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PostJan 12, 2022#2701

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chris fuller wrote:India’s Third Wave Is Here. Don’t Fall For the ‘Omicron Is Mild’ Complacency.
https://science.thewire.in/health/india ... mplacency/
What does "don't fall for the 'omicron is mild' complacency" mean?

If a person is fully vaccinated and boosted and always wears a mask when they're in indoor public settings around other people, what more is it that they should they be doing?

Also, if you're vaxxed/boosted, based all presently available data, omicron is mild. That doesn't mean you shouldn't exercise caution or take active steps to avoid getting it, but if you do happen to get it, the good news is that you'll probably only experience a few days of feeling a little crappy and then be OK, as long as you're vaxxed/boosted. There hasn't been a large influx of vaccinated and boosted patients contracting omicron and filling up the hospitals. If you're unvaccinated, it's a different story.
If you frame it as a matter of individual responsibility, there's nothing that anyone can do. The fact that people are going along with framing the issue that way is the problem. I guess the simplest answer is "hold leaders accountable for allowing this to happen". We all live in a society; unless you grow your own food, and pave your own roads, it's not actually sufficient to just get boosted and relax. If you have a stroke and go to the hospital, and there's no space or nurses available for you, it doesn't matter to your health whether the patients overloading the hospital are vaxxed.
chris fuller wrote:Very good read.
Covid Will Become Endemic. The World Must Decide What That Means
https://www.wired.com/story/covid-will- ... publishing
I think we've already decided what it means: we're going to let society teeter on the verge of collapse every January until eventually the whole thing finally topples over. We're almost past the peak of this year's January wave without anyone in charge facing consequences. So, they'll do nothing every year and we'll just live with having to watch our kids at home because 1/3 of their teachers are out sick, maybe an extended blackout when a storm hits and there aren't enough linemen to fix it within a week, maybe a bunch of kids die in a building fire because the firemen are out sick. That sort of thing.

PostJan 12, 2022#2702

leeharveyawesome wrote:
Jan 12, 2022
Hold on, checking for any news or updates I may have missed....

Nope, still no vax requirement or vax test needed to cross the US southern border illegally (roughly 200k per month).

Please correct me if I'm wrong and if I'm correct please explain how this makes any sense.
Do we certify illegal crossings?

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PostJan 12, 2022#2703

MarkHaversham wrote:
Jan 12, 2022
leeharveyawesome wrote:
Jan 12, 2022
Hold on, checking for any news or updates I may have missed....

Nope, still no vax requirement or vax test needed to cross the US southern border illegally (roughly 200k per month).

Please correct me if I'm wrong and if I'm correct please explain how this makes any sense.
Do we certify illegal crossings?
I have no idea. I thought we rounded them up, signed them up for benefits and put them on a bus to Georgia or something. Seems like a good time to administer the vaccine.

I wouldn't care if they dropped the off in my neighborhood totally unvaxxed. Don't care.

Just pointing out hypocrisy.

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PostJan 12, 2022#2704

leeharveyawesome wrote:
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I have no idea. I thought we rounded them up, signed them up for benefits and put them on a bus to Georgia or something. Seems like a good time to administer the vaccine.

I wouldn't care if they dropped the off in my neighborhood totally unvaxxed. Don't care.

Just pointing out hypocrisy.
The last I heard we are still putting them in concentration camps in Texas, probably suffering mass deaths from COVID.

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PostJan 12, 2022#2705

leeharveyawesome wrote:
Jan 12, 2022
Hold on, checking for any news or updates I may have missed....

Nope, still no vax requirement or vax test needed to cross the US southern border illegally (roughly 200k per month).

Please correct me if I'm wrong and if I'm correct please explain how this makes any sense.
None of your posts make sense

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PostJan 13, 2022#2706

Immigration is at historic lows, he must mean that immigrants are proof against the novel coronavirus. Certainly Asian communities in America have been the least effected by severe illness and death.

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PostJan 13, 2022#2707

leeharveyawesome wrote:
Jan 12, 2022
Hold on, checking for any news or updates I may have missed....

Nope, still no vax requirement or vax test needed to cross the US southern border illegally (roughly 200k per month).

Please correct me if I'm wrong and if I'm correct please explain how this makes any sense.
I’ve read a lot of stupid things on the internet so far in 2022 but man this is really something else. Congrats.

When someone crosses improperly, (illegal entry isn’t a thing, it’s improper entry) they are taken to the nearest border station.   Their info is run to see if it a first offense.   If it is they’re fined and walked to the a pedestrian gate and door opens to the Mexico side.      

If it’s a multiple offense, they are referred for persecution.    

If, while in custody and they claim asylum (as allowed by law, go ask your congress person if you don’t like the law to change it) they are given a court date, if they’re assigned to Houston district for example they’re rejected 95% of the time and then walked to the ped gate.  

In any of these examples they are offered a mask, test and vaccine.  Just like any American they aren’t required to take the vaccine

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PostJan 13, 2022#2708

UrbanPlanner2022 wrote:
Jan 13, 2022
leeharveyawesome wrote:
Jan 12, 2022
Hold on, checking for any news or updates I may have missed....

Nope, still no vax requirement or vax test needed to cross the US southern border illegally (roughly 200k per month).

Please correct me if I'm wrong and if I'm correct please explain how this makes any sense.
I’ve read a lot of stupid things on the internet so far in 2022 but man this is really something else. Congrats.

When someone crosses improperly, (illegal entry isn’t a thing, it’s improper entry) they are taken to the nearest border station.   Their info is run to see if it a first offense.   If it is they’re fined and walked to the a pedestrian gate and door opens to the Mexico side.      

If it’s a multiple offense, they are referred for persecution.    

