Union - Lindell Bridge Replacement

airforceguy1 · PostSep 15, 2022#12022-09-15T01:31+00:00

Glad to see this bridge being replaced. Work is slated to begin in 2025..

The 93-year-old bridge has a tragic past. In July of 2018 a 22-year-old driver lost control while turning in the intersection and struck the concrete decorative railing. A one-ton piece of concrete fell off, landing on a car driving below on Forest Park Parkway. Jan Torissi-Mokway, wife of former St. Louis Police Chief Joe Mokwa, was killed in the accident.
The city is asking the public to provide input to help engineers design the new structure.
“So by bringing in community voices, we’re able to make decisions that are based on the needs of the people who use it the most,” said Dunne.
Here’s a link to an online survey. The public has until October 14 to weigh in on the project. The bridge is expected to cost $25 million and construction is scheduled to begin in 2025.

https://www.kmov.com/2022/09/14/93-year-old-unionlindell-bridge-slated-replacement/

quincunx · PostSep 15, 2022#22022-09-15T01:50+00:00

Link to the survey.

https://form.jotform.com/222376908032051

PostSep 27, 2022#32022-09-27T20:52+00:00

Reminder to fill out the survey.
Here's the project webpage-

https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/d ... uction.cfm

symphonicpoet · PostSep 28, 2022#42022-09-28T02:07+00:00

^Already did.

And thank you.

quincunx · PostJun 10, 2023#52023-06-10T00:24+00:00

BB62 has money for the bridge replacement

Federal: $20,000,000.00 Surface Transportation Program – Suballocated (STP-S)
Local Match: $5,000,000.00 Total – To be determined based on Citywide Capital funding as recommended by the Capital Committee and approved by the Estimate and Apportionment Committee and Board of Aldermen

https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/c ... BBId=15274

symphonicpoet · PostJun 10, 2023#62023-06-10T06:54+00:00

^I'm nervous, but there've been enough good street diets and road calming projects that maybe I can be hopeful that this will be done right and it will look attractive. We need more wins.

quincunx · PostJun 10, 2023#72023-06-10T14:15+00:00

I hope they hire a Dutch outfit to design it.

stlurbanist · PostJun 10, 2023#82023-06-10T16:20+00:00

is this the same bridge where some structure of the bridge fell on a driving motorist who lost her life? Such an awful accident.

quincunx · PostJun 10, 2023#92023-06-10T16:32+00:00

Yes. The sort of large magnitude damage one can do with a car, even with an oopsies.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 8db07.html

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 9d15c.html

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 42eb9.html

sc4mayor · PostJun 10, 2023#102023-06-10T16:52+00:00

Hoping for this (or something similar):

symphonicpoet · PostJun 11, 2023#112023-06-11T05:38+00:00

^Yeah, that'd be great. I'm not sure why grade separation has gotten such a bad name. It works. If done well it can make life easier for pedestrians, motorists, and bicyclists alike. That intersection clearly had a traffic circle at one time and needs one again. I wish someone would show that to the state for the Grand and Forest Park intersection. It's so much better than anything I've seen proposed for Grand and FP.

quincunx · PostJul 30, 2023#122023-07-30T23:35+00:00

This is on the draft list of Transportation Improvement Program (TIP) projects. $22M Federal, $5.5M local.

https://www.ewgateway.org/transportatio ... c-comment/

PostDec 28, 2023#132023-12-28T16:15+00:00

Jan 30 4-7 pm, Forest Park Visitor's Center.

dweebe · PostDec 28, 2023#142023-12-28T19:31+00:00

I know the replacement is very badly needed: but damn, this is going to suck and mess with a lot of routes.

Worst case scenario: could we be looking at a months long shutdown on Metrolink?

quincunx · PostDec 28, 2023#152023-12-28T20:00+00:00

I don't recall many shutdowns when the DeBaliviere bridge was replaced.

dweebe · PostDec 29, 2023#162023-12-29T01:05+00:00

If an intersection was ever a top candidate for a round about....

quincunx · PostJan 03, 2024#172024-01-03T13:50+00:00

No roundabout

NextSTL - First Look at the Union-Lindell Bridge Replacement

https://nextstl.com/2024/01/first-look- ... placement/

stlurbanist · PostJan 03, 2024#182024-01-03T15:54+00:00

quincunx wrote: ↑
Jan 03, 2024
No roundabout

NextSTL - First Look at the Union-Lindell Bridge Replacement

https://nextstl.com/2024/01/first-look- ... placement/

and looks like there will be no connector from FP parkway to Union blvd?

dbInSouthCity · PostJan 03, 2024#192024-01-03T16:03+00:00

stlurbanist wrote: ↑
Jan 03, 2024
quincunx wrote: ↑
Jan 03, 2024
No roundabout

NextSTL - First Look at the Union-Lindell Bridge Replacement

https://nextstl.com/2024/01/first-look- ... placement/
and looks like there will be no connector from FP parkway to Union blvd?

I think there is, if you look at the labelled rendering.

quincunx · PostJan 03, 2024#202024-01-03T16:28+00:00

stlurbanist wrote: ↑
Jan 03, 2024
quincunx wrote: ↑
Jan 03, 2024
No roundabout

NextSTL - First Look at the Union-Lindell Bridge Replacement

https://nextstl.com/2024/01/first-look- ... placement/
and looks like there will be no connector from FP parkway to Union blvd?

There is one. I encourage you to read the article.

_nomad_ · PostJan 03, 2024#212024-01-03T17:05+00:00

Looks like more car-first/everyone-else-is-an-afterthought infrastructure. It's too bad that reaching the park on foot or even biking in the area can't be a better experience.

STLEnginerd · PostJan 03, 2024#222024-01-03T19:29+00:00

The big round about is a way better concept and because it is spread over a wider area, you could probably build a lot of it without completely disrupting the current traffic flow

symphonicpoet · PostJan 04, 2024#232024-01-04T02:51+00:00

Disappointing. This is a perfect case for a traffic circle. Is there any statistical argument against one? I've rather gotten the impression they're better for pedestrians, cyclists, and drivers alike. (Not to mention maintenance and the environment.) Am I missing something? I know US drivers are resistant, but . . . we can grow up if that's really the only argument here.

PeterXCV · PostJan 04, 2024#242024-01-04T03:53+00:00

Yeah I would've been harsher than the author was about how the streets department didn't even bother to extend the protected bikelanes down Union into the park. Like they really do not think about transportation comprehensively at all.

stlurbanist · PostJan 04, 2024#252024-01-04T15:56+00:00

symphonicpoet wrote: ↑
Jan 04, 2024
Disappointing. This is a perfect case for a traffic circle. Is there any statistical argument against one? I've rather gotten the impression they're better for pedestrians, cyclists, and drivers alike. (Not to mention maintenance and the environment.) Am I missing something? I know US drivers are resistant, but . . . we can grow up if that's really the only argument here.

I believe (to my naive mind) that the frequent forest park events would be a nightmare (for a roundabout) and cause traffic backup. Are you familiar with round about at I-64 and Hampton going out of zoo?