Balkan Treat Box was featured on KETCs Food Is Love. Looks like a great place.
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New study shows mask mandates in St. Louis, St. Louis County drastically reduced virus spread:
Well deserved to both of them!BellaVilla wrote: ↑Nov 18, 2020Indo and Balkan Treat Box make Esquire's list of the 23 best new restaurants in the country.
https://www.esquire.com/food-drink/rest ... rica-2020/
Not sure if this belongs here, but this post on Facebook claims St. Louis is the City that smokes the most in the nation. I thought that was an interesting thing.
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I'm actually pretty surprised. I haven't really noticed a difference here.chriss752 wrote:Not sure if this belongs here, but this post on Facebook claims St. Louis is the City that smokes the most in the nation. I thought that was an interesting thing.
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Since moving to St. Louis, I have done a little work in North City.
It seems the residents up there smoke quite a bit more than in South City, where I live.
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It seems the residents up there smoke quite a bit more than in South City, where I live.
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I call BS, we always comment how few people smoke out here. Try spending time in Buffalo/NYS, Wisconsin, Michigan. PA.
My money says they’re just looking at the city’s per-capita rates which like everything else makes St. Louis look more extreme than it really is.
When in reality smoking probably isn’t any more or less prevalent here than in any other large city.
When in reality smoking probably isn’t any more or less prevalent here than in any other large city.
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STL metro in Washington Post and not for a good reason. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... ronavirus/
Francois County public health director on receiving threats from coronavirus deniers - “This job is nonpartisan. I’m not political in any way. I go off of facts and evidence-based science, and right now, all the data in Missouri is scary bad.”
Francois County public health director on receiving threats from coronavirus deniers - “This job is nonpartisan. I’m not political in any way. I go off of facts and evidence-based science, and right now, all the data in Missouri is scary bad.”
What an embarrassment the people and the government of this state aredbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Nov 19, 2020STL metro in Washington Post and not for a good reason. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... ronavirus/
Francois County public health director on receiving threats from coronavirus deniers - “This job is nonpartisan. I’m not political in any way. I go off of facts and evidence-based science, and right now, all the data in Missouri is scary bad.”
Jon Hamm and Michael Sheen teaching St. Louis and Welsh slang (it sounds more fun than it is).
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I truly don't understand why St. Louisans think the "what high school question" is unique to the STL region. (It's probably self-perpetuating at this point) It's a common question with any area large enough to support more than one high school in close proximity to one another. Hell, in my city of 35k, there are 2 high schools and people ask which one you went to.framer wrote: ↑Nov 19, 2020Jon Hamm and Michael Sheen teaching St. Louis and Welsh slang (it sounds more fun than it is).
Also, "hoosier" should have been on there in lieu of "bootheel"
Newsweek is a shell of what it used to be...and I think we all know most of these lists are bogus, but they seem to think WUSTL is the best university in the Midwest:
https://www.newsweek.com/best-colleges- ... gs-1545547
https://www.newsweek.com/best-colleges- ... gs-1545547
I would venture to guess they're probably pretty close here though. I would put the University of Chicago (and maybe even Northwestern) above WUSTL, but aside from those two does WUSTL really have any other real peers in the Midwest?Of all the great schools in the Midwest, Washington University stands out because it checks off so many of the boxes that most students care about. According to U.S. News and World Report, it's one of the top 50 schools nationwide in terms of innovation, the country's #20 school in terms of value, and # 16 overall in national universities.
I agree but there is something to it. I've seen people discuss this topic outside of STL and I hear both "that's really weird" and "that's not special". Also, when I started college in Springfield, I would ask people from Springfield which high school they went to. After I got a couple awkward reactions, I stopped.Bart Harley Jarvis wrote: ↑Nov 19, 2020I truly don't understand why St. Louisans think the "what high school question" is unique to the STL region. (It's probably self-perpetuating at this point) It's a common question with any area large enough to support more than one high school in close proximity to one another. Hell, in my city of 35k, there are 2 high schools and people ask which one you went to.
It's similar to D.C. residents asking what one's job is. Yes, it's a pretty common question everywhere but D.C. takes it further.
Also, my rant for both of these topics: people ask what high school you went to because they're looking for common ground and / or mutual acquaintances. They don't give two shits about your economic status. Same thing for D.C., they're asking you because so many people work for or with the federal government and you might have common ground or acquaintances. They're not judging you by your job or seeing if you're worth their time. Yes, there are exceptions, but this definitely isn't the origin of these questions and it isn't the basis for 80% of the people who ask.
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^Valid point. And that probably gets pretty close to the point of why the question makes me uncomfortable. I attended what is regarded as a decent, if pedestrian high school. Did well enough there too. But I have precisely one social contact from that school with whom I'm still in contact. (Which is really only a couple less than the day I graduated.) My time there was the tail end of the most miserable period in my life and I prefer not to dwell on it. Yep, I went there. No, I don't know your friend who went there. No, not them either. Nor them. Just . . . nope. And let's keep it that way. That is why I hate that question. Blinkety blinking "good schools" my tuchus.
I have not lived in other medium-sized cities in the US, so I have no idea how it is in STL's peer cities, but the high school question was definitely new to me. It gets to the point that I, an obvious recent immigrant with a strong accent, get asked which high school I went to lol.
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^ yeah, i think folks in STL are just not used to people moving to STL from far-away places. but, like others, i don't think the high school question has anything to do with classism at this point. it's just knee-jerk small talk. i've heard it's common in cities that at one time had strong parochial (e.g. Catholic) school systems. maybe it used to be classism. maybe it used to be school rivalry. however it started, it's just habit at this point.