If, while in custody and they claim asylum (as allowed by law, go ask your congress person if you don’t like the law to change it) they are given a court date, if they’re assigned to Houston district for example they’re rejected 95% of the time and then walked to the ped gate.  

In any of these examples they are offered a mask, test and vaccine.  Just like any American they aren’t required to take the vaccine
Thanks for clearing that up.

How does it work if I'm flying into Madrid (vaxxed but not boosted) with a stopover in Dublin?

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PostJan 13, 2022#2709

leeharveyawesome wrote:
Jan 13, 2022
UrbanPlanner2022 wrote:
Jan 13, 2022
leeharveyawesome wrote:
Jan 12, 2022
Hold on, checking for any news or updates I may have missed....

Nope, still no vax requirement or vax test needed to cross the US southern border illegally (roughly 200k per month).

Please correct me if I'm wrong and if I'm correct please explain how this makes any sense.
I’ve read a lot of stupid things on the internet so far in 2022 but man this is really something else. Congrats.

When someone crosses improperly, (illegal entry isn’t a thing, it’s improper entry) they are taken to the nearest border station.   Their info is run to see if it a first offense.   If it is they’re fined and walked to the a pedestrian gate and door opens to the Mexico side.      

If it’s a multiple offense, they are referred for persecution.    

If, while in custody and they claim asylum (as allowed by law, go ask your congress person if you don’t like the law to change it) they are given a court date, if they’re assigned to Houston district for example they’re rejected 95% of the time and then walked to the ped gate.  

In any of these examples they are offered a mask, test and vaccine.  Just like any American they aren’t required to take the vaccine
Thanks for clearing that up.

How does it work if I'm flying into Madrid (vaxxed but not boosted) with a stopover in Dublin?
Not sure but if you are flying into Austria, you’ll need to be boosted if you don’t want to have to do a covid test but upon your return to stateside you’ll need a negative covid test even with booster.

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PostJan 13, 2022#2710

UrbanPlanner2022 wrote:
Jan 13, 2022
If it’s a multiple offense, they are referred for persecution.   
😆 While this is true I think you mean "prosecution".

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PostJan 14, 2022#2711

U.S. Supremes: COVID19 Day-to-Day Danger "No Different...Air Pollution"
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a244_hgci.pdf

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PostJan 14, 2022#2712

A step in the right direction.

NCAA Definition of 'Fully Vaccinated' Now Includes Natural Immunity

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbr ... y-n2601747

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PostJan 14, 2022#2713

*Weren't you moving to Italy or something?

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PostJan 14, 2022#2714

chris fuller wrote:
Jan 14, 2022
U.S. Supremes: COVID19 Day-to-Day Danger "No Different...Air Pollution"
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a244_hgci.pdf
OSHA doesn't regulate workplace air pollution?

Having said that, it's funny that they are banning the vaccines, because by demanding workplace-only solutions SCOTUS is implying a need for measures (HVAC upgrades and providing N95s) that would be much more expensive for employers, which OSHA and CDC have avoided by dancing around saying that COVID is airborne. The funniest result would be if this decision forced OSHA to say "well we can't mandate vaccines so we have to require N95s and HEPA filters at work", but of course what will actually happen is nothing.

PostJan 14, 2022#2715

leeharveyawesome wrote:
Jan 14, 2022
A step in the right direction.

NCAA Definition of 'Fully Vaccinated' Now Includes Natural Immunity

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbr ... y-n2601747
Here's a more robust discussion of the role of natural immunity:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/omicron ... 00558.html

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PostJan 16, 2022#2716

The $500 Covid relief debit cards have been rolling out the last few days. A few of my friends got them. We splurged on a very impressive food spread for the wild card football games today and enough beer to probably last all the way through the Super Bowl.

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PostJan 17, 2022#2717

Taking money that is suppose to go to the poor and bragging about it. What’s the word, coward.

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PostJan 17, 2022#2718

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."

~Frederic Bastiat

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PostJan 17, 2022#2719

leeharveyawesome wrote:
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my friends
😂

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PostJan 17, 2022#2720

I believe almost nothing of what leeharveyawesome says. Best to just ignore

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PostJan 17, 2022#2721

Judging by the numbers provided by the St. Louis Metropolitan Pandemic Task Force we have reached a peak in hospitalization, suggesting that new infections peaked around 2 weeks ago. If we follow the observed pattern from elsewhere, should start to see a rapid decline in cases.

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PostJan 18, 2022#2722

Ebsy wrote:
Jan 17, 2022
Judging by the numbers provided by the St. Louis Metropolitan Pandemic Task Force we have reached a peak in hospitalization, suggesting that new infections peaked around 2 weeks ago. If we follow the observed pattern from elsewhere, should start to see a rapid decline in cases.
This is the likeliest outcome but there are a couple possible alternatives:
- Delta might reappear quickly if cross-variant immunity is low
- Omicron might reinfect quickly enough that the next wave restarts in a few weeks instead of a few months

Be prepared!

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PostJan 18, 2022#2723

USPS.com is offering 4-Count At-Home COVID-19 Tests for Free.
https://special.usps.com/testkits

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PostJan 18, 2022#2724

Bart Harley Jarvis wrote:
Jan 17, 2022
leeharveyawesome wrote:
Jan 16, 2022
my friends
😂
Are you poor shaming me and my minority friends for getting a few cases of beer and a some charcuterie plates and watching American football?

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PostJan 19, 2022#2725

leeharveyawesome wrote:
Jan 18, 2022
Bart Harley Jarvis wrote:
Jan 17, 2022
leeharveyawesome wrote:
Jan 16, 2022
my friends
😂
Are you poor shaming me and my minority friends for getting a few cases of beer and a some charcuterie plates and watching American football?
yep

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