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PostOct 12, 2020#2651

I was downtown at the arch with my family on Saturday and it was very busy. I was really happy to see the amount of people out. Most people had masks, some just don’t want the rules to apply to them, but overall it was much better than I expected. Same with Union Station. I was there yesterday and today and it was very busy both days. 2 hour wait for a table at soda fountain.


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PostOct 12, 2020#2652

Bonafide-Purchaser wrote:
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I was downtown at the arch with my family on Saturday and it was very busy. I was really happy to see the amount of people out. Most people had masks, some just don’t want the rules to apply to them, but overall it was much better than I expected. Same with Union Station. I was there yesterday and today and it was very busy both days. 2 hour wait for a table at soda fountain.


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Is the Soda Fountain any good? I can't do shakes and ice cream anymore but is the food good? Ever since that place opened there were long waits.

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PostOct 12, 2020#2653

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Bonafide-Purchaser wrote:
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I was downtown at the arch with my family on Saturday and it was very busy. I was really happy to see the amount of people out. Most people had masks, some just don’t want the rules to apply to them, but overall it was much better than I expected. Same with Union Station. I was there yesterday and today and it was very busy both days. 2 hour wait for a table at soda fountain.


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Is the Soda Fountain any good? I can't do shakes and ice cream anymore but is the food good? Ever since that place opened there were long waits.
It's a little pricey and the non sweets menu is pretty small but the food was decent when I went shortly after it opened. It definitely seems to be a good addition.

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PostOct 12, 2020#2654

I talked to a downtown hotel owner with multiple properties and he said that even if half the stuff that’s already booked for 2021 happens that they’ll have a huge year. No pressure on the vaccine makers

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PostOct 12, 2020#2655

kipfilet wrote:
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Started going back to the office on a limited basis this week. Downtown is pretty empty overall, but was glad to see that the restaurants on Washington were quite busy. 
I can't wait to get back.  

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PostOct 12, 2020#2656

We have a downtown west and west county office and I think everyone has decided to work from home permanently with Tuesday as an open day for in office meet ups if needed. I’d stay away from commercial real estate investments

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PostOct 14, 2020#2657

^For observation's sake, I work for an extremely large company and have not spoken to a single person who isn't ecstatic to get back to an office.

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PostOct 14, 2020#2658

newstl2020 wrote:
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^For observation's sake, I work for an extremely large company and have not spoken to a single person who isn't ecstatic to get back to an office.
I don’t doubt that a lot of people can’t wait to get back but even if 10-20% don’t ever get back that is a huge shift and the impact is right away (within a year) instead of a dragged out 10-15 year trend like open floor offices

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PostOct 14, 2020#2659

Saw these estimates for Seattle vacancy. Scary numbers. Would be interested to see the same done for STL.






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PostOct 14, 2020#2660

This building is the 2nd on Washington Ave but due to the size of the first it has frontage on 14th and it appears to be getting windows. A $600k construction permit was issued recently
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PostOct 14, 2020#2661

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Oct 14, 2020
This building is the 2nd on Washington Ave but due to the size of the first it has frontage on 14th and it appears to be getting windows.  A $600k construction permit was issued recently
Great.  Is that the Northeast corner?

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PostOct 14, 2020#2662

robertn42 wrote:
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dbInSouthCity wrote:
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This building is the 2nd on Washington Ave but due to the size of the first it has frontage on 14th and it appears to be getting windows.  A $600k construction permit was issued recently
Great.  Is that the Northeast corner?
Northwest 
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PostOct 14, 2020#2663

robertn42 wrote:
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dbInSouthCity wrote:
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This building is the 2nd on Washington Ave but due to the size of the first it has frontage on 14th and it appears to be getting windows.  A $600k construction permit was issued recently
Great.  Is that the Northeast corner?
Yes. That's the northeast corner. 

Great they're opening it up more.

