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PostFeb 05, 2021#1326

That was a problem when I worked there for a short time. I thought it would've been resolved once the garage facade was complete. I guess not.

Add that to the list of problems this building has that needs addressing. 
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PostFeb 05, 2021#1327

^What else is on the list? 
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PostFeb 05, 2021#1328

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^What else is on the list? 
When I was there...
  • Elevators had electrical issues. They'd stop working and would stop on a random floor and not open, prompting calls to the desk. Then they'd turn back on and open up on a random floor. Sometimes, they just wouldn't respond for a little while either. I was told that this was caused by a water pipe breaking prior to the building's occupancy permits being issued for the first residential tier or so.
  • Security cameras were overloaded and froze constantly leaving people at the front desk "blinded" as to what was going on outside the property and in the parking garage.
  • Parking garage gates on West Pine got stuck shut and stuck open often, prompting front desk employees to leave their position and walk down there to manually shut or open the gate.
  • When I was there, lights would flicker in the lobby often or become really dim for no reason. When this would happen, the building alarm would go off and prompt me to go shut it off at the request of the maintenance guy on site.
Throw those into the mix with the parking garage screen issue, then there's 5 problems. I imagine, and hope, some of those things have been fixed by now since it's been 4 months since I was last there.

Edit: One more issue from when I was there: USPS wouldn't serve the building upon opening. Residents had to go to the post office on Laclede between Sarah and Vandeventer to get their mail. They couldn't even drop off a letter at 100 and expect it to be picked up. But Amazon, FedEx, and UPS could drop off packages,

PostFeb 05, 2021#1329

And if you all want to know the truth about it, while I like the building and think it's pretty cool, I just don't see the building quality holding up. It's going to take a beating once it gets full, and if it gets full. It's your standard apartment building with an "eye-catching" design and nothing more.

Throw in the high rents, building issues, and other things that just didn't look right and I can't see how the rent is justified here. I appreciate that Mac did something cool, but man were corners cut that if they weren't cut, this building would've been 100%.  I don't know who to blame for that. Being the most prestigious apartment building in the City, and even region, and to have the issues they had among other things was disappointing. I heard it from many of the early residents who were upset by many things. Biggest issue they had was the elevator issue (but I imagine that has been fixed). Other renters thought it was strange that they're spending so many thousands of dollars per month and have to spend additional money on a parking space and what not.

Some of the apartments in the building just seem too small for practicality, especially the Studio units which are literally Micro in size. If you were expecting units to be ultra high luxury, throw that expectation out. The units didn't feel much different than a cheaper apartment elsewhere in the City with newer cabinets, appliances and flooring. You're paying for the view here and that's it.

Just putting this out there, if you have the money to rent at this building and insist on it, definitely go for the units facing the City on floors 14 and up. They definitely offer an amazing view. But this just isn't a property I would recommend to any of my friends or family. There are better options out there, including the main competitor in the City (One Cardinal Way).

Finally, and I'm not the one to judge anyone but I'll put this out there anyway, you're better off buying a condo or house for the amount of rent you'll be paying here. You'll get more, be able to stay longer and make updates to your residence whenever you'd like. In a house or condo, you may even be able to rent out a room for an Airbnb to make some money (which 100 does not allow). So either go and burn money in the fire pit or at 100 or invest it into a house or condo that, if you play the game right, will gain value overtime.

I almost guarantee that if the Kingshighway and Lindell lot is developed by the Koplar Family and someone else one day, and they take the build quality issues and complaints to heart and plan ahead, they can leapfrog past 100 Above the Park and blow the leasing numbers out of the water. I believe that the market and customer-base for a high-end luxury apartment building overlooking Forest Park and the Central Corridor is there, just 100 Above the Park isn't it.
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PostFeb 05, 2021#1330

Interesting. Thanks for the additional color. Not entirely surprising that a project of its scale would have some initial hiccups/growing pains, and some of those items definitely seem addressable, but disappointing to hear nonetheless. 
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PostFeb 06, 2021#1331

Even a tower filled with billionaires has problems....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... k.amp.html
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PostFeb 06, 2021#1332

^ I was gonna say it sounds like literally every “luxury” building on the planet.

I lived in a building in KC that was built in the 70s or 80s and random fire alarms, stuck elevators, homeless people rampaging around the lobby (among dozens of other issues, like chemical floods) were routine issues.  Never mind the frequent crimes and shootings in the general area...

What we were getting here was the staritect and the design.  Everything else described here fits right in with modern building design.

Parking was always extra at any apartment I ever lived in though...even when it was onsite (usually included in the rent but a separate line item) not sure why they’d b**** about that.  That seems pretty standard.

For what it’s worth I live in a nice place in the Moorlands that would be comparable in rent to one of the smaller units here...I came home a week ago today and found a f*cking squirrel in my apartment.  Pissed all over my counter, day planner, desk, etc.

