Crimson works as a traditional symbol of the color of blood, too!
Yeah, it's always just been a more polite way of saying "blood red". But is there a more appropriate color for a Knight?jeff707 wrote: ↑Nov 20, 2019Crimson works as a traditional symbol of the color of blood, too!
I'm very much opposed to the name using anything that references names like Athletico, FC, etc. However, IF ownership feels the need to incorporate a traditional international soccer name, I like it to be used as "Gateway United". Mainly because, for me, it would serve as a name the implies a united metro St. Louis region that is the Gateway to the West.urbanitas wrote: ↑Nov 19, 2019^"United" is so overdone around the league, and there are a few cities that call themselves "Gateway City". I don't like Spirits - it just makes me think of Caspar the Ghost or something, and I suspect a lot of people around the country will do the same, but if they lose the S and do something like Spirit of St. Louis (Football / Soccer / Athletic) Club, I think that would be much more appealing.
I'd be good with dropping the "s" from the end of Spirits. Whatever makes that work. I absolutely love the name Spirit and it fits St. Louis sports extremely well and is unique.
^I just like any name that incorporates Athletic Club because then their fans can officially be called Athletic Supporters...
With construction looming, state financing on tap for St. Louis soccer stadium
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 02b35.html
The City has submitted their first (of two) requests for $15 million in tax credits from the MDFB.
A few tidbits:
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 02b35.html
The City has submitted their first (of two) requests for $15 million in tax credits from the MDFB.
A few tidbits:
The total price tag for the development is listed at $461 million... In the application, the city’s redevelopment agency notes that the project will employ an estimated 2,179 during the 25 month construction period and 636 permanent jobs once the stadium begins operating.
Compared to other cities with soccer teams, the St. Louis project will be funded primarily with private dollars. Nearly 90 percent of the MLS facility in Kansas City, for example, was financed with public money, compared to an estimated 22 percent for the St. Louis stadium. Construction also is waiting on a final agreement between the Missouri Department of Transportation and the city. MoDOT owns the highway ramps that will be removed to make room for the massive project; the city plans to acquire the land and sell it to the ownership group. The application notes that the final three of nine parcels needed to build the facility are close to being acquired.
Do you think we should move into the stadium thread?sc4mayor wrote: ↑Dec 02, 2019With construction looming, state financing on tap for St. Louis soccer stadium
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 02b35.html
The City has submitted their first (of two) requests for $15 million in tax credits from the MDFB.
A few tidbits:
The total price tag for the development is listed at $461 million... In the application, the city’s redevelopment agency notes that the project will employ an estimated 2,179 during the 25 month construction period and 636 permanent jobs once the stadium begins operating.Compared to other cities with soccer teams, the St. Louis project will be funded primarily with private dollars. Nearly 90 percent of the MLS facility in Kansas City, for example, was financed with public money, compared to an estimated 22 percent for the St. Louis stadium. Construction also is waiting on a final agreement between the Missouri Department of Transportation and the city. MoDOT owns the highway ramps that will be removed to make room for the massive project; the city plans to acquire the land and sell it to the ownership group. The application notes that the final three of nine parcels needed to build the facility are close to being acquired.
$461 million seems significant and much bigger then what my mind could come up with. Thought the number was hovering around $250 million. I wonder how much of this development goes beyond the stadium and practice fields south of market? or a big part of this development cost/value also has to do with underground/parking in addition to stadium & practice fields.
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I saw somewhere that the ownership group was calling this a $400 million project between stadium and district.
I'm not sure if the other $61 million is now lumped in with that, or if it's what the state and the city have to spend to get the area ready for construction and grid changes.
I'm not sure if the other $61 million is now lumped in with that, or if it's what the state and the city have to spend to get the area ready for construction and grid changes.
I’d wager a guess that $461 million includes just about everything. I think the stadium alone is north of $250 million.dredger wrote: ↑Dec 02, 2019Do you think we should move into the stadium thread?sc4mayor wrote: ↑Dec 02, 2019With construction looming, state financing on tap for St. Louis soccer stadium
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 02b35.html
The City has submitted their first (of two) requests for $15 million in tax credits from the MDFB.
