Sorry, I can only understand philosophy presented in the form of a TV comedy.Bart Harley Jarvis wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2022T. M Scanlon - What We Owe Each Other
Contractualism - The normative domain of what we owe to each other is meant to encompass those duties to other people which we bear in virtue of their standing as rational creatures.
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Well of course, reported COVID cases have dropped dangerously below last year's peak, we need to take drastic action to get those numbers back up. If we don't do something, COVID might become extinct.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2022New Jersey Gov announced that the state is dropping masking requirements for schools. This will be the case for all states within a few weeks
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^You are more exhausting than COVID. Just stay in your house forever and stop lecturing those of us who understand reasonably mitigated risk.
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Thanks, I am a dope for learning something.MarkHaversham wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2022Sorry, I can only understand philosophy presented in the form of a TV comedy.Bart Harley Jarvis wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2022T. M Scanlon - What We Owe Each Other
Contractualism - The normative domain of what we owe to each other is meant to encompass those duties to other people which we bear in virtue of their standing as rational creatures.
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Sorry, I meant that as a slight against myself, not you.Bart Harley Jarvis wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2022Thanks, I am a dope for learning something.MarkHaversham wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2022Sorry, I can only understand philosophy presented in the form of a TV comedy.Bart Harley Jarvis wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2022T. M Scanlon - What We Owe Each Other
Contractualism - The normative domain of what we owe to each other is meant to encompass those duties to other people which we bear in virtue of their standing as rational creatures.
Reasonably mitigated risk = remove all mitigations.Baltimore Jack wrote:^You are more exhausting than COVID. Just stay in your house forever and stop lecturing those of us who understand reasonably mitigated risk.
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The future of the pandemic is looking clearer as we learn more about infection
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/02/07/1057245449/the-future-of-the-pandemic-is-looking-clearer-as-we-learn-more-about-infection
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/02/07/1057245449/the-future-of-the-pandemic-is-looking-clearer-as-we-learn-more-about-infection
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https://newrepublic.com/article/165306/ ... evelopment
"Face masks keep kids safe from Covid-19 and keep schools open. There’s no evidence they harm kids developmentally."
"Face masks keep kids safe from Covid-19 and keep schools open. There’s no evidence they harm kids developmentally."
Any mention of Long COVID, which impacts mildly infected as easily as severe cases, is conspicuously absent.chris fuller wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2022The future of the pandemic is looking clearer as we learn more about infection
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/02/07/1057245449/the-future-of-the-pandemic-is-looking-clearer-as-we-learn-more-about-infection
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So, right now, I'm just getting over my second round of full blown Covid. Having been vaccinated three times, the virus was less powerful than it was the first time I got it back in November 2020. Still, the headaches were powerful; the brain fog rendered me unable to smartly work for almost the entire two weeks; and more than a week into recovery I still cannot sleep for even four hours at a time without waking up in the middle of the night, and that's with OTC sleep medication. The sleep issues are now going into the fourth week, no matter how physically or mentally exhausted I am.
In summation: I'm tired, lethargic, and not always as mentally sharp as I was prior to getting Covid the second time.
Meanwhile, this thread has become comparably exhausting. Can we stick to actual headline news rather than opinion pieces? Can we not have it be about how we Americans are apparently all a-holes now while the Asians are apparently selfless - and seriously, how F'ed up is that sentence out of context? Consistent virtue signaling overlayed upon a dynamic environment does no one any good when we should be focused on the current state of affairs, such as hospitalization capacities and the rates of spread in the STL Metro Area. That's what this thread was all about when it was created.
This thread could give an aspirin a headache.
In summation: I'm tired, lethargic, and not always as mentally sharp as I was prior to getting Covid the second time.
Meanwhile, this thread has become comparably exhausting. Can we stick to actual headline news rather than opinion pieces? Can we not have it be about how we Americans are apparently all a-holes now while the Asians are apparently selfless - and seriously, how F'ed up is that sentence out of context? Consistent virtue signaling overlayed upon a dynamic environment does no one any good when we should be focused on the current state of affairs, such as hospitalization capacities and the rates of spread in the STL Metro Area. That's what this thread was all about when it was created.
This thread could give an aspirin a headache.
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I'm explaining how people can protect themselves and each other and giving examples for how it had worked successfully around the world. I would think if anyone can appreciate that, it's the guy who currently can't sleep or think because of COVID.
If you don't want to read useful information about how to be healthy during the COVID pandemic then just don't read the thread? If you only want to read numbers without any context then just bookmark https://covidactnow.org/us/missouri-mo/ ... s=28891766
If you don't want to read useful information about how to be healthy during the COVID pandemic then just don't read the thread? If you only want to read numbers without any context then just bookmark https://covidactnow.org/us/missouri-mo/ ... s=28891766
I think I'll go back to the State of Downtown thread to escape all this bickering.
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Mark, what precautions do you take to protect yourself?
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I wear a KF94 or P100 mask in public, avoid unnecessary indoor excursions, WFH, and switched my daughter to virtual schooling when the local mask mandate was removed. I was pulling her out of school for lunch daily, which was a pain. We stick to outdoor playdates, but my youngest can neither vaccinate nor mask which limits our activities a lot.
I also got an air purifier. I thought I'd build a diy one if one of the kids got sick, but with my allergies I figured I might as well invest in something more permanent.
