^Are they insinuating that that's how long we'll have to wait for something to happen at 4101 Manchester?
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I don't think so. Different developers, and this is part of a large multiphase, multi development plan for these blocks.
Yes, and unfortunately, the experienced and busy developers mentioned in the Tweet above wanted to redevelop 4101 Manchester, but the LCRA chose a very inexperienced developer instead, for some reason...Laife Fulk wrote: ↑Sep 17, 2020I don't think so. Different developers, and this is part of a large multiphase, multi development plan for these blocks.
Something I’m curious about is if this is the first of several apartment projects south of manchester in FPSE. I recall that Green Street had plans for several apartment buildings around there, does anyone know if the others are still in the works?
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I have heard there are 7 still in the works south of Manchester.
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According to the SLDC Planroom, in addition to the Swan Street project, bid packages for all of the following are noted as "Pending" for Green Street Building Group, and plans are available:PeterXCV wrote: ↑Sep 18, 2020Something I’m curious about is if this is the first of several apartment projects south of manchester in FPSE. I recall that Green Street had plans for several apartment buildings around there, does anyone know if the others are still in the works?
Location:
Site1 – 4402 Vista Avenue, St. Louis, MO 63110
Site 2 -4401 Vista Avenue, St. Louis, Missouri 63110
Site4– 4420-4434 Norfolk Avenue, St. Louis, Missouri 63110
Site5– 4449-4467 Vista Avenue, St. Louis, Missouri 63110
Site6-4478-4492 Vista Avenue, St. Louis, Missouri 63110
Site7-4449-4461 Hunt Avenue, St. Louis, Missouri 63110
Sites1 & 2- 3 story apartment building with apartments on all floors and covered open garage at the ground level. Rooftop deck at 2nd floor. Select units at 2nd and 3rd levels have exterior balconies.
Site4& 5 – 2 story apartment building with parking pad on the alley side connected through the backyard. Units on 1st level have a private patio. Units on 2nd level have a private balcony.
Site6& 7 – 4 story apartment buildings with apartments on all floors and covered open parking garage at the ground level. Rooftop deck at 4th floor. Select units at all levels have exterior balconies.
That's Mister Mr. Mister to you, Mister.walker wrote: ↑Sep 18, 2020nice mister
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The sites 1-7 were recently surveyed too. Stakes are in the ground identifying property boundaries.
600 VANDEVENTER LLC C/O CT CORP SYST with address in Clayton owns 600, 608-10, and 618. Maybe they've got something cooking.
IIRC, this is part of Green Street’s vision for Vandeventer that also includes Rockwell Brewing and Liberty Bellquincunx wrote:600 VANDEVENTER LLC C/O CT CORP SYST with address in Clayton owns 600, 608-10, and 618. Maybe they've got something cooking.
That place always struck me as the kind of unlikely structure that model railroaders squeeze into the tight spots.
@chriss752 - you've mentioned "Green Street's vision" a few times over the years. Can you (or somebody else) fill me in?
The only formalized vision I'm familiar with that includes Vandeventer is the Forest Park Southeast neighborhood vision prepared by H3 Studio in 2015 for PCD. Five years in, it's exceptionally on track for most of the neighborhood.
Regarding the vision for Vandeventer specifically:
A second brewery was supposed to make a claim along Vandeventer. COVID stopped that.
Last year Recess STL said their permanent location would be along Vandeventer. They're expected to announce their new location in the next couple of days.
Liberty Bell building is expected to be residential.
IIRC, a medical marijuana facility will be on Vandeventer closer to Hunt.
Gossip. Fun!
The only formalized vision I'm familiar with that includes Vandeventer is the Forest Park Southeast neighborhood vision prepared by H3 Studio in 2015 for PCD. Five years in, it's exceptionally on track for most of the neighborhood.
Regarding the vision for Vandeventer specifically:
- The visioned and preferred street improvement is a little bit of a miss. The Cortex-Tower Grove Connecter, however, greatly improves what's presented in the vision.
- There's a "Vandeventer South" vision. There's a ways to go before that design vision can be evaluated.
A second brewery was supposed to make a claim along Vandeventer. COVID stopped that.
Last year Recess STL said their permanent location would be along Vandeventer. They're expected to announce their new location in the next couple of days.
Liberty Bell building is expected to be residential.
IIRC, a medical marijuana facility will be on Vandeventer closer to Hunt.
Gossip. Fun!
I recall the vision for Vandeventer being talked about by the head of Green Street at an event in Cortex in Spring 2019. Phil Hulse was talking about that. He has a map up on the screen showing parcels, that were highlighted, showing where projects go.doellingd wrote:@chriss752 - you've mentioned "Green Street's vision" a few times over the years. Can you (or somebody else) fill me in?
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At some point, we'll have to start looping in McRee with Vandeventer. I've heard the "visioning" extends all the way down Vandeventer and into McRee where the Bar K project is being developed.
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^Have any plans included a pedestrian bridge over the train tracks to link the two areas?
I've asked twice but never received a response. Would hope that answer is a yes.Black02AltimaSE wrote: ↑Oct 01, 2020^Have any plans included a pedestrian bridge over the train tracks to link the two areas?
Tower Grove Ave. from the Garden to the Grove is really starting to impress.
Missouri Foundation for Health's replacement corner building is going up. Steel frame.
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I took a short walk around the Grove today to get some pictures of projects...
4143 Manchester (Everest Bar expansion + 6 apartments)...
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4440 Manchester has structural steel being assembled on the first floor...
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Green Street Swan (Terra in the Grove): The site is leveled.
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New house on Swan east of Taylor...
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New row homes on Swan just west of Tower Grove...
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Some houses on Hunt being renovated and expanded...
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The Dogwood...
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Foundation for Health building....
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4143 Manchester (Everest Bar expansion + 6 apartments)...
4440 Manchester has structural steel being assembled on the first floor...
Green Street Swan (Terra in the Grove): The site is leveled.
New house on Swan east of Taylor...
New row homes on Swan just west of Tower Grove...
Some houses on Hunt being renovated and expanded...
The Dogwood...
Foundation for Health building....
Those new brick row houses on Swan look great. I love all the modern infill, but it's good to see some good old-style brickwork mixed in too.
