I think we'd see incrementally more service, but nothing like the number of nonstop destinations we're getting from WN. If WN wasn't here, do you think Allegiant would have come to STL?jshank83 wrote: ↑Mar 08, 2020If we didn’t have southwest there would be someone else to fill the void. Frontier/Spirit/allegiant do it at airports like PIT/CLI thi
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I would guess no. Fees would be higher than now and I think that would have probably kept them away. Plus when they came back to MidAmerica in 2012 it wasn’t like Southwest was huge yet at STL.frequentflyer wrote: ↑Mar 08, 2020I think we'd see incrementally more service, but nothing like the number of nonstop destinations we're getting from WN. If WN wasn't here, do you think Allegiant would have come to STL?jshank83 wrote: ↑Mar 08, 2020If we didn’t have southwest there would be someone else to fill the void. Frontier/Spirit/allegiant do it at airports like PIT/CLI thi
And I agree about less nonstops overall. But I think it would be more than just hub and spoke routes.
The head designer of the new Laguardia put out a “ How to design an airport” video. It’s a great watch. See here: https://youtu.be/Kil-slXgVys
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That’s a bit advanced but has common sense in it in terms of design. From the way people make it sound, LaGuardia is one of the worst airports in the country, so they need this. I don’t really like the idea of a bridge over the runway (or whatever it’s called).
Taxiwaychriss752 wrote: ↑Mar 17, 2020I don’t really like the idea of a bridge over the runway (or whatever it’s called).
Laguardia is the worst. The design challenge is that it is land/water locked and it can't shut operations down. Hence its expense, too.
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An early death for Trans States Airlines... The STL Biz Journal is reporting it will cease operations on April 1st.
^I've never heard of them and I doubt many others have as well. Sad to see them go but it happens.
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Honestly, I don't even think it's a taxiway. Just a movement area on the apron. The definitions get kind of fiddly, but there's no real need to have a taxiway between the headhouse and the gate area. The taxiway is just the striped and signed thing where aircraft move from a place where they might stop for a protracted period for one kind of service or another to another remote part of the airport or a runway. The little aisles on the apron by the gates don't really count as taxiways. Taxiway C at Lambert kind of confuses the issue a bit, as it's a legit signed taxiway that gets a little closer to gates than is normal, but . . . it's really quite exceptional.
You may have never heard of Trans States Airlines, but chances are you've flown them.chriss752 wrote: ↑Mar 18, 2020^I've never heard of them and I doubt many others have as well. Sad to see them go but it happens.
I only flew twice in my life and that was a roundtrip from Chicago to Detroit in December with Southwest.
It's disappointing that many will be losing their jobs over this closure though.
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Trans States airlines, in their peak, operated the commuter flights (non jet) for TWA, as well as other airlines. Most of their aircraft were branded as Trans World Express (TWE) - much like American Eagle are the commuter flights for AA,United Express for UA etc.
With no hub here with commuter needs they are challenged to operate. It is unfortunate.
With no hub here with commuter needs they are challenged to operate. It is unfortunate.
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From my limited experience with airport design and speaking with engineers as well as talking with my cousin who privately flies planes on a weekly basis, taxiway connects the runway to the parking positions. Parking positions, airplane apron (most countries call it this), or airplane ramp (US calls it this) is the place where planes are loading and unloading. So in this case the space under the bridge where the plane would move from one place at the airport to another is taxiway space. Unless there are gates under or next to the bridge but I would need to see a plan to verify.symphonicpoet wrote:Honestly, I don't even think it's a taxiway. Just a movement area on the apron. The definitions get kind of fiddly, but there's no real need to have a taxiway between the headhouse and the gate area. The taxiway is just the striped and signed thing where aircraft move from a place where they might stop for a protracted period for one kind of service or another to another remote part of the airport or a runway. The little aisles on the apron by the gates don't really count as taxiways. Taxiway C at Lambert kind of confuses the issue a bit, as it's a legit signed taxiway that gets a little closer to gates than is normal, but . . . it's really quite exceptional.
So Aprice was right.
United flights to SFO are temporarily cut. Not surprising. April and May.
Anyone who flies on the big 3 regularly has probably flown them. Especially United. I’m hopeful this means less E145s flying out of here now.
