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PostAug 03, 2017#26

^ I meant the appeal of the shark bridge specifically, not the aquarium in general. those 2 million people aren't coming just for the shark bridge. also not saying a shark bridge is a bad idea, just that there must be a better way to design it so that there isn't 4 miles of rope obstructing the view into the tank.

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PostAug 05, 2017#27

urban_dilettante wrote:
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^ I meant the appeal of the shark bridge specifically, not the aquarium in general. those 2 million people aren't coming just for the shark bridge. also not saying a shark bridge is a bad idea, just that there must be a better way to design it so that there isn't 4 miles of rope obstructing the view into the tank.
I don't get the shark bridge thing either but maybe kids really like it. If they do then you might as well have it. I would rather just have a glasslike see thru floor you walk on over it. I am just happy to get what seems like a decent aquarium out of it.

PostOct 25, 2017#28

Construction starts in a week. Nov 2

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metr ... e-featured

This number is up.

The exhibits will hold a combined 1.3 million gallons over about 120,000 square feet, a spokeswoman said. That is a pretty good size.

Plans to open in May 2019. Ferris Wheel to open around the same time

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PostOct 25, 2017#29

Interesting i was thinking about this the other day imaging how a 200 ft ferris wheel will look on the skyline.
Nice to see this finally breaking ground.

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PostOct 25, 2017#30

Hopefully we can start activating the western half of gateway mall, as detailed in the Gateway Mall Master Plan. Would be a great avenue for visitors!

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PostOct 26, 2017#31

addxb2 wrote:
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Hopefully we can start activating the western half of gateway mall, as detailed in the Gateway Mall Master Plan. Would be a great avenue for visitors!
The Downtown Neighborhood Association has wrapped up a public engagement effort to ask what active uses the Downtown community wishes to see in the Gateway Mall west of Tucker. The Gateway Mall Master Plan allows for active uses, but no one was working towards implementing them.

We are currently arranging a meeting with the 2 aldermen whose wards overlap with that portion along with City Planning and Parks. We will also be bringing in the Gateway Mall Foundation. Once we have approvals for a general direction of what and where we can do something we'll move towards creating a management and sustainability plan for those uses and start seeking funds to make it happen.

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PostOct 26, 2017#32

Great to hear! Thanks!

PostOct 26, 2017#33

It'd be really cool if the developers took over designing the Union Station MetroLink Platform, especially underground. Cleaning it up, doing some interesting lighting, and marketing/placemaking, things that let you know you're at the Aquarium.

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PostOct 26, 2017#34

BellaVilla wrote:
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JaredOpsal wrote:
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addxb2 wrote:
Oct 25, 2017
Hopefully we can start activating the western half of gateway mall, as detailed in the Gateway Mall Master Plan. Would be a great avenue for visitors!
The Downtown Neighborhood Association has wrapped up a public engagement effort to ask what active uses the Downtown community wishes to see in the Gateway Mall west of Tucker. The Gateway Mall Master Plan allows for active uses, but no one was working towards implementing them.

We are currently arranging a meeting with the 2 aldermen whose wards overlap with that portion along with City Planning and Parks. We will also be bringing in the Gateway Mall Foundation. Once we have approvals for a general direction of what and where we can do something we'll move towards creating a management and sustainability plan for those uses and start seeking funds to make it happen.
Any chance they move to re-zone the parks in favor of development? Do we really need 21 block of parkland through downtown?

Seems like 15th-21st street have good access to the interstate and metrolink. They are very close to Savvis, Peabody Opera, City hall, Union station obviously. Would this be unpopular?
STL has too many parking lots to develop on before I would even consider giving away green space.

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PostOct 26, 2017#35

^ can't anyway w/o a public vote.

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PostOct 26, 2017#36

addxb2 wrote:
Oct 26, 2017
It'd be really cool if the developers took over designing the Union Station MetroLink Platform, especially underground. Cleaning it up, doing some interesting lighting, and marketing/placemaking, things that let you know you're at the Aquarium.
Be pretty cool if they could have the floor of one of the tanks replace part of the ceiling of the station. Now that'd be unique.

