^I get it. Also, while Yugoslavia wasn't a true Soviet satellite state, I don't think most Outstate Missourians in the MOGA would recognize Tito as anything other than their spouse's preferred vodka.
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Hello, expert on Yugoslavia and an actual Bosnian here….
Yugoslavias entire thing was that they were not aligned with USSR and they led the entire non aligned movement. Which is why Yugoslavia had good relations with the west. And Bosnians left after Yugoslavia fell apart and an ethnic war started. That all happened after Tito died and everyone knew it was going to happened when he died because he managed to keep 3 religious glued together from WWII to his death in the 80s. The communist Yugoslavia was much more open then even China is today. My parents had no complaints, Tito’s Yugoslavia was more of a Benevolent dictatorship. He stressed brotherhood and unity and it worked.
Most Bosnians would love to go back to that part of Yugoslavia, it would have been a world power today or at least dominated the World Cup , basketball and at the Olympics- waterpolo, handball (big sport in Europe) and volleyball
“Although Josip Broz Tito led the former Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia as Prime Minister and President (later President for Life) from 1944 until his death in 1980 under what many criticized as authoritarian rule, according to Shapiro he was widely popular and was "seen by most as a benevolent dictator". He was a popular public figure both in Yugoslavia and abroad. Viewed as a unifying symbol, his internal policies maintained the peaceful coexistence of the nations of the Yugoslav federation. The country's economy underwent a period of prosperity under the system of workers' self-management devised by his deputy Edvard Kardelj. Tito gained further international attention as the chief leader of the Non-Aligned Movement”
Yugoslavias entire thing was that they were not aligned with USSR and they led the entire non aligned movement. Which is why Yugoslavia had good relations with the west. And Bosnians left after Yugoslavia fell apart and an ethnic war started. That all happened after Tito died and everyone knew it was going to happened when he died because he managed to keep 3 religious glued together from WWII to his death in the 80s. The communist Yugoslavia was much more open then even China is today. My parents had no complaints, Tito’s Yugoslavia was more of a Benevolent dictatorship. He stressed brotherhood and unity and it worked.
Most Bosnians would love to go back to that part of Yugoslavia, it would have been a world power today or at least dominated the World Cup , basketball and at the Olympics- waterpolo, handball (big sport in Europe) and volleyball
“Although Josip Broz Tito led the former Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia as Prime Minister and President (later President for Life) from 1944 until his death in 1980 under what many criticized as authoritarian rule, according to Shapiro he was widely popular and was "seen by most as a benevolent dictator". He was a popular public figure both in Yugoslavia and abroad. Viewed as a unifying symbol, his internal policies maintained the peaceful coexistence of the nations of the Yugoslav federation. The country's economy underwent a period of prosperity under the system of workers' self-management devised by his deputy Edvard Kardelj. Tito gained further international attention as the chief leader of the Non-Aligned Movement”
I dunno, feels a little too "we'll let you come here (possibly escaping very unfavorable conditions), if you rebuild the city our regional leaders and citizens chose to neglect". Doesn't sit quite right with me.realclear wrote: ↑Jun 16, 2021One program I've thought would be great would be a small scale, EB-5 type visa program for vacant property. An immigrant moves to the US, and they get to stay as long as they improve and maintain a vacant home or building.
^^DB thanks for the correction, my apologies. Read "socialist republic" on Wikipedia, looked at a map, and jumped to conclusions. Shame on me.
Since you're holding yourself out as an expert, any idea how the immigration to StL was organized back in the day, specifically regarding the MO general assembly? Where they more or less of an obstacle, or not a factor at all? Thanks.
Agree with your assertion re world power in soccer; always amazed at how the constituent countries punch well above their weight at every international tournament, including this current one.
Since you're holding yourself out as an expert, any idea how the immigration to StL was organized back in the day, specifically regarding the MO general assembly? Where they more or less of an obstacle, or not a factor at all? Thanks.
Agree with your assertion re world power in soccer; always amazed at how the constituent countries punch well above their weight at every international tournament, including this current one.
