True but then you're referring our enthusiastic embrace of highways slashing through city centers and the culture of high speed sprawl draining the vitality of downtown. That is quite a different issue than the traditional street grid of neighborhoods that caters to local traffic and connectivity and that existed long before the violence of the internal combustion engine came along.urban_dilettante wrote: ↑Oct 27, 2020well, cars + 70 years of car-focused development patters are a big reason that STL streets aren't packed full of free-spending tourists or residents. cars need to be put in their f*cking place.framer wrote: ↑Oct 27, 2020I can't believe some of you are actually in favor of closing streets to auto traffic. Once again, this can work in densely populated areas, or European cities that are packed full of free-spending tourists, but St. Louis simply doesn't have the numbers to make it work.
Free the Grid!
Just like we shouldn't have gone overboard to sell our souls to the automobile, I feel we do not need to go overboard in the other direction either.
A balanced approach is what will stand the test of time. Calm traffic to your heart's delight without sacrificing access.


