It’s called apartment living...you’re right...a house or condo would be much better.  PM me if you wanna help me make a down payment.
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PostFeb 06, 2021#1333

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Even a tower filled with billionaires has problems....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... k.amp.html
One of the worst U.S. examples: After sinking 18 inches, SF's Millennium Tower finally has a fix 
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PostFeb 06, 2021#1334

The Broadway in Columbia had some similar problems when we were working on it: The elevators stopped randomly all the time. You started to expect it. There was a water line break that soaked the bottom three or four floors and caused untold headaches getting the plaster fixed, carpets dried, and electrical sorted back out. It shorted out light fixtures and some of our speakers. It was sheer luck it happened BEFORE the building opened and not after. And we were sorting out teething problems for probably six months after. That's kind of just life in a new building. The luxury suites at Faurot had similar issues. The fire alarms would go off randomly. Actually, we had that problem at Jesse Auditorium after they updated the fire alarms in the 90s. The building itself was fairly reliable. (Or at least the quirks were well known.) But it took a while to get the smoke detectors adjusted properly so they didn't go off every other night. (Leading to full blown fire department responses, I might add. From minor construction dust or someone smoking a single cigarette in a palatial men's room. You want 'em to go off. But you also don't want 'em giving false alarms quite so regularly.)

I don't want to minimize the problems. They're issues and need to be dealt with. But every new building I've ever seen has had some teething problems. Even the good ones. Punchlist items. It's just . . . life. Fix it and move on.
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PostFeb 06, 2021#1335

The nearly 1,400-foot tower at 432 Park Avenue, briefly the tallest residential building in the world, was the pinnacle of New York’s luxury condo boom half a decade ago, fueled largely by foreign buyers seeking discretion and big returns.

Six years later, residents of the exclusive tower are now at odds with the developers, and each other, making clear that even multimillion-dollar price tags do not guarantee problem-free living. The claims include millions of dollars of water damage from plumbing and mechanical issues; frequent elevator malfunctions; and walls that creak like the galley of a ship — all of which may be connected to the building’s main selling point: its immense height, according to homeowners, engineers and documents obtained by The New York Times.

Less than a decade after a spate of record-breaking condo towers reached new heights in New York, the first reports of defects and complaints are beginning to emerge, raising concerns that some of the construction methods and materials used have not lived up to the engineering breakthroughs that only recently enabled 1,000-foot-high trophy apartments. Engineers privy to some of the disputes say many of the same issues are occurring quietly in other new towers.
ImageThe tower at 432 Park Avenue, far left, became the tallest residential building in the world in 2015. It has already been surpassed by a newcomer on New York’s Billionaire’s Row in Midtown Manhattan, but it remains one of the most expensive apartment buildings in the world.
The tower at 432 Park Avenue, far left, became the tallest residential building in the world in 2015. It has already been surpassed by a newcomer on New York’s Billionaire’s Row in Midtown Manhattan, but it remains one of the most expensive apartment buildings in the world.Credit...Karsten Moran for The New York Times

The disputes at 432 Park also highlight a rarely seen view of New York’s so-called Billionaire’s Row, a stretch of supertall towers near Central Park that redefined the city skyline, and where the identities of virtually all the buyers were concealed by shell companies.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/03/real ... -park.html
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PostFeb 06, 2021#1336

I'd be pissed if I spent many many millions of dollars on one of the fancy condos at Millennium Tower and 432 Park Avenue only to have the problems they're having. More so than 100 because at least at 100 you can leave after a year, or under certain circumstances, break your lease (like a few did when I was there).

I understand that these issues are not unique to 100, and I'm sure One Cardinal Way and other new buildings have some issues, but I find the issues at 100 embarrassing. Most prestigious building in the Metro Area, yet feels rushed and sterile. 

With my ranting done, according to the property website: 223 units of 306 remain. Roughly 28% leased.

@sc4mayor sorry to hear about the unwanted squirrel guest in your apartment. Hopefully your issue was resolved in a short amount of time. That happened to my aunt twice now and she lives in an older apartment building on the 3rd floor. Samson Group manages her apartment and it took them 2.5 weeks to even send someone out to repair the hole created by the squirrel. So my dad and I had to board up the hole ourselves. I assume that's a very common issue in older buildings that are at the same level as trees. I believe that the blame for squirrels getting in could fall on maintenance since there are weak spots, or even holes, into the "attic" spaces of some older buildings that are overlooked by maintenance. It can be an easy fix, but it's a problem that I don't think many expect. In older buildings, I'm more ok with things like that happening, water issues, and electrical since those are problems that come with building age. They're something I do NOT expect to happen in the newest buildings.
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I'd be pissed if I spent many many millions of dollars on one of the fancy condos at Millennium Tower and 432 Park Avenue only to have the problems they're having. More so than 100 because at least at 100 you can leave after a year, or under certain circumstances, break your lease (like a few did when I was there).

I understand that these issues are not unique to 100, and I'm sure One Cardinal Way and other new buildings have some issues, but I find the issues at 100 embarrassing. Most prestigious building in the Metro Area, yet feels rushed and sterile. 

With my ranting done, according to the property website: 223 units of 306 remain. Roughly 28% leased.