A few tidbits:
The total price tag for the development is listed at $461 million... In the application, the city’s redevelopment agency notes that the project will employ an estimated 2,179 during the 25 month construction period and 636 permanent jobs once the stadium begins operating.Compared to other cities with soccer teams, the St. Louis project will be funded primarily with private dollars. Nearly 90 percent of the MLS facility in Kansas City, for example, was financed with public money, compared to an estimated 22 percent for the St. Louis stadium. Construction also is waiting on a final agreement between the Missouri Department of Transportation and the city. MoDOT owns the highway ramps that will be removed to make room for the massive project; the city plans to acquire the land and sell it to the ownership group. The application notes that the final three of nine parcels needed to build the facility are close to being acquired.
$461 million seems significant and much bigger then what my mind could come up with. Thought the number was hovering around $250 million. I wonder how much of this development goes beyond the stadium and practice fields south of market? or a big part of this development cost/value also has to do with underground/parking in addition to stadium & practice fields.
Any word about that overpass stretch of Market? Will that need to come down and be rebuilt?
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I think they’re probably including the expansion fee to pump up the numbersc4mayor wrote: ↑Dec 02, 2019I’d wager a guess that $461 million includes just about everything. I think the stadium alone is north of $250 million.dredger wrote: ↑Dec 02, 2019Do you think we should move into the stadium thread?sc4mayor wrote: ↑Dec 02, 2019With construction looming, state financing on tap for St. Louis soccer stadium
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 02b35.html
The City has submitted their first (of two) requests for $15 million in tax credits from the MDFB.
A few tidbits:
$461 million seems significant and much bigger then what my mind could come up with. Thought the number was hovering around $250 million. I wonder how much of this development goes beyond the stadium and practice fields south of market? or a big part of this development cost/value also has to do with underground/parking in addition to stadium & practice fields.
I am surprised Ed Golterman did not show up the local news stations. He usually throws a hissy fit when the words stadium and tax dollars are used in the samesc4mayor wrote: ↑Dec 02, 2019With construction looming, state financing on tap for St. Louis soccer stadium
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 02b35.html
The City has submitted their first (of two) requests for $15 million in tax credits from the MDFB.
A few tidbits:
The total price tag for the development is listed at $461 million... In the application, the city’s redevelopment agency notes that the project will employ an estimated 2,179 during the 25 month construction period and 636 permanent jobs once the stadium begins operating.Compared to other cities with soccer teams, the St. Louis project will be funded primarily with private dollars. Nearly 90 percent of the MLS facility in Kansas City, for example, was financed with public money, compared to an estimated 22 percent for the St. Louis stadium. Construction also is waiting on a final agreement between the Missouri Department of Transportation and the city. MoDOT owns the highway ramps that will be removed to make room for the massive project; the city plans to acquire the land and sell it to the ownership group. The application notes that the final three of nine parcels needed to build the facility are close to being acquired.
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I always forget about him haha. Then I'll randomly see him pop up in the Facebook comments on the PD news feed. Always ranting and raving (with horrendous grammar and syntax) about the Opera House and how ridiculous the programming is and that it's not getting used as it should. Somehow tying that in with every other development project downtown and how all those projects are worthless because the Opera House doesn't just do Opera anymore or something. I'd laugh at him if I wasn't so impressed with his dedication lol.Rooster wrote: ↑Dec 03, 2019I am surprised Ed Golterman did not show up the local news stations. He usually throws a hissy fit when the words stadium and tax dollars are used in the same
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Speaking of comments like that, there were plenty of doozies on the FB thread for this article about how it's a bait and switch because they are using some tax credits (even though that was always part of the plan). It's amazing how dumb and ignorant Facebook has made certain segments of the population.
Amen Mayor.sc4mayor wrote: ↑Dec 03, 2019I always forget about him haha. Then I'll randomly see him pop up in the Facebook comments on the PD news feed. Always ranting and raving (with horrendous grammar and syntax) about the Opera House and how ridiculous the programming is and that it's not getting used as it should. Somehow tying that in with every other development project downtown and how all those projects are worthless because the Opera House doesn't just do Opera anymore or something. I'd laugh at him if I wasn't so impressed with his dedication lol.Rooster wrote: ↑Dec 03, 2019I am surprised Ed Golterman did not show up the local news stations. He usually throws a hissy fit when the words stadium and tax dollars are used in the same
sentence
Speaking of comments like that, there were plenty of doozies on the FB thread for this article about how it's a bait and switch because they are using some tax credits (even though that was always part of the plan). It's amazing how dumb and ignorant Facebook has made certain segments of the population.
