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Hopefully it does well. There are a lot of downtown Macy's locations that are closed or will soon be closed. City Target is a perfect fit for these spots.

Would also love to see a Trader Joe's or Aldi in the space, along with a CVS/Walgreens.

Has anyone heard from Hudson? When I look them, up their office looks shut down, and their phone number doesn’t even work...


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Hudson was a mess from day one. I tried to go to their website back in 2016 and it wanted me to download a font file that my computer detected as malware. Yes, I know innocent things get flagged as malware all the time, but not a good look regardless. Plus, ya know, they were hq'd in Florida. 

Man, a Downtown Target would be killer here.  I think a CVS/Walgreens could work in a million other spots, but the footprint of this is perfect for Target.

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Man, a Downtown Target would be killer here.  I think a CVS/Walgreens could work in a million other spots, but the footprint of this is perfect for Target.

Why not both? 

The ground floor is over 60,000 SF.  CVS owns Target's pharmacy operations, but I have never noticed if there are any CityTarget or TargetExpress stores that share a building with a full CVS. There would probably be too much product overlap, especially for a selection "targeted" to an urban demographic. Still, as long as we are dreaming...

I guess that was my only thought.  Seems a bit redundant.

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I guess that was my only thought.  Seems a bit redundant.

Well, their current urban concepts would be. 

But since CVS acquired Target's pharmacy and prescription delivery operations, there has been some speculation and discussion of more consolidation. Rather than a merger or CVS acquiring Target outright, a joint venture might make sense.

Target wants to move into urban areas with smaller concept stores complete with CVS pharmacies, yet CVS is already in many of those markets with pharmacy / c-stores. So, as things are, CVS would be competing with itself, unless, they create a new joint venture urban concept...something for which the Railway Exchange space seems perfectly suited.

I could see CVS supplying the health, beauty, and OTC medical products along with the pharmacy. And the Target side would supply the groceries, kitchen stuff, small appliances, electronics, home office supplies, unassembled furniture, etc. All targeted to the urban dweller or visitor of course. Then CVS can phase out some of their suburban-style urban c-stores, and share the increased cost of retail space in the denser, more pedestrian-oriented locations...

Can you post who said that?

Laife Fulk wrote: ↑

Apr 23, 2021

Can you post who said that?

An oboist, of course. 

"Michael Lisicky
Contributor

I’ve been cited in media publications as a department store “historian,” “lecturer,” “expert,” “guru,” “aficionado,” “junkie,” and “maven.” I am an oboist with the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra but I have this second life. I have authored several department store history books, from Wanamaker's to Gimbels, and lectured at locations such as the New York Public Library, Boston Public Library, New York Fashion Week, the Wanamaker centennial celebration, and the Historical Society of Washington DC. I have contributed to the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Fortune, Washington Post, NPR, BBC World News, and Southern Living. You may have even seen me on CBS Sunday Morning. I love telling stories and I stand by my research. I’m also at http://www.departmentstorehistory.net/"

Laife Fulk wrote: ↑

Apr 23, 2021

Can you post who said that?

Sounds like the article's author said it. His name is Michael Lisicky. 

urbanitas wrote: ↑

Apr 23, 2021

Laife Fulk wrote: ↑

Apr 23, 2021

Can you post who said that?

An oboist, of course. 

"Michael Lisicky
Contributor

I’ve been cited in media publications as a department store “historian,” “lecturer,” “expert,” “guru,” “aficionado,” “junkie,” and “maven.” I am an oboist with the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra but I have this second life. I have authored several department store history books, from Wanamaker's to Gimbels, and lectured at locations such as the New York Public Library, Boston Public Library, New York Fashion Week, the Wanamaker centennial celebration, and the Historical Society of Washington DC. I have contributed to the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Fortune, Washington Post, NPR, BBC World News, and Southern Living. You may have even seen me on CBS Sunday Morning. I love telling stories and I stand by my research. I’m also at http://www.departmentstorehistory.net/"

I have enormous respect for oboists. They're such lovely instruments . . . and so blasted hard to play. Someone managing to not only play the oboe well but still have enough free time to write about architecture at such a level . . . Well done!

An oboist/department store historian; I love it! 

Thanks! I appreciate that someone in another city gave a shout out to the Railway Exchange, but was hoping this was coming from some developer or broker who has influence.

Any updates on this building?


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JJ Rivera wrote:Any updates on this building?


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Not even a whisper


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SeattleNative wrote:

JJ Rivera wrote:Any updates on this building?


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Not even a whisper


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That sucks man! That’s a nice building!! I’m also curious if the Hotel Saint Louis expansion to the chemical building still happening or if that’s also dead.


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That sucks man! That’s a nice building!! I’m also curious if the Hotel Saint Louis expansion to the chemical building still happening or if that’s also dead. 

Jefferson Arm's developer is having a very difficult time obtaining financing.

Hotel Saint Louis will not be expanding into the Chemical Building.  CBRE has the Chemical Building listed.  Lots of interest.  Chemical Building will get done.

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That sucks man! That’s a nice building!! I’m also curious if the Hotel Saint Louis expansion to the chemical building still happening or if that’s also dead. 

Jefferson Arm's developer is having a very difficult time obtaining financing.

Hotel Saint Louis will not be expanding into the Chemical Building.  CBRE has the Chemical Building listed.  Lots of interest.  Chemical Building will get done.

Chemical Building is a nice one! I can see some nice condos in it.


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Here's the Chemical Building thread

chemical-building-721-olive-street-t1379.html

quincunx wrote:Here's the Chemical Building thread

chemical-building-721-olive-street-t1379.html

This one was last updated two years ago!! No wonder we couldn’t find it lol…


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Building supposedly under contract. Trying to dig and find out more but so far, haven’t found or heard much else. Will update more later.