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Here's an early concept to redevelop the Cupple's Station area. It would have included renovation and new construction. The main feature was an arched, glass-enclosed arcade connecting four of the buildings:

framer wrote: ↑

Mar 25, 2017

Here's an early concept to redevelop the Cupple's Station area. It would have included renovation and new construction. The main feature was an arched, glass-enclosed arcade connecting four of the buildings:

When was this proposed?

chriss752 wrote:
When was this proposed?

Not too long ago. Mid 2000s maybe?

^That was a great proposal. I'm pretty sure I remember Clarence Harmon announcing it and having a big press conference and lots of hoopla. That actually did start to get the ball rolling on Cupples Station, although most of it never happened (which I'm actually okay with in the instance if the big glass atrium which also looked a bit too similar to the St. Louis Centre design).

wabash wrote: ↑

Mar 25, 2017

although most of it never happened (which I'm actually okay with in the instance if the big glass atrium which also looked a bit too similar to the St. Louis Centre design).

I actually liked the glass thingy. Kind of a poor man's version of Milan's Galerie Vittorio Emanuele.

I would still like to see the triangle of land in Cupples between the highway ramps developed as a pocket park.

The original design for the Stan Musial Bridge called for dramatically leaning towers and a more refined, artistic treatment of the cables. Also, the piers would have been on the shoreline, rather than in the water, creating a much longer central span. It would have been the longest clear span across the Mississippi, and the longest cable-stayed bridge in the Western Hemisphere.

Budget concerns resulted in a much more standard design.

That's sad that we never got the original bridge design


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I want to say the difference in price was pretty impressive too: a cool billion ten years ago vs. 300 million, as I recall. The original design would have had more lanes, as well, I believe. But only one more in each direction. It's lovely, but that's a lot of money. It's a shame, but I can understand the compromise. That said . . . yeah, it's pretty.

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Mar 28, 2017

Does anyone have a rendering of the high-rise that Opus proposed on Skinker just south of 801? I believe it was around 2004 or something. Needless to say, the NIMBYS shot that one down.

I've searched for that rendering myself, and haven't been able to find it. I'm pretty sure the West End Word featured it back when it was proposed. I don't remember the year, though.

Sure would have been a great addition to the Forest Park Skyline.

^A bit more info on the high rise proposed for 901 S. Skinker: According to The Days and NIghts of the Central West End, architect John Cohen proposed a 15-story, 15-unit building at Skinker and San Bonita. This was in 1983. Neighborhood opposition led him to reduce the building to 6 units on 3 floors.

stlgasm wrote:Moorlander- the rendering you posted was the original proposal for Lindell & Euclid, but Opus also proposed a tower (about 15 stories if I remember correctly) on Skinker just south of 801 S. Skinker. Residents of the single family homes killed it because they flipped out about traffic and shadows.

Whooooops



Was it called CornerStone Forest Park?
https://urbanstl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=72

^Interesting reading that CornerStone thread; must have been just a couple of months before I joined the Forum.

I'm still confused about which project is which; were there two proposals along Skinker? The one I remember was proposed in 1983 (see above). Perhaps this other CornerStone project (2005) was proposed for the grassy lot next to 801 S. Skinker. This Street View shows the 3-story Cohen building (which was scaled down from it's original 15), and a vacant lot between it and 801. I guess that's where Cornerstone tore down the house and wanted to build their tower.


https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6353484 ... 312!8i6656

So if things had worked out differently, we'd have two more modern high rises on Skinker right now. Sigh.

^Why was that cancelled


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Yeah, that was a cool one. It was designed by a well-known Mexican architect, IIRC. I don't think it was ever a serious proposal, though; just SLU playing a game of "what if".