I'm not saying it is, but if you try to describe the business to someone completely unfamiliar with it, without mentioning soccer, teams, expansion fees, broadcast revenue, etc., it sounds a whole lot like a Ponzi scheme...lolEbsy wrote: ↑Nov 09, 2019That's one word you could use. Hopefully this doesn't prove to be a house of cards that comes tumbling down.
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I think the important snippet not to be missed in that article is... "MLS owners would invest big in a money-losing enterprise, given that they’re also securing a long-term interest in the continued success of soccer in the North America."
MLS and the owners stand to make a decent amount of money on the any soccer related project in North America, including the World Cup, Copa America, etc. They are all buying into a bigger market than just MLS.
Now... if USMNT can start pulling their weight, it will be a huge win for MLS as well.
MLS and the owners stand to make a decent amount of money on the any soccer related project in North America, including the World Cup, Copa America, etc. They are all buying into a bigger market than just MLS.
Now... if USMNT can start pulling their weight, it will be a huge win for MLS as well.
Name suggestions in light of the recent local confirmed 200lb meteor that lit up the Arch and region:
1. Fireball(s)
2. Sonic Boom
3. Shooting Star(s)
4. Meteorite(s)
5. Lightening
6. Flash
7. Asteroid(s)
8. Comet(s)
They are also keeping with St. Louis' air and space history.
1. Fireball(s)
2. Sonic Boom
3. Shooting Star(s)
4. Meteorite(s)
5. Lightening
6. Flash
7. Asteroid(s)
8. Comet(s)
They are also keeping with St. Louis' air and space history.
The Kansas City Comets would probably object to Number 8.arch city wrote: ↑Nov 15, 2019Name suggestions in light of the recent local confirmed 200lb meteor that lit up the Arch and region:
1. Fireball(s)
2. Sonic Boom
3. Shooting Star(s)
4. Meteorite(s)
5. Lightening
6. Flash
7. Asteroid(s)
8. Comet(s)
They are also keeping with St. Louis' air and space history.
So, here is a replacement (and my personal fav):
8. St. Louis City (of) Iron Balls.
Based on the amount of pain displayed by soccer players after minor bumps and falls, I think we can rule out "Iron Balls".
While I’m sure it’s frowned upon, is there some hard and fast rule that says teams in different leagues can’t have the same name?
St. Louis Cardinals - Arizona Cardinals
New York Rangers - Texas Rangers
New York Jets - Winnipeg Jets
New York Giants - San Francisco Giants
Los Angeles Kings - Sacramento Kings
Carolina Panthers - Florida Panthers
St. Louis Cardinals - Arizona Cardinals
New York Rangers - Texas Rangers
New York Jets - Winnipeg Jets
New York Giants - San Francisco Giants
Los Angeles Kings - Sacramento Kings
Carolina Panthers - Florida Panthers
Arch City suggested Lightening, not Lightning.wabash wrote: ↑Nov 16, 2019You’re going Kansas City Comets over Tampa Bay Lightning?
The US Patent and Trademark Office would probably refuse the trademark application if any team (or anyone really) which had a similar trademark filed a protest. Even if it was granted, those with similar trademarks could file a trademark dilution lawsuit, which may or may not be successful, but if it was, the team may have to completely rebrand and the damages could be very large.sc4mayor wrote: ↑Nov 16, 2019While I’m sure it’s frowned upon, is there some hard and fast rule that says teams in different leagues can’t have the same name?
St. Louis Cardinals - Arizona Cardinals
New York Rangers - Texas Rangers
New York Jets - Winnipeg Jets
New York Giants - San Francisco Giants
Los Angeles Kings - Sacramento Kings
Carolina Panthers - Florida Panthers
Most of the teams you listed probably have reached some agreement with the original trademark holder, through negotiation or litigation, or in some cases so much time passed while they coexisted it would be tough to argue trademark dilution.
