Stltoday- Preservationists lament MLS team's plan to demolish buildings near stadium site for parking
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 20e41.html
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 20e41.html
BCBS can park at US. How f-ing lazy are people?
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I do think part of the issue is unfortunately a cultural issue with St. Louisans. I swear some of us think it’s in the Bill of Rights that you are entitled to park within 50 feet of your destination. Ever notice all of the people who cause traffic backups by trying to park right on Tamm Ave as the St. Pat’s parade is starting? They just simply can’t be bothered to have to park and walk from 10 minutes away. I remember eating dinner once in the popular West Loop area of Chicago and we, along with everyone else, had to find street parking and walk 8 blocks or so. I sadly remember thinking there was no way St. Louisans would tolerate this which is one reason why we could never have an area as cool as that in St. Louis.
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"Preservationists lament..."
local media, and St. Louis in general, never fail to disappoint.
local media, and St. Louis in general, never fail to disappoint.
^^Note the Twitter rant by Sean McGowan, former owner of one of these buildings. He swears there is not enough parking in Downtown West. Translation: every development and each business must have all the parking spaces they could ever possibly need immediately adjacent to the building, or it will fail. Hence, the disconnect. We have completely different definitions of "oversupply"...
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Lots of folks have mentioned that we need a tax on surface lots, and I agree, but can anyone think of even 1 Alderman or elected City official who has supported that? I can’t think of any.
KMOX - Soccer district plans mixed-use parking on site of historic buildings
Preservationists are petitioning to save the block of brick
https://kmox.radio.com/articles/news/pe ... er-parking
Preservationists are petitioning to save the block of brick
https://kmox.radio.com/articles/news/pe ... er-parking
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demo people are already behind the buildings planning and digging
its going down very soon
its going down very soon
Random thoughts: They would seem to only need about half of the current Anthem lot to construct the stadium, and the rest could remain surface parking at least until mid-2022 or so. The rest just needs to be graded for the future plaza, unless they are planning something underground there...but I don't see any evidence of that in their current excavation efforts.
Okay, I thought I remembered this, glad it's pointed out in the article:quincunx wrote: ↑Sep 11, 2020Stltoday- Preservationists lament MLS team's plan to demolish buildings near stadium site for parking
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 20e41.html
"When they described their vision for the stadium, they indicated they didn’t plan to add a sea of parking, instead relying on the many nearby lots and garages and adding only a few hundred spots underneath practice fields adjacent to the stadium for team staff."
That tweet is basically all you need to see:quincunx wrote: ↑Sep 11, 2020KMOX - Soccer district plans mixed-use parking on site of historic buildings
Preservationists are petitioning to save the block of brick
https://kmox.radio.com/articles/news/pe ... er-parking
Have to say, I never really bought that line...EssTeeEll wrote: ↑Sep 11, 2020Okay, I thought I remembered this, glad it's pointed out in the article:
"When they described their vision for the stadium, they indicated they didn’t plan to add a sea of parking, instead relying on the many nearby lots and garages and adding only a few hundred spots underneath practice fields adjacent to the stadium for team staff."
But see, they were honest! They aren't adding a sea of parking, just a few lakes of parking...and maybe, eventually, a tiered fountain of parking!
Aren't a good fraction of BCBS employees working from home? Whatever excuse works, I guess.
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McGowans deserve a lot of praise and credit for having the vision and taking the risk very early on in downtown but what have they done in the last decade?
urbanitas wrote: ↑Sep 11, 2020Have to say, I never really bought that line...EssTeeEll wrote: ↑Sep 11, 2020Okay, I thought I remembered this, glad it's pointed out in the article:
"When they described their vision for the stadium, they indicated they didn’t plan to add a sea of parking, instead relying on the many nearby lots and garages and adding only a few hundred spots underneath practice fields adjacent to the stadium for team staff."
But see, they were honest! They aren't adding a sea of parking, just a few lakes of parking...and maybe, eventually, a tiered fountain of parking!
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^ the only thing they care about is potential loss of revenue due to bad publicity. given that most of their fans are suburbanites who couldn't care less about these buildings, i also doubt they give a sh*t about the signatures.
If the attention brought to this means anything, it means that we could see their parking garage/retail replacement proposed sooner rather than later. Maybe they'll throw in a few floors of apartments too.
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Why would someone spent $5.5m to buy up buildings and knock them down and spend another $6-8m to build a 500 spot garage? Money. It’s not because there isn’t enough parking near by. There is more then enough but it’s controlled by others.
so if the owners are going to spend money on the stadium & the team, they want to make some of it back by having their own parking garage to charge visitors. If they would just say that fine go ahead but don’t give us some bs like “it’s in the redevelopment plan” or it’s needed
so if the owners are going to spend money on the stadium & the team, they want to make some of it back by having their own parking garage to charge visitors. If they would just say that fine go ahead but don’t give us some bs like “it’s in the redevelopment plan” or it’s needed
If only there were other, even larger empty spaces close to the stadium with easy highway access that could accommodate such a garage with no demolition required. Like two on land controlled by the team or one that is under 100 yards from the stadium's main entrance and could also serve a hotel, aquarium and emerging entertainment district that could free up space under the train shed for additional outdoor attractions/dining.... in the post-coved era. But I guess that'd be asking too much and/or would make too much sense.
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But, surely they could have negotiated with any of the other number of surface lot owners and paid less for any of the other lots?
This is so dumbfounding. It's like they think that independent small business that will eventually pop up in these remaining urban bones are going to chip away at their corporate earnings.
Does anyone have a map of all of the team's holdings at this point? Hard to keep track of what has been acquired through eminent domain.
This is so dumbfounding. It's like they think that independent small business that will eventually pop up in these remaining urban bones are going to chip away at their corporate earnings.
Does anyone have a map of all of the team's holdings at this point? Hard to keep track of what has been acquired through eminent domain.