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PostOct 14, 2020#2664

wabash wrote:
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robertn42 wrote:
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dbInSouthCity wrote:
Oct 14, 2020
This building is the 2nd on Washington Ave but due to the size of the first it has frontage on 14th and it appears to be getting windows.  A $600k construction permit was issued recently
Great.  Is that the Northeast corner?
Yes. That's the northeast corner. 

Great they're opening it up more.
Lol. Yes the NE corner and the NW part of the building

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PostOct 14, 2020#2665

I believe what SettleNative posted on Seattle leases and vacancies is reflective of a lot of the high end, tech driven office markets whether it Seattle with Microsoft/Amazon, to San Fran office to Manhattan.

In some respects I would see this as an opportunity for St. Louis if they could pitch things correctly.   I'm a firm believer that companies are seeing productivity loss and real consequences to bottom line of letting a big part of its workforce to work from home.  Nothing on my end to back up other then spending most of my days at my office with most of admin people at home.  Spent half my day so far dealing with accounts payable emails instead of walking down the hallway & spending fraction of time.   

What St. Louis offers is space at a fraction of the cost on the coasts.  You could literally give office worker the room to perform job while social distance at square foot rates a lot less then what Seattle, San Fran, Manhattan rates were going for pre Covid.

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PostOct 14, 2020#2666

From the New York Times:   "Manhattan Emptied Out During the Pandemic. But Big Tech Is Moving In."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/13/nyre ... space.html

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PostOct 15, 2020#2667

This is a pretty flimsy argument, admittedly, but I have a long standing observation of the vanity of the "top end" of the corporate world needing to "flex" on the rest of the workforce. Sure, you can log into your zoom meeting from your palatial estate, but without the human interaction I think this dynamic wears thin extremely quickly absent the actual human interaction.

Yes yes, I know this is not representative of blah blah blah. Refer back to the start of the post.

Additionally, anyone working a job that has been moved from an office to remote should, IMHO, be eager to get back to a physical office as quickly as possible. A very strange thing, watching the white collar workforce cheer the same factors that have decimated the middle class of this country via off shoring, etc. (manufacturing) over the last ~50 years. Once a company gets comfortable with you working from home, they will be just as comfortable with someone globally doing the same job at 25% of the pay.

GET BACK TO YOUR OFFICES, PEOPLE!

(OT rant over 😀)

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PostOct 15, 2020#2668

Might have been mentioned earlier but the comic book shop on Wash Ave has been converted into a beauty shop

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PostOct 16, 2020#2669

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I apologize if the picture quality is bad I was on my run. Looks like the street resurfacing may bring us a new bike lane. I don’t like the design/layout of it but it’s the right time to go about it as other cities across the world are doing the same. This is between the courts building and the Richard Serra sculpture.



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The Locust bike lane was fully completed (paint and all) for like two days before Spire started tearing it up.

Now it looks like they've moved on to tearing up the 11th Street bike lane. I'm not sure if that one was even complete. Some of the bike lane stripes were mostly gone already.

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PostOct 17, 2020#2670

"St. Louis Ranks 5th in U.S. For Most Industrial Buildings to Lofts Conversions, Study Say"

https://stlouiscnr.com/st-louis-ranks-5 ... tudy-says/

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PostOct 22, 2020#2671

dbInSouthCity wrote:
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....the developer proposed the townhouses and bailed...not sure how anyone can fault the city. 
simple: Failing to require a building permit before issuing a demolition permit. 

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PostOct 24, 2020#2672

Through the Archives: 23 years later, concerns about the future of downtown St. Louis remain: https://www.kmov.com/news/through-the-a ... ef87d.html

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PostOct 24, 2020#2673

good ol' KMOV doin' what KMOV does.

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PostOct 25, 2020#2674

Dose any one Know what the parking lots south of downtown  are zoned as?  

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PostOct 25, 2020#2675

Thatguy644 wrote:Dose any one Know what the parking lots south of downtown  are zoned as?  
Ranges from I: Central Business to L: Jefferson National Memorial

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