

PostFeb 18, 2022#2859

and if you do get covid (we know its only the flu) but to treat your covid you just may get caught up in a regulatory nightmare https://www.oag.ok.gov/articles/attorney-general-oconnor-assures-oklahoma-physicians-are-not-prohibited-prescribing-label

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PostFeb 18, 2022#2860

My favorite bit is people who insist we have to live with COVID, and they complain about seeing masks, random school closings, shortages, vulnerable friends who won't hang out with them indoors, etc. That's what living with COVID means, geniuses! It's a massive increase in baseline uncertainty and misery, forever.

I feel bad for tipped workers who have to choose between wearing masks to protect their health and or foregoing them to protect their tips. No surprise restaurants struggle to find workers.

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PostFeb 18, 2022#2861

I travel everywhere ! spring break!
white ppl
A new paper in PLOS "came out of a lot of discussion between all of the authors about why the broad majority of infectious disease transmission models have not typically treated equity – the distribution of who gets infected as a function of wealth, race/ethnicity, gender, and on – as a first-class concern alongside population-level patterns of incidence and mortality."

https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371/journal.pcbi.1009795

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PostFeb 18, 2022#2862

^ I guess you haven't been on a budget flight from St. Louis to Florida or Vegas lately.

And I don't do spring break.

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PostFeb 18, 2022#2863

^Exactly. Sheesh black ppl….there’s more diversity on a SW flight to Panama City, Tampa, Fort Lauderdale, etc than a south STL bar like
Pepper’s where DB Hangs out.

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PostFeb 18, 2022#2864

You two "turds" certainly like to comment a bunch on a topic you claim you aren't concerned about.

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PostFeb 18, 2022#2866

Not to mention, you can unsubscribe to this discussion. There's a button at the top of the page ✌

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PostFeb 18, 2022#2867

“CDC wants to “give people a break” from masks, says new guidance coming”

Inspired by the CDC’s mask guidance, Pete Buttigieg as Secretary of Transportation has announced that every Friday will now be known as a “No Seat Belt Friday” to ‘give people a break’ from having to continuously doing up their seat belt every time they climb into a car. Pete Buttigieg is quoted as saying that he expects Fridays to have an immediate impact on some car drivers and their passengers and he hopes that as people go roaring down a highway with nothing to restrain their Freedom, that people will think about him. Especially come election time.

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PostFeb 18, 2022#2868

chris fuller wrote:
Feb 18, 2022
“CDC wants to “give people a break” from masks, says new guidance coming”

Inspired by the CDC’s mask guidance, Pete Buttigieg as Secretary of Transportation has announced that every Friday will now be known as a “No Seat Belt Friday” to ‘give people a break’ from having to continuously doing up their seat belt every time they climb into a car. Pete Buttigieg is quoted as saying that he expects Fridays to have an immediate impact on some car drivers and their passengers and he hopes that as people go roaring down a highway with nothing to restrain their Freedom, that people will think about him. Especially come election time.
The CDC, constantly framing masks as a punishment: "Why don't people want to wear masks?"

PostFeb 18, 2022#2869

The fact that Delta and Omicron are recombining in various places seems like it would rule out the first two scenarios.

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PostFeb 19, 2022#2870

GM has been saying this for a while, albeit in more geeky terms:
Wow.
"A Cov2 variant could emerge with the transmissibility of Omicron and the deadliness of the original SARS"
Thanks @RogerGustafsso2
https://t.co/hZXbfms7Xi
la la la la la

PostFeb 19, 2022#2871

"Ive traveled to England and Puerto Rico and..........." What about Iceland? pic.twitter.com/oHNFtU30Rr

PostFeb 20, 2022#2872

Its over there who cares?  COVID is ripping through the units stationed in Belarus. Official stats have case numbers breaking all records. Army units have *really* high numbers at all ranks & they infecting the locals. Many soldiers are treated in field hospitals (tents?) as local facilities are full https://twitter.com/kshmatsina/status/1494655948912267264?s=21

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PostFeb 26, 2022#2873

With the new mask criteria, the CDC looks county by county and assigns a low, medium, or high risk based on the criteria below.  They now say most folks in low (green) and medium (yellow) category counties no longer need to be required to wear masks indoors.  

St. Louis City and St. Louis County are both in the yellow category, meaning for most folks masks are no longer required indoors.  Of the 3 criteria, St. Louis City and County fall short in 2 of the 3 counts needed to get to low risk.
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St. Louis Metro Counties current mask risk status
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New CDC criteria for mask risk
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PostFeb 27, 2022#2874

I've been saying for a while that the CDC would eventually give up on achieving safety and simply redefine safety to include ongoing mass death. As a country we're seeing 5x as many COVID deaths per day as last summer, but somehow that means we can safely loosen mitigation measures.

I wonder how long until wheelchair ramps and handicap parking mandates are removed because "they are not required for most people".

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PostFeb 27, 2022#2875

Ramps and parking spaces don't have adverse effects on people without disabilities. Many Covid guidelines do have a negative impact. Maybe not physically, but psychologically and financially. If you're worried about catching Covid, you can still wear a mask yourself. The world has to return to some sense of normalcy. I have spent the past two years playing my part to a T. Stopped going to the gym and focused on jogging around the neighborhood and virtual yoga through a local studio. I work from home, make sure I only have to do one grocery run a week, and have rarely dined inside a restaurant, choosing carry-out or delivery in order to keep local restaurants open. Workers have been forced into challenging environments. Others have been laid off. The lack of human connection has been killing me, forcing me to pay for therapy and medication.

I understand your concern, Mark, but we all need to just learn to live with it, take whatever precautions we feel we need to take personally (including making healthy choices in our daily lives to boost our immune systems), and accept the risk at this point.

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