Here is a clear rendering of the new 1400 Tower Grove (Missouri Foundation for Health) building. It's 10MB and you can zoom way in and see some details that we couldn't before. I look forward to seeing this complete.
I enjoy the euro-spec cars complete with German license plates, but somebody sat on that Evoque - it's a bit squished:
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We bought an Evoque back in August. Really like its low profile and compactness. Makes for a better city SUV (if there is such a thing).rbb wrote:I enjoy the euro-spec cars complete with German license plates, but somebody sat on that Evoque - it's a bit squished:
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You're right. The storefront details show a real effort towards historic appeal. Hope the final product looks good.chriss752 wrote: ↑Oct 10, 2020Here is a clear rendering of the new 1400 Tower Grove (Missouri Foundation for Health) building. It's 10MB and you can zoom way in and see some details that we couldn't before. I look forward to seeing this complete.
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Unfortunately this is just a temporary stabilization of that street facing wall so it doesn't collapse. There are no building permits submitted for this building, and after the fire a few years ago it can't be in great shape. This one may get demo'd if the owner doesn't get it stabilized quickly.
The entire facade along Vandeventer is now stabilized like this. And still no permits submitted that I can find.Laife Fulk wrote: ↑Oct 24, 2020Unfortunately this is just a temporary stabilization of that street facing wall so it doesn't collapse. There are no building permits submitted for this building, and after the fire a few years ago it can't be in great shape. This one may get demo'd if the owner doesn't get it stabilized quickly.
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Not that this means anything, but I saw an STL Water truck and some other people poking around the Liberty Bell site last last week.
The day has finally come. If there's one good thing to come out of COVID, it's that it has put Drury in a position to put the houses along Kingshighway up for sale.
Frantically checking Savoy's site for listings... https://savoyproperties.com/available-properties/
Frantically checking Savoy's site for listings... https://savoyproperties.com/available-properties/
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^ this puts a smile on my face! I hope they are scooped up by a developer who cares about the city (Garcia, I'm looking at you). Being so close to the Grove, Park, and CWE, it seems like a worthwhile investment. That being said, their location fronting a major street could lead to some major problems. I wonder if we'll ever see a Kingshighway road diet.
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BRT, BRT, BRT!Elek.borrelli wrote:^ this puts a smile on my face! I hope they are scooped up by a developer who cares about the city (Garcia, I'm looking at you). Being so close to the Grove, Park, and CWE, it seems like a worthwhile investment. That being said, their location fronting a major street could lead to some major problems. I wonder if we'll ever see a Kingshighway road diet.
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This land likely won't last too long in an environment where developers are scooping up industrial areas for dense multifamily. This is about as close to the CWE as you can get.
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I wonder if we could see a median/tram station like the one pictured but for a BRT line. Widen the sidewalks, add curb bump-outs at lights, and slow traffic by reducing lanes while adding a designated lane for the BRT. When I visited Budapest, I lived on an avenue about as wide as Kingshighway at the park, but it was easy to cross due to something similar.
OMG, those houses were one of the things that shocked me the most when we first moved to STL and were driving around looking for places to move.
Renovate those old charmers (residential, airbnb or even small office or co-working spaces)
Trees in the tree-lawn
On-street parking and bump-outs at intersections.
Trees in the tree-lawn
On-street parking and bump-outs at intersections.
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I just am not sure that's the most optimal use of the land. Also not sure if you've seen the backs of these properties. They're completely open and falling apart in some cases. The best renovation could probably only save some of the facade.imran wrote:Renovate those old charmers (residential, airbnb or even small office or co-working spaces)
Trees in the tree-lawn
On-street parking and bump-outs at intersections.
That being said, I wouldn't want to have my home or apartment facing kingshifhway at this stretch. It's terribly busy and loud. I think some higher density proposal, office, or commercial would be better suited here. They're also outside of the blocked off residential streets, making little connectiom to the residential part of the neighborhood.
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^ I'd be a fan of multistory residential going in here, stretching across the length of these buildings. If they do so, they should cap their height at maybe 4 stories and absolutely have the exterior facing Kingshighway taking the colors of the existing buildings, i.e. blocks of different shades of brick representing the individual buildings that are there today. Even if the existing buildings can't be redeveloped because of decay, they can still be represented going forward. It'd look pretty cool and give a nod to the neighborhood's history. Developers also could connect the rear of this site footprint to Oakland east of Kingshighway, pushing the current street barriers back so this new hypothetical building's residents could get access to it by car.
Sure beats a big hotel going into this specific site.
Also makes me think that Drury is re-prioritizing projects and in doing so raising some capital. I'm looking at you, Downtown Pear Tree Inn...
Sure beats a big hotel going into this specific site.
Also makes me think that Drury is re-prioritizing projects and in doing so raising some capital. I'm looking at you, Downtown Pear Tree Inn...
Worst shape buildings have been brought back with stunning success. Rather than turning away from busy streets, residential development needs to reclaim humanity and engage with them. I grew up in a city of 20 million people , I would live on Kingshighway in a heartbeat. Depends on your life experience I guess...brianadler6545 wrote: ↑Dec 04, 2020I just am not sure that's the most optimal use of the land. Also not sure if you've seen the backs of these properties. They're completely open and falling apart in some cases. The best renovation could probably only save some of the facade.imran wrote:Renovate those old charmers (residential, airbnb or even small office or co-working spaces)
Trees in the tree-lawn
On-street parking and bump-outs at intersections.
That being said, I wouldn't want to have my home or apartment facing kingshifhway at this stretch. It's terribly busy and loud. I think some higher density proposal, office, or commercial would be better suited here. They're also outside of the blocked off residential streets, making little connectiom to the residential part of the neighborhood.
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^^ Love the graphic, Imran! As someone who lives just off of two major arteries, road noise is something you get used to pretty quickly.
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I think this would be a good opportunity to reopen and realign Oakland so that both sides of Kingshighway connect at an intersection. The Grove feels cutoff from the west right now, and I think that could help. Granted, you'd have to demolish a building or two to make it work.