Air Canada also cutting all flights for at least the first 2 weeks of April
Southwest changes effective April 14
Mon-Fri down 16 flights from 116 to 100
Saturday down 5 flights from 83 to 78
Sunday is down 9 flights from 125 to 116
Total down from original schedule to MAX grounding 849 to 788 or 7.18% (originally was between 9% and 10%)
Total down from MAX grounding to Corona: 788 to 694 or 11.93%
Total down from original schedule to now 18.26%
All changes were frequency changes. No routes were cut.
Mon-Fri down 16 flights from 116 to 100
Saturday down 5 flights from 83 to 78
Sunday is down 9 flights from 125 to 116
Total down from original schedule to MAX grounding 849 to 788 or 7.18% (originally was between 9% and 10%)
Total down from MAX grounding to Corona: 788 to 694 or 11.93%
Total down from original schedule to now 18.26%
All changes were frequency changes. No routes were cut.
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Lambert likely to postpone several million dollars worth of infrastructure improvements due to COVID-19's effects on air travel, included several where the work was already contracted. None were critical to the safety or operation of the airport. Unfortunate, but understandable.
Interesting to note daily passenger numbers - down to about 2,400 a day versus 46,000 at this time of year.
Interesting to note daily passenger numbers - down to about 2,400 a day versus 46,000 at this time of year.
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^I'm a little surprised that none of the major projects met the axe, or at least a slow walk. But I'm personally hoping the traffic will return quite a lot more quickly than it did after 2001 once we have a handle on the pandemic. Too early to know if that's really true, but maybe with luck the stimulus and pent up demand will be enough. I'm certainly not planning to quit flying as a result of this.
I read and article yesterday where they interviewed some airline experts that said they think it will get back to 2019 levels in 2022 or 2023. Delta and United already said they plan to come out of this as a smaller airline.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑Apr 02, 2020^I'm a little surprised that none of the major projects met the axe, or at least a slow walk. But I'm personally hoping the traffic will return quite a lot more quickly than it did after 2001 once we have a handle on the pandemic. Too early to know if that's really true, but maybe with luck the stimulus and pent up demand will be enough. I'm certainly not planning to quit flying as a result of this.
I doubt it. I think the current situation will result in a permanent change (decrease) in business travel, as people realize that much of the travel is unnecessary, become more conscious about their carbon footprint, etc.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑Apr 02, 2020^I'm a little surprised that none of the major projects met the axe, or at least a slow walk. But I'm personally hoping the traffic will return quite a lot more quickly than it did after 2001 once we have a handle on the pandemic. Too early to know if that's really true, but maybe with luck the stimulus and pent up demand will be enough. I'm certainly not planning to quit flying as a result of this.
Interesting analysis from Cranky/Bret Snyder about WN’s May schedule. Looks like all things equal STL came out fairly well. My guess is this is both a structural and tactical play given their success here and relative containment in STL compared to other parts of the country makes it an attractive place to maintain a connecting complex amid the pandemic.
https://crankyflier.com/2020/04/14/sout ... -schedule/
Hoping the momentum and great work from Rhonda and Brian Kinsey’s team on air service development can pick back up once things stabilize.
https://crankyflier.com/2020/04/14/sout ... -schedule/
Hoping the momentum and great work from Rhonda and Brian Kinsey’s team on air service development can pick back up once things stabilize.
The only Southwest flights out of Des Moines and Wichita will be to STL for May. Upping them to 3 a day.JAL007 wrote: ↑Apr 14, 2020Interesting analysis from Cranky/Bret Snyder about WN’s May schedule. Looks like all things equal STL came out fairly well. My guess is this is both a structural and tactical play given their success here and relative containment in STL compared to other parts of the country makes it an attractive place to maintain a connecting complex amid the pandemic.
https://crankyflier.com/2020/04/14/sout ... -schedule/
Hoping the momentum and great work from Rhonda and Brian Kinsey’s team on air service development can pick back up once things stabilize.
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Lambert is set to get $60,000,000 from the CARES Act.
Google map with how much each airport in the central region is getting
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... 241023&z=9
Google map with how much each airport in the central region is getting
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... 241023&z=9