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PostDec 14, 2016#626

Some great reporting by the Post here. Disturbing that a $5,000 donation/bribe is setting St. Louis County transit investment back at least six months.

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PostDec 14, 2016#627

St.Louis1764 wrote:Stenger is nothing more than the continuation of the great divide! Lets keep this in mind the only reason the city wants to merge or become part of Saint.Louis county is to hide its high crime rate among other negative things #Chesterfield.
Wake up Saint.Louis County the future is now not tomorrow or another 100 years from now the N-S line is essential for the entirety of Saint.Louis
regardless of why "the city" wants to merge with the county, there are substantial savings and efficiencies to be had by doing so.

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PostDec 14, 2016#628

If the city rejoined the County it wouldn't change the crime stats one single iota. The city boundaries would remain exactly as they are now, regardless of if it was part of the County or not. Unless the city and county merge into one giant single municipality, crime stats will continue to be reported exactly the same as they are currently. It's not as if Chicago crime stats include Glenview and Winnetka just because they're both in Cook County...

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PostDec 14, 2016#629

Who are the likely challengers to Stenger in 2018? It would be refreshing to see someone swept into office running on collaboration, and consolidation. It would give me hope for a vote on re-entry and/or a full merger in the near future.

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PostDec 15, 2016#630

The $5k donation/bribe seems almost comically cheap. I guess they thought they wouldn't get caught, because this doesn't seem like it was worth the risk as all.

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PostDec 16, 2016#631

^Comically cheap, and sad that it was enough for Stenger to line up his troops on their side. One would like to think it'd cost more to buy the County Executive's favor.

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PostDec 16, 2016#632

Man we should just do a gofundme to collect $20k and probably could get Stenger to select the N/S route

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PostDec 18, 2016#633

Somebody'll get ideas from that and think all public services can be funded with voluntary campaigns like that. Too many already are. But yes, I suspect a well orchestrated campaign could do a lot better very quickly.

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PostDec 25, 2016#634

Feds agree to give Seattle $2B in low-interest loans for light rail
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-new ... ight-rail/

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PostDec 27, 2016#635

I'm curious how much if any that would help St. Louis with low interest loans. So is it a loan instead of matching now or is that just another option for cities to take?

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PostDec 27, 2016#636

joelo wrote:I'm curious how much if any that would help St. Louis with low interest loans. So is it a loan instead of matching now or is that just another option for cities to take?
With a TIFIA loan, repayment can be stretched over as many as 35 years after a project is substantially completed with repayment beginning as late as five years after substantial completion of the project. To qualify for a TIFIA loan, the region needs to identify a stream of funds to pay back the loan. The TIFIA financed portion of the project could be used as the non-federal (i.e. state or local) match to the extent that it is repaid with non-federal funds, with a goal of getting as close to a 50 percent local match as possible.

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PostDec 29, 2016#637

Ft. Worth Rail Expansion Gets Final Funding Piece
https://nextcity.org/daily/entry/fort-w ... al-funding

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PostJan 14, 2017#638

A change of tune in St Charles?

"Ehlmann said St. Charles County is looking at MetroLink connections to MasterCard’s and Nike’s operations in the county."

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... j=77057991

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PostJan 14, 2017#639

Stenger convinced someone to drop some confusion in the watter to sully the chances for North South next? Something smells off about that.

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PostJan 14, 2017#640

moorlander wrote:
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A change of tune in St Charles?

"Ehlmann said St. Charles County is looking at MetroLink connections to MasterCard’s and Nike’s operations in the county."

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... j=77057991
MetroLink to Winghaven? Seriously? Someone posed that as an idea worth investigating? Without sarcasm? :roll:

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PostJan 18, 2017#641

I think I have posted this in another thread but I still don't understand why the line can't be scaled back a bit or done in stages to make it easier to swallow and more manageable.

Someone once told me it's a black and white issue and that it is similar to when the YMCA's were built. Being a transplant this totally baffling as I frequent the YCMA in Carondolet and it is one of the most diverse places I visit on regular basis. Why is the south side seen as being white when it is one of the most diverse areas in the city? Just perception?

Either way, I am surprised it hasn't been brought up to do it in stages possibly starting from downtown out to the new NGA and then maybe to Cherokee to start. Is it more an issue that it doesn't hit the county if broken up in stages?

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PostJan 18, 2017#642

ImprovSTL wrote:
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I think I have posted this in another thread but I still don't understand why the line can't be scaled back a bit or done in stages to make it easier to swallow and more manageable.

Someone once told me it's a black and white issue and that it is similar to when the YMCA's were built. Being a transplant this totally baffling as I frequent the YCMA in Carondolet and it is one of the most diverse places I visit on regular basis. Why is the south side seen as being white when it is one of the most diverse areas in the city? Just perception?

Either way, I am surprised it hasn't been brought up to do it in stages possibly starting from downtown out to the new NGA and then maybe to Cherokee to start. Is it more an issue that it doesn't hit the county if broken up in stages?
Ironic you mention that because NGA to Cherokee is exactly what is being proposed as phase 1.

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PostJan 18, 2017#643

goat314 wrote:
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ImprovSTL wrote:
Jan 18, 2017
I think I have posted this in another thread but I still don't understand why the line can't be scaled back a bit or done in stages to make it easier to swallow and more manageable.

Someone once told me it's a black and white issue and that it is similar to when the YMCA's were built. Being a transplant this totally baffling as I frequent the YCMA in Carondolet and it is one of the most diverse places I visit on regular basis. Why is the south side seen as being white when it is one of the most diverse areas in the city? Just perception?

Either way, I am surprised it hasn't been brought up to do it in stages possibly starting from downtown out to the new NGA and then maybe to Cherokee to start. Is it more an issue that it doesn't hit the county if broken up in stages?
Ironic you mention that because NGA to Cherokee is exactly what is being proposed as phase 1.
I must have missed the phases. Are they listed somewhere?

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PostJan 18, 2017#644

^ I believe at the hearing a couple weeks ago at Nebula it was contemplated a first phase could be around $600M (with half from Feds) for Cherokee to downtown to NGA to Fairground Park. 2022 at earliest for construction. iirc.

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PostJan 19, 2017#645

Phase 1 sounds pretty awesome. Can someone remind us what the preferred route is?

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PostJan 19, 2017#646

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Phase 1 sounds pretty awesome. Can someone remind us what the preferred route is?

PostJan 19, 2017#647

^ The dark green is phase 1.

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PostJan 19, 2017#648

This would run as a what? A Streetcar like system similar to Minneapolis? Or a system similar to how we have it now, completely separate from the street?

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PostJan 19, 2017#649

chriss752 wrote:
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This would run as a what? A Streetcar like system similar to Minneapolis? Or a system similar to how we have it now, completely separate from the street?
Streetcar like Minneapolis.

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PostJan 19, 2017#650

goat314 wrote:
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^ The dark green is phase 1.
the dark orange is the NGA alternative, which would run down Delmar I believe before heading up Jefferson... wasn't at the hearing, but it sounded like this may be in greater favor now than the original 14th St/NoFlo plan for running out of downtown.

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