Well most of the population does not read newspapers. They get their info on a 20 second news bit on tv.
Like this morning Fox 2, Randi said, the MLS group is asking the city and state for tax dollars for the new stadium. Well, yes and no. But her statement was miss
leading and intentionaly so if you ask me.
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They've always been dumb. FB just game them a platform to amplify their dumbness.sc4mayor wrote: ↑Dec 03, 2019It's amazing how dumb and ignorant Facebook has made certain segments of the population.
Yep, someone posted a Fox2 link in another thread that said "MLS group may need millions in state tax credits for new St. Louis soccer stadium"...Rooster wrote: ↑Dec 03, 2019Amen Mayor.sc4mayor wrote: ↑Dec 03, 2019I always forget about him haha. Then I'll randomly see him pop up in the Facebook comments on the PD news feed. Always ranting and raving (with horrendous grammar and syntax) about the Opera House and how ridiculous the programming is and that it's not getting used as it should. Somehow tying that in with every other development project downtown and how all those projects are worthless because the Opera House doesn't just do Opera anymore or something. I'd laugh at him if I wasn't so impressed with his dedication lol.Rooster wrote: ↑Dec 03, 2019I am surprised Ed Golterman did not show up the local news stations. He usually throws a hissy fit when the words stadium and tax dollars are used in the same
sentence
Speaking of comments like that, there were plenty of doozies on the FB thread for this article about how it's a bait and switch because they are using some tax credits (even though that was always part of the plan). It's amazing how dumb and ignorant Facebook has made certain segments of the population.
Well most of the population does not read newspapers. They get their info on a 20 second news bit on tv.
Like this morning Fox 2, Randi said, the MLS group is asking the city and state for tax dollars for the new stadium. Well, yes and no. But her statement was miss
leading and intentionaly so if you ask me.
...well of course it does. Those tax credits for site prep were always part of the plan.
Sounds like MLS to Charlotte on Friday. TIFWIW
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I believe KC still gets $5M per year for sports complexes. Our dome will be paid off by 2022 so those payments should end. St Louis metro produces 40% of the Missouri economy vs 20% for KC.sc4mayor wrote:Yep, someone posted a Fox2 link in another thread that said "MLS group may need millions in state tax credits for new St. Louis soccer stadium"...Rooster wrote: ↑Dec 03, 2019Amen Mayor.sc4mayor wrote: ↑Dec 03, 2019I always forget about him haha. Then I'll randomly see him pop up in the Facebook comments on the PD news feed. Always ranting and raving (with horrendous grammar and syntax) about the Opera House and how ridiculous the programming is and that it's not getting used as it should. Somehow tying that in with every other development project downtown and how all those projects are worthless because the Opera House doesn't just do Opera anymore or something. I'd laugh at him if I wasn't so impressed with his dedication lol.
Speaking of comments like that, there were plenty of doozies on the FB thread for this article about how it's a bait and switch because they are using some tax credits (even though that was always part of the plan). It's amazing how dumb and ignorant Facebook has made certain segments of the population.
Well most of the population does not read newspapers. They get their info on a 20 second news bit on tv.
Like this morning Fox 2, Randi said, the MLS group is asking the city and state for tax dollars for the new stadium. Well, yes and no. But her statement was miss
leading and intentionaly so if you ask me.
...well of course it does. Those tax credits for site prep were always part of the plan.
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Other reporters said the same thing and have since backtracked. Sounds like Charlotte will be probably be team 30 (I saw projected expansion fee of 300 mil or more) but it won’t be Friday. City council still needs to approve funds.dmelsh wrote: ↑Dec 03, 2019Sounds like MLS to Charlotte on Friday. TIFWIW
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Think it's happening.
https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/n ... urces.html
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The City of STL and #MLS4THELOU are hosting a Public Open House on @MLS
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The City of STL and #MLS4THELOU are hosting a Public Open House on @MLS
Stadium Plans and you’re invited! Join us on 12/19 from 11AM-7PM at the Pear Tree Inn on Market as we share more information about the project and answer your questions.
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I can't wait to find out the name and colors of the club.
MDFB balks at $30 million in tax credits for MLS Stadium putting construction start in limbo:
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... t-Dispatch
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... t-Dispatch
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^^^Typical for Missouri, get a great thing going, only to screw it up in the final stages.