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^ states have no say. Obviously the Federal gov will place people in places where the state gov is welcoming but you have to remember until about 5 years ago before one party went batshit insane there was no debate about welcoming immigrants, it was always seen as a positive. One of the reasons the Fed gov choose StL in the 1990s was because of our population decline. No on its face you may say it didn’t work but stl region would be down 100,000 if no Bosnians came and had kids etc
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^Think there was also proactive advocacy for the Bosnian settlement here from the International Institute, right?
(Side note: We're all quite off-topic here, maybe should relocate this conversation. Then again, it's nice not having to talk crime all the time)
(Side note: We're all quite off-topic here, maybe should relocate this conversation. Then again, it's nice not having to talk crime all the time)
Agree, and apologies, but since we're on the topic one quick final question for DB: My recollection of the initial Bosnian influx to the region in the 90's and into the early 2000's was by-and-large in south city. Do you think it's fair to say much of the Bosnian community has more moved to the county and elsewhere since then? That's kind of my gut feeling when comparing areas in south city (Bevo, for example) between then-and-now. Not sure how accurate that is tho. Just curious if you have any insights? Thanks.gone corporate wrote: ↑Jun 17, 2021Side note: We're all quite off-topic here, maybe should relocate this conversation.
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Mass shooting in the Ville. 3 dead and 4 wounded so far.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 4073a.html
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 4073a.html
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more cops? good luck
A survey of almost 200 police departments indicated that retirements were up 45 percent and resignations rose by 18 percent in the year from April 2020 to April 2021 when compared with the previous 12 months, according to the Police Executive Research Forum, a Washington policy institute.
New York City saw 2,600 officers retire in 2020 compared with 1,509 the year before. Resignations in Seattle increased to 123 from 34 and retirements to 96 from 43. Minneapolis, which had 912 uniformed officers in May 2019, is now down to 699. At the same time, many cities are contending with a rise in shootings and homicides.
Asheville was among the hardest hit proportionally, losing upward of 80 officers, more than one third of its 238-strong force.
Why Police Have Been Quitting in Droves in the Last Yearchris fuller wrote: ↑Jun 24, 2021more cops? good luckA survey of almost 200 police departments indicated that retirements were up 45 percent and resignations rose by 18 percent in the year from April 2020 to April 2021 when compared with the previous 12 months, according to the Police Executive Research Forum, a Washington policy institute.
New York City saw 2,600 officers retire in 2020 compared with 1,509 the year before. Resignations in Seattle increased to 123 from 34 and retirements to 96 from 43. Minneapolis, which had 912 uniformed officers in May 2019, is now down to 699. At the same time, many cities are contending with a rise in shootings and homicides.
Asheville was among the hardest hit proportionally, losing upward of 80 officers, more than one third of its 238-strong force.
Not an attorney here, so willing to give the benefit of the doubt. However, this doesn’t bode well for perceptions of Gardner and her management of the CAO.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... op-story-1
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... op-story-1
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^There are a few interesting tidbits that make it sound like a fairly mundane mess, even if the story makes it sound horrid. The original prosecutor assigned to the case was out on maternity leave. Okay, that does happen. Not a lot to be done about that. Finding a replacement right now might be darned tricky, what with Covid keeping people out of the office and the pay being . . . not precisely the best. And at least one of the communications was described as "an e-mail." (Not the notice of a hearing, obviously. Just a casual inquiry about with whom to speak.) I'm no lawyer, but every legal case I've been involved in required written notice, e-mails I get from lawyers, even casual ones, always have huge disclaimers, and we all know how much crap can get lost in spam filters. E-mail simply isn't an entirely reliable line of communication. It's not bad. But it's . . . messy. It's not completely shocking that an e-mail, even one to a lawyer, goes unanswered.
I will gladly grant that this isn't going to play especially well. And it's certainly not a good sign. But it may not be the final sign of the apocalypse either. It certainly sounds like there are some special circumstances at play here, meaning this might not be a good indicator of the way things work ordinarily. Hopefully this leads to some serious discussions. And if it doesn't . . . well, then those perceptions might just be absolutely right.