Some of that is overkill for average people, but I have little unvaccinated kids to insulate. For most people just wearing an N95 around people you don't live with should be sufficient.
The damage done to schoolchildren over the course of the pandemic is going to have an impact on all of us for the rest of our lives. We don't have great testing data yet due to disruptions, but there has been copious reporting on the national teacher shortage which is being driven in no small part by degrading conditions in public schools.
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MarkHaversham wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2022I wear a KF94 or P100 mask in public, avoid unnecessary indoor excursions, WFH, and switched my daughter to virtual schooling when the local mask mandate was removed. I was pulling her out of school for lunch daily, which was a pain. We stick to outdoor playdates, but my youngest can neither vaccinate nor mask which limits our activities a lot.JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2022Mark, what precautions do you take to protect yourself?
I also got an air purifier. I thought I'd build a diy one if one of the kids got sick, but with my allergies I figured I might as well invest in something more permanent.
Some of that is overkill for average people, but I have little unvaccinated kids to insulate. For most people just wearing an N95 around people you don't live with should be sufficient.
My goodness.
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Gone Corp - sorry you got it. Nobody wants it. You tested positive? I think I got it Milan, Italy December 2019. After all the lockdowns and miserableness and WFH and no life and winters I can't tell when I feel or good or bad. I'm unvaccinated. I have no idea what's going on.
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I was told covid was a ploy to get trump out of office and it would disappear after the election.
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I was told that it was a ploy to make Mark Haversham have a nervous breakdown.
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leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑Feb 08, 2022I was told that it was a ploy to make Mark Haversham have a nervous breakdown.
Both basically correct.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Feb 08, 2022I was told covid was a ploy to get trump out of office and it would disappear after the election.
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To be fair, COVID is merely exacerbating poor teaching conditions that have existed since long before the pandemic.Ebsy wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2022The damage done to schoolchildren over the course of the pandemic is going to have an impact on all of us for the rest of our lives. We don't have great testing data yet due to disruptions, but there has been copious reporting on the national teacher shortage which is being driven in no small part by degrading conditions in public schools.
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COVID is really shining a light on a lot of problems with society. The poor school conditions, the private health care system, just-in-time supply chains, skeleton crew corporate workforces with no training, poor working pay and sick leave, rudeness toward retail workers, the role of women, societal atomization... all problems that have been developing for decades but now we've become acutely aware of them.Trololzilla wrote: ↑Feb 08, 2022To be fair, COVID is merely exacerbating poor teaching conditions that have existed since long before the pandemic.Ebsy wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2022The damage done to schoolchildren over the course of the pandemic is going to have an impact on all of us for the rest of our lives. We don't have great testing data yet due to disruptions, but there has been copious reporting on the national teacher shortage which is being driven in no small part by degrading conditions in public schools.
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I'll agree with you there. Also the elevation of those who spout nonsense (Joe Rogan) because they "are just asking questions" or "are not part of the system".MarkHaversham wrote: ↑Feb 08, 2022COVID is really shining a light on a lot of problems with society. The poor school conditions, the private health care system, just-in-time supply chains, skeleton crew corporate workforces with no training, poor working pay and sick leave, rudeness toward retail workers, the role of women, societal atomization... all problems that have been developing for decades but now we've become acutely aware of them.
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The good news is that nothing has permanently broken, just been severely damaged, so we could hypothetically still work on fixing these issues.Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑Feb 08, 2022I'll agree with you there. Also the elevation of those who spout nonsense (Joe Rogan) because they "are just asking questions" or "are not part of the system".MarkHaversham wrote: ↑Feb 08, 2022COVID is really shining a light on a lot of problems with society. The poor school conditions, the private health care system, just-in-time supply chains, skeleton crew corporate workforces with no training, poor working pay and sick leave, rudeness toward retail workers, the role of women, societal atomization... all problems that have been developing for decades but now we've become acutely aware of them.
https://www.jimcollins.com/concepts/Sto ... ncept.html
Seems relevant somehow.“I never lost faith in the end of the story,” he said, when I asked him. “I never doubted not only that I would get out, but also that I would prevail in the end and turn the experience into the defining event of my life, which, in retrospect, I would not trade.”
I didn’t say anything for many minutes, and we continued the slow walk toward the faculty club, Stockdale limping and arc-swinging his stiff leg that had never fully recovered from repeated torture. Finally, after about a hundred meters of silence, I asked, “Who didn’t make it out?”
“Oh, that’s easy,” he said. “The optimists.”
“The optimists? I don’t understand,” I said, now completely confused, given what he’d said a hundred meters earlier.
“The optimists. Oh, they were the ones who said, ‘We’re going to be out by Christmas.’ And Christmas would come, and Christmas would go. Then they’d say, ‘We’re going to be out by Easter.’ And Easter would come, and Easter would go. And then Thanksgiving, and then it would be Christmas again. And they died of a broken heart.”
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I'd be willing to guess the book-burning, cameras in classrooms and parental review of every action inside of school buildings is going to be more detrimental to the teaching profession than anything Covid related. sh*t, after having to do online schooling for months on end, you'd think rational parents would be more empathetic and appreciative of what teachers do, but rational parents aren't the ones making life harder for them.Ebsy wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2022The damage done to schoolchildren over the course of the pandemic is going to have an impact on all of us for the rest of our lives. We don't have great testing data yet due to disruptions, but there has been copious reporting on the national teacher shortage which is being driven in no small part by degrading conditions in public schools.