Agreed.Forever_Lou wrote: I'd love to, walker. Why don't you tell newstl2020 to cool it with the condescending attacks? We're all on the same team here. I've been following this forum for at least 10 years. I even contributed to the kickstarter campaign to help keep this site alive when Alex was leaving. That was about as rude of a reply as I've seen.
Sounds like a good problem to have, on our end. Don’t know about your friend or person you know but that’s a surprising thing to hear. Our Downtown Hotel stock was full at the time so further West they went.kipfilet wrote:Just last week someone I know had to fly last minute from SF for a work meeting in downtown STL and the closest available room they could find was at the Forest Park Holiday Inn.
Without wanting to veer too much offtopic, my job flies in people every week often last minute, and we frequently have issues booking them downtown and even CWE/Clayton due to capacity constraints. I mention this every time someone argues that there are "too many hotels downtown".chriss752 wrote:Sounds like a good problem to have, on our end. Don’t know about your friend or person you know but that’s a surprising thing to hear. Our Downtown Hotel stock was full at the time so further West they went.kipfilet wrote:Just last week someone I know had to fly last minute from SF for a work meeting in downtown STL and the closest available room they could find was at the Forest Park Holiday Inn.
Hotel, residential, or office you have to love the fact that this proposal honest to goodness infill for downtown surface parking lot. Will be nice if they can pull off the financing and break ground on new construction that is not part of BPV.
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Yeah I don't know what's going on but some recent posts have been really aggressive. Mayor, and others. Maybe it's just the times.Forever_Lou wrote: I'd love to, walker. Why don't you tell newstl2020 to cool it with the condescending attacks? We're all on the same team here. I've been following this forum for at least 10 years. I even contributed to the kickstarter campaign to help keep this site alive when Alex was leaving. That was about as rude of a reply as I've seen.
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Echoing what some have said above, it doesn't take a ton of experience interacting with the hotel market downtown to realize there is demand for these proposals. And this is a great one on a surface parking lot with awesome street level interaction. All good stuff.
Echoing what some have said above, it doesn't take a ton of experience interacting with the hotel market downtown to realize there is demand for these proposals. And this is a great one on a surface parking lot with awesome street level interaction. All good stuff.
I hope the design doesn’t change any. I don’t know enough about Hawkeye to know whether or not they order a redesign of projects before they start. In its current form, this is a win win.
^ I agree, I really like the design, something new and fresh for downtown. And filling in a surface lot!
...hope this wasn't too aggressive
...hope this wasn't too aggressive
Where is this in the process: Concept? Review? Approved
There's so many steps from proposal to groundbreaking I get lost on where things stand and things often die in the process.
thanks!
There's so many steps from proposal to groundbreaking I get lost on where things stand and things often die in the process.
thanks!
It’s in the review stage. The LCRA reviewed the tax abatement request and it goes through the proper board’s and committees from there. So whatever is the next stop, that’s where it is heading. It’s chugging along though.shadrach wrote:Where is this in the process: Concept? Review? Approved
There's so many steps from proposal to groundbreaking I get lost on where things stand and things often die in the process.
thanks!
I've spoken with the developers on this, they say that it is being fast-tracked at this point. They want to start this project after the completion of the neighboring Le Meridien (which is this Fall).
I just got the answer, 145FT will be the final height.Elek.borrelli wrote:Is there an official height yet?
Construction is now supposed to start this Winter.
Some updates regarding the Moxy...
- The cost has risen to $18 Million.
- A redevelopment plan was approved with the LCRA last month.
- From the developer: They will send the plans out to local contractors in Early September for bids.
- The design process is nearing completion with minor updates to the building's overall look. Nothing dramatic according to them.
- The cost has risen to $18 Million.
- A redevelopment plan was approved with the LCRA last month.
- From the developer: They will send the plans out to local contractors in Early September for bids.
- The design process is nearing completion with minor updates to the building's overall look. Nothing dramatic according to them.
From @Stl101 in the "Hotels Thread".
Hawkeye Hotel New Construction zoning board meeting 11-21-19 notice. Moxy Hotel site 11th and Olive.
Some updates...
- Height has grown to 13 floors
- Room count has increased to 175 rooms
- The design remains relatively the same
- Q2 Start being eyed
- Height has grown to 13 floors
- Room count has increased to 175 rooms
- The design remains relatively the same
- Q2 Start being eyed
^ Was literally thinking about this one today, thanks for the update. Good to hear about the slight increase in size too.
Also noticed that a portion of the lot across the street is up for sale.
https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/1100-Ol ... /17236606/
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That's a really narrow lot - might be tough to develop. I suppose if it could be combined with the adjacent lot, that would open up a lot more possibilities.addxb2 wrote: ↑Dec 23, 2019Also noticed that a portion of the lot across the street is up for sale.
https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/1100-Ol ... /17236606/
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I couldn't find the thread for it, but this is a connected project so I figured here works. New signage has been installed for Le Meridien which is undergoing a reno next to the Moxy property. Once this reno is complete, the Moxy is slated to begin construction.
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I’d say that any hotel project that hasn’t started probably isn’t starting for a long time if ever. This one, shell building, ymca and old municipal courts building
Shell Building Hilton has already started new construction phase. Unless this was a rare instance of installing a buck hoist for demo phase.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Apr 14, 2020I’d say that any hotel project that hasn’t started probably isn’t starting for a long time if ever. This one, shell building, ymca and old municipal courts building
I assumed the Muni courts hotel proposal has been dead for a while and has had nothing to do with Covid. Probably more in line with developers not being able to put together a strong enough package or strong enough record to entice financing. I still believe Muni courts with infill on its parking lot along Clark would make for a residential project once BPV is built outdbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Apr 14, 2020I’d say that any hotel project that hasn’t started probably isn’t starting for a long time if ever. This one, shell building, ymca and old municipal courts building