I will gladly grant that this isn't going to play especially well. And it's certainly not a good sign. But it may not be the final sign of the apocalypse either. It certainly sounds like there are some special circumstances at play here, meaning this might not be a good indicator of the way things work ordinarily. Hopefully this leads to some serious discussions. And if it doesn't . . . well, then those perceptions might just be absolutely right.
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I don’t think so, this is something a CA would be forced to resign over but that’s in pre tribalism era.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑Jul 18, 2021^There are a few interesting tidbits that make it sound like a fairly mundane mess, even if the story makes it sound horrid. The original prosecutor assigned to the case was out on maternity leave. Okay, that does happen. Not a lot to be done about that. Finding a replacement right now might be darned tricky, what with Covid keeping people out of the office and the pay being . . . not precisely the best. And at least one of the communications was described as "an e-mail." (Not the notice of a hearing, obviously. Just a casual inquiry about with whom to speak.) I'm no lawyer, but every legal case I've been involved in required written notice, e-mails I get from lawyers, even casual ones, always have huge disclaimers, and we all know how much crap can get lost in spam filters. E-mail simply isn't an entirely reliable line of communication. It's not bad. But it's . . . messy. It's not completely shocking that an e-mail, even one to a lawyer, goes unanswered.
I will gladly grant that this isn't going to play especially well. And it's certainly not a good sign. But it may not be the final sign of the apocalypse either. It certainly sounds like there are some special circumstances at play here, meaning this might not be a good indicator of the way things work ordinarily. Hopefully this leads to some serious discussions. And if it doesn't . . . well, then those perceptions might just be absolutely right.
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If you're in charge of a department, and someone leaves due to leave or removal, it is their job to review their workload and reassign work to the remaining members of the team. This is management 101. To have the CA fail in this regard for a high profile defendant on a murder 1 charge is a gross dereliction of duty and should be removed or resign due to embarrassment. To add, this defendant had a history of running from the law and to even have him out mere hours is unexplainable. To think what would have happened if this case wasnt forwarded to our newspaper of record . . . .symphonicpoet wrote: ↑Jul 18, 2021^There are a few interesting tidbits that make it sound like a fairly mundane mess, even if the story makes it sound horrid. The original prosecutor assigned to the case was out on maternity leave. Okay, that does happen. Not a lot to be done about that. Finding a replacement right now might be darned tricky, what with Covid keeping people out of the office and the pay being . . . not precisely the best. And at least one of the communications was described as "an e-mail." (Not the notice of a hearing, obviously. Just a casual inquiry about with whom to speak.) I'm no lawyer, but every legal case I've been involved in required written notice, e-mails I get from lawyers, even casual ones, always have huge disclaimers, and we all know how much crap can get lost in spam filters. E-mail simply isn't an entirely reliable line of communication. It's not bad. But it's . . . messy. It's not completely shocking that an e-mail, even one to a lawyer, goes unanswered.
I will gladly grant that this isn't going to play especially well. And it's certainly not a good sign. But it may not be the final sign of the apocalypse either. It certainly sounds like there are some special circumstances at play here, meaning this might not be a good indicator of the way things work ordinarily. Hopefully this leads to some serious discussions. And if it doesn't . . . well, then those perceptions might just be absolutely right.
KSDK getting in on the action of exposing Gardner. And PD dropped an editorial about her incompetence.
It's good to see that there is finally some light being shined on how dysfunctional her office is. Sadly, I don't think anything is going to change. Patiently waiting for Tony Messenger to parachute in from the clouds and write an article about how biased everyone is.
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/inves ... ee93548b64
https://www.stltoday.com/opinion/editor ... 10431.html
It's good to see that there is finally some light being shined on how dysfunctional her office is. Sadly, I don't think anything is going to change. Patiently waiting for Tony Messenger to parachute in from the clouds and write an article about how biased everyone is.
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/inves ... ee93548b64
https://www.stltoday.com/opinion/editor ... 10431.html
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Honestly, I think she should resign following this news. This is entirely unacceptable.
Three blown cases in one week, one of which involving three separate no-shows from her department; multiple cases given to a prosecutor out on maternity leave; multiple failures to properly respond to emails or to the court; stating in her public excuse that one of the accused was in custody when they were not in custody, and in fact remain at large.