I still view it as classism and that viewpoint comes from where I went to high school and how other people react when I tell them.urban_dilettante wrote: ↑Nov 26, 2020^ yeah, i think folks in STL are just not used to people moving to STL from far-away places. but, like others, i don't think the high school question has anything to do with classism at this point. it's just knee-jerk small talk. i've heard it's common in cities that at one time had strong parochial (e.g. Catholic) school systems. maybe it used to be classism. maybe it used to be school rivalry. however it started, it's just habit at this point.
- Say you're younger and you say "I went to Roosevelt or Jennings", you'll most likely be looked down upon as poor or inner-city.
- Say "I went to Lindbergh, Mehlville, Parkway, Fox or Bishop DuBourg"", you'll be viewed as typical middle class.
- Say "I went to Vianney, DeSmet, Chaminade, St. Mary's, SLUH, Rosati Kain, Cor Jesu, Notre Dame, or Nerinx", you'll probably be viewed as upper-middle class Catholic people.
- Finally, say, "I went to MICDS, John Burroughs, Priory or Visitation", then you're viewed as upper-class.
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^ i mean, people know there's a tuition difference among those schools. but people judging based on tuition or school reputation is definitely not an STL-specific problem. anyone who's not garbage realizes that you can get just as good of an education at a public school if you apply yourself, and that you can get a crap education at a private school if you don't apply yourself. that's not to say that some schools aren't underfunded, but i think the judgement has more to with the individual than the city.
As someone who knows absolutely zero about St Louis high schools, this is a useful field guide ha!chriss752 wrote: ↑Nov 26, 2020I still view it as classism and that viewpoint comes from where I went to high school and how other people react when I tell them.urban_dilettante wrote: ↑Nov 26, 2020^ yeah, i think folks in STL are just not used to people moving to STL from far-away places. but, like others, i don't think the high school question has anything to do with classism at this point. it's just knee-jerk small talk. i've heard it's common in cities that at one time had strong parochial (e.g. Catholic) school systems. maybe it used to be classism. maybe it used to be school rivalry. however it started, it's just habit at this point.
Of course, I am missing many schools but you get the point.
- Say you're younger and you say "I went to Roosevelt or Jennings", you'll most likely be looked down upon as poor or inner-city.
- Say "I went to Lindbergh, Mehlville, Parkway, Fox or Bishop DuBourg"", you'll be viewed as typical middle class.
- Say "I went to Vianney, DeSmet, Chaminade, St. Mary's, SLUH, Rosati Kain, Cor Jesu, Notre Dame, or Nerinx", you'll probably be viewed as upper-middle class Catholic people.
- Finally, say, "I went to MICDS, John Burroughs, Priory or Visitation", then you're viewed as upper-class.
I see both sides of this argument. The only time I saw it as classism is when I was at lunch with a bunch of coworkers. I was the only one who attended a public high school, they rest upping each other with their insufferable MICDS/Vianny/DeSmet nonsense.
When asked it’s always been followed by, ‘oh, what year? Do you know so-n-so?’ Whom I never do. I think most are looking for a connection.
I’m guilty of asking for my own quirky reason. I played football and wrestled back in the day so I’ve been to a lot of the high schools in the metro area (albeit football fields, locker rooms and gymnasiums.) It’s fun when they say ‘Ritenour’ I think, ‘oh yeah, I got pinned by a guy from Ritenour at a tournament up in Riverview Gardens...’ or ‘Kirkwood. Wow, that was a great goal line stance we made -twice!-to preserve the win and make the playoffs.’ I have a personal athletic story at almost every public high school in the County. Depending on the person, I’ll share the feeling of dread and butterflies walking into their old school. Most appreciate knowing their teams instilled fear.
When asked it’s always been followed by, ‘oh, what year? Do you know so-n-so?’ Whom I never do. I think most are looking for a connection.
I’m guilty of asking for my own quirky reason. I played football and wrestled back in the day so I’ve been to a lot of the high schools in the metro area (albeit football fields, locker rooms and gymnasiums.) It’s fun when they say ‘Ritenour’ I think, ‘oh yeah, I got pinned by a guy from Ritenour at a tournament up in Riverview Gardens...’ or ‘Kirkwood. Wow, that was a great goal line stance we made -twice!-to preserve the win and make the playoffs.’ I have a personal athletic story at almost every public high school in the County. Depending on the person, I’ll share the feeling of dread and butterflies walking into their old school. Most appreciate knowing their teams instilled fear.
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I would think any legacy city without a major amount of transplants has this same quirk
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A YouTube channel came to St. Louis to try some food among other things.
cool video, I got to recommend it too! As for the question about what highschool you go to; as a current student in high school, I can say if it's a student to another student, it has classist connotations. I play soccer, so yes it's the mentality that you want to be better than other schools, but IMO it stems from a stance of identity especially elitism. More and more recently its become politicized in such a way that you say the school's name and you can assume a student's political ideology. Of course, none of this really holds up to anything when you realize each school is unique and diverse in a variety of ways. My school is nicknamed the "ghetto School" yet almost no one in the building would have ever heard this being said. Of course, I'm not an alumnus so maybe it's different for each generation.
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The next video, where they go hike HA HA Tonka state park and eat park steaks is a good one too.chriss752 wrote:A YouTube channel came to St. Louis to try some food among other things.