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PostOct 26, 2017#37

Trololzilla wrote:
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addxb2 wrote:
Oct 26, 2017
It'd be really cool if the developers took over designing the Union Station MetroLink Platform, especially underground. Cleaning it up, doing some interesting lighting, and marketing/placemaking, things that let you know you're at the Aquarium.
Be pretty cool if they could have the floor of one of the tanks replace part of the ceiling of the station. Now that'd be unique.
Knowing our fine city and its citizens, no doubt someone would try to shoot out the ceiling of the aquarium if it was over the metrolink platform.

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PostOct 27, 2017#38

Ebsy wrote:
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Knowing our fine city and its citizens, no doubt someone would try to shoot out the ceiling of the aquarium if it was over the metrolink platform.
Not sure anyone could shoot out acrylic of that thickness before they were set upon by the police/guards, but okay.

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PostOct 27, 2017#39

addxb2 wrote:
Oct 26, 2017
It'd be really cool if the developers took over designing the Union Station MetroLink Platform, especially underground. Cleaning it up, doing some interesting lighting, and marketing/placemaking, things that let you know you're at the Aquarium.
At the very least, they could replace one of the "Don't Shake Your Baby" posters with a photo of a beluga whale or something.

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PostOct 27, 2017#40

November 2nd this breaks ground according to their Facebook page. They also released the rendering of the mall area.

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PostOct 27, 2017#41

So I guess the picture you show is sort of this view now.


PostOct 27, 2017#42

Three other photos from their facebook site:





https://www.facebook.com/stlouisaquarium/

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PostOct 27, 2017#43

chriss752 wrote:
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November 2nd this breaks ground according to their Facebook page. They also released the rendering of the mall area.
huh... could use a little more pizazz.

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PostOct 28, 2017#44

Maybe so, but beats the h.e. double hockey sticks outta bootleg Rick Ross cds, am I right?

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PostNov 02, 2017#45

KMOX has new renderings of the Aquarium. Click through to see 'em all, but here are a couple of the more interesting ones:

1st and 2nd floor floorplans!



^There's a lot of detail there. Here's the IMG source if you want to zoom in and see more:
https://cbsstlouis.files.wordpress.com/ ... 170823.jpg
https://cbsstlouis.files.wordpress.com/ ... 170823.jpg

And here's an artistic rendering of an entrance:



Per the KMOX article, completion of the aquarium is expected in summer 2019. A groundbreaking ceremony will be held at Union Station Thursday at 10:30 am.

-RBB

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PostNov 03, 2017#46

Based on what I am seeing its hard to get excited for this.

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PostNov 03, 2017#47

It isn't as big as I was thinking it would be. The last report said 1.3 million gallons. Chattanooga is 1.1 mil. I compared them because they each have separate river/ocean exhibits and I thought the one in Chatt was pretty good. But this doesn't look near as big as the one in Chatt. It was two buildings and 3 or 4 stories tall. I was expecting this to take up more of the old mall. I went from being really excited to kind of indifferent. I hope they prove me wrong.

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PostNov 03, 2017#48

Always room for expansion.

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PostNov 03, 2017#49

bwcrow1s wrote:
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Always room for expansion.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. It's a bit disappointing it isn't opening with more exhibition space, but if looking at the floorplans there's lots of non-actuated real estate; the old Hooters/Houlihans space isn't filled at all, for example.

There's plenty of room for expansion if this proves successful (and it's hard to see it not being successful, honestly).

-RBB

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PostNov 03, 2017#50

I find the design uninspired. For those of us who went to the old 80's style mall in Union Station, it still looks too much like that eyesore, i.e. they didn't do a full gut rehab and it just looks like someone dropped a temporary looking acquatic exhibit into the middle of an abandoned 80's mall. Hopefully they will do more with this space to make it look more permanent and like it actually belongs there.

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