This is egregious ineptitude. This is a failure of responsibility, accountability, and leadership.
Three blown cases in one week, one of which involving three separate no-shows from her department; multiple cases given to a prosecutor out on maternity leave; multiple failures to properly respond to emails or to the court; stating in her public excuse that one of the accused was in custody when they were not in custody, and in fact remain at large.
This is egregious ineptitude. This is a failure of responsibility, accountability, and leadership.
Gardner will never resign unless she is disbarred.jbacott wrote: ↑Jul 21, 2021KSDK getting in on the action of exposing Gardner. And PD dropped an editorial about her incompetence.
It's good to see that there is finally some light being shined on how dysfunctional her office is. Sadly, I don't think anything is going to change. Patiently waiting for Tony Messenger to parachute in from the clouds and write an article about how biased everyone is.
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/inves ... ee93548b64
https://www.stltoday.com/opinion/editor ... 10431.html
She will continue to wield the racism charge to coerce, deflect, dissemble, and garner the support of powerful political players and useful idiots on the national level.
Even in these articles, the media pretends there is no elephant in the room. Dysfunction, incompetence, apathy, and chaos in urban prosecutors' offices were goals, not unintended consequences of inept management.
I'm not gonna defend Gardner's incompetence in this particular situation, but it's a fallacy that rising violent crime rates across the country are primarily attributable to progressive prosecutors being elected in a lot of major cities. Murders are going up everywhere, even the places with the most "tough on crime" hardline prosecutors running the show...urbanitas wrote: ↑Jul 21, 2021Gardner will never resign unless she is disbarred.jbacott wrote: ↑Jul 21, 2021KSDK getting in on the action of exposing Gardner. And PD dropped an editorial about her incompetence.
It's good to see that there is finally some light being shined on how dysfunctional her office is. Sadly, I don't think anything is going to change. Patiently waiting for Tony Messenger to parachute in from the clouds and write an article about how biased everyone is.
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/inves ... ee93548b64
https://www.stltoday.com/opinion/editor ... 10431.html
She will continue to wield the racism charge to coerce, deflect, dissemble, and garner the support of powerful political players and useful idiots on the national level.
Even in these articles, the media pretends there is no elephant in the room. Dysfunction, incompetence, apathy, and chaos in urban prosecutors' offices were goals, not unintended consequences of inept management.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... osecutors/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... n-violenceUltimately, the case against Boudin rests on two assumptions: that crime in the city has exploded and that Boudin isn’t charging people at the rate his predecessors did. And neither of those assumptions is true. There’s also little evidence that progressive policies such as ending cash bail or refusing to charge low-level offenses have anything to do with the spike in violence nationwide. The 2020 figures are expected to show a homicide surge coast to coast, in rural areas and urban areas, in jurisdictions with both reform-minded radicals and law-and-order stalwarts in the DA’s chair.
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I believe Springfield Missouri set a record for homicides last year
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^^ yeah, Gardner's incompetence aside, Missouri's gun problems have been growing steadily since MO Republicans started dismantling gun regulations around 2007. Gardner's 3 and a half years in office are a drop in the bucket compared the disaster they've created over the last 15.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/22/heal ... lings.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/22/heal ... lings.html
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A complete mess on all accounts from Gardner to the Mayor's office at current.
I sincerely hope those ignoring Gardner's clear incompetence that has been on broad display since virtually the start of her tenure are evaluating their opinions and decision making processes.
She has no concern for the citizens that elected her and will not resign, she already would have if she did. Here is to hoping the decision is taken out of her hands sooner rather than later.
I sincerely hope those ignoring Gardner's clear incompetence that has been on broad display since virtually the start of her tenure are evaluating their opinions and decision making processes.
She has no concern for the citizens that elected her and will not resign, she already would have if she did. Here is to hoping the decision is taken out of her hands sooner rather than later.
Most recent reporting states that although the charges were refiled, the perp is now at large despite the CAO lying that he was still in custody, when in fact, he was not. Shameful and disgusting behavior towards the victim's family. Blatant smack in the face.