@sc4mayor sorry to hear about the unwanted squirrel guest in your apartment. Hopefully your issue was resolved in a short amount of time. That happened to my aunt twice now and she lives in an older apartment building on the 3rd floor. Samson Group manages her apartment and it took them 2.5 weeks to even send someone out to repair the hole created by the squirrel. So my dad and I had to board up the hole ourselves. I assume that's a very common issue in older buildings that are at the same level as trees. I believe that the blame for squirrels getting in could fall on maintenance since there are weak spots, or even holes, into the "attic" spaces of some older buildings that are overlooked by maintenance. It can be an easy fix, but it's a problem that I don't think many expect. In older buildings, I'm more ok with things like that happening, water issues, and electrical since those are problems that come with building age. They're something I do NOT expect to happen in the newest buildings.
Appreciate it, Chris. We (my landlord and I) got him out...really more of a funny story than anything haha. Definitely a first for me though!
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PostFeb 06, 2021#1338

chriss752 wrote: ↑
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I'd be pissed if I spent many many millions of dollars on one of the fancy condos at Millennium Tower and 432 Park Avenue only to have the problems they're having. More so than 100 because at least at 100 you can leave after a year, or under certain circumstances, break your lease (like a few did when I was there).

I understand that these issues are not unique to 100, and I'm sure One Cardinal Way and other new buildings have some issues, but I find the issues at 100 embarrassing. Most prestigious building in the Metro Area, yet feels rushed and sterile. 

With my ranting done, according to the property website: 223 units of 306 remain. Roughly 28% leased.

@sc4mayor sorry to hear about the unwanted squirrel guest in your apartment. Hopefully your issue was resolved in a short amount of time. That happened to my aunt twice now and she lives in an older apartment building on the 3rd floor. Samson Group manages her apartment and it took them 2.5 weeks to even send someone out to repair the hole created by the squirrel. So my dad and I had to board up the hole ourselves. I assume that's a very common issue in older buildings that are at the same level as trees. I believe that the blame for squirrels getting in could fall on maintenance since there are weak spots, or even holes, into the "attic" spaces of some older buildings that are overlooked by maintenance. It can be an easy fix, but it's a problem that I don't think many expect. In older buildings, I'm more ok with things like that happening, water issues, and electrical since those are problems that come with building age. They're something I do NOT expect to happen in the newest buildings.
Ha, be glad it's just a squirrel. Two separate neighbors of mine had raccoon families living in their attics.

I watched a very large, possibly pregnant, raccoon shimmy up a 3-story aluminum downspout and crawl into a seemingly too-small hole in the soffit one night. Apparently, she/they eventually found a nice, cozy closet to raise the kids.
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PostMar 13, 2021#1339

The shoddy-looking vertical strips enclosing the garage floors (which compliment the equally shoddy- looking cladding on the upper floors) undulate, dance, and vibrate in quite striking patterns when the wind is at the right angle.  The cladding contractor has lift equipment permanently stationed on the Koplar lot, and repairs go on-and-on each day.  The years will not be kind.

On a positive note the strips are an improvement over the pug-ugly cinder block wall on the east garage facade.  An insult to the entire neighborhood!
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PostMar 15, 2021#1340

They appear to have passed the 100 mark on leased units. I count 105 on their website, but I think a couple of those are staged showcase units. 
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PostMar 15, 2021#1341

wabash wrote:They appear to have passed the 100 mark on leased units. I count 105 on their website, but I think a couple of those are staged showcase units. 
That's great to hear. I'm really rooting for their success and subsequent future towers.

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PostMar 15, 2021#1342

Over 100 units leased.  Over half of their available parking spots leased?
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PostMar 19, 2021#1343

Some of the photos on Clayco's site for this project are pretty amazing: 


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PostMar 19, 2021#1344

I think that first one is going to be my new screensaver on my desktop!


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PostMar 28, 2021#1345

Their website shows 220 apartments of 316 available. 30% leased.

The parking garage spaces are also being rented out to residents of the Parc Frontenac building, so that's why those are filling up more.

Also, the Pilates studio on the first floor here now has signage up. 
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PostMar 28, 2021#1346

^ You meant 30% available. Good #s, hope we see this fill up soon.

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Some of the photos on Clayco's site for this project are pretty amazing: 

Love the image on the right, almost looks like a rendering rather than an actual picture.
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PostMar 28, 2021#1348

pdm_ad wrote:^ You meant 30% available. Good #s, hope we see this fill up soon.
No. Only 96 units are leased which equals to 30%. 70% is available.
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PostMar 28, 2021#1349

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pdm_ad wrote:^ You meant 30% available. Good #s, hope we see this fill up soon.
No. Only 96 units are leased which equals to 30%. 70% is available.
I'm seeing 114 units as unavailable on their website - although I think a couple of those are show units. Leasing definitely seems to be picking up. Which makes sense given the weather and vaccinations. 
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PostMar 28, 2021#1350

chriss752 wrote: ↑
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pdm_ad wrote:^ You meant 30% available. Good #s, hope we see this fill up soon.
No. Only 96 units are leased which equals to 30%. 70% is available.
Yeah I completely misread that. Well that is a bit disappointing so far though not completely unexpected considering what's happened over the last year.
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