Lightening: (Noun) a drop in the level of the uterus during the last weeks of pregnancy as the head of the fetus engages in the pelvis.urbanitas wrote:Arch City suggested Lightening, not Lightning.wabash wrote: ↑Nov 16, 2019You’re going Kansas City Comets over Tampa Bay Lightning?
Interesting. I didn’t know that word. And interesting choice for a team name. I’m guessing it’s not taken by anyone else. Maybe a women’s team?
As much as I like your definition, I suspect this was the one arch city was suggesting:wabash wrote: ↑Nov 16, 2019Lightening: (Noun) a drop in the level of the uterus during the last weeks of pregnancy as the head of the fetus engages in the pelvis.urbanitas wrote:Arch City suggested Lightening, not Lightning.wabash wrote: ↑Nov 16, 2019You’re going Kansas City Comets over Tampa Bay Lightning?
Interesting. I didn’t know that word. And interesting choice for a team name. I’m guessing it’s not taken by anyone else. Maybe a women’s team?
verb
gerund or present participle: lightening
- make or become lighter or brighter.
"the sky began to lighten in the east"
My understanding of patents is that a patent like the team name Cardinal only applies within the sport in question and not to those outside of it. Just like if you put a patent on a color, you only get the patent for the product it is associated with, not exclusive rights to that color for all uses.
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Also, not necessarily true about same sport requirements. The Vegas Golden Knights had to work out a deal with the US Army and their Golden Knights parachute team.
Yeah, and a couple of universities as well. And even before that, they had to go from Black Knights to Knights to Golden Knights. That is as good example as any of just how difficult it is to find a name for a new professional sports franchise these days. Here is a summary of the naming saga with sources: Wikipedia - Vegas Golden Knights - Namechaifetz10 wrote: ↑Nov 17, 2019Also, not necessarily true about same sport requirements. The Vegas Golden Knights had to work out a deal with the US Army and their Golden Knights parachute team.
All the more reason to go with something uniquely St. Louis i.e. Gateway City United or Spirits of St. Louis.urbanitas wrote: ↑Nov 18, 2019Yeah, and a couple of universities as well. And even before that, they had to go from Black Knights to Knights to Golden Knights. That is as good example as any of just how difficult it is to find a name for a new professional sports franchise these days. Here is a summary of the naming saga with sources: Wikipedia - Vegas Golden Knights - Namechaifetz10 wrote: ↑Nov 17, 2019Also, not necessarily true about same sport requirements. The Vegas Golden Knights had to work out a deal with the US Army and their Golden Knights parachute team.
^"United" is so overdone around the league, and there are a few cities that call themselves "Gateway City". I don't like Spirits - it just makes me think of Caspar the Ghost or something, and I suspect a lot of people around the country will do the same, but if they lose the S and do something like Spirit of St. Louis (Football / Soccer / Athletic) Club, I think that would be much more appealing.
Also, the Vegas Golden Knights thing got me to thinking about the "Knights" name...
Saint Louis Crimson Knights would be an interesting way of tying in the city's namesake and dominant flag color without directly recalling the crusader issue. There are some prep and high school teams that use Crimson Knights, but I don't think there are any professional or college teams in North America with that name. I haven't checked the trademark database.
Saint Louis Crimson Knights would be an interesting way of tying in the city's namesake and dominant flag color without directly recalling the crusader issue. There are some prep and high school teams that use Crimson Knights, but I don't think there are any professional or college teams in North America with that name. I haven't checked the trademark database.
Then you’d have Harvard Crimson nerds and Alabama Crimson Tide jocks coming after you. A dangerous alliance.
wabash wrote: ↑Nov 19, 2019Then you’d have Harvard Crimson nerds and Alabama Crimson Tide jocks coming after you. A dangerous alliance.
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Additionally, is the flag crimson or red?
wabash wrote: ↑Nov 19, 2019Good point. It’s definitely red. Not Crimson.
Crimson / #dc143c
Yeah, definitely not crimson...
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