Massage Luxe seems to be everywhere now. It must be a recession-friendly industry; small luxuries that won't break the budget, I guess.
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Excited to finally have an Art Institute but the location..... I always thought the Gen American Building would make a great home for an art School.
New to the area Art Institue of St. Louis will open in approx. 34k sq ft and house roughly 1000 students.
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... en-in.html
construction photos here
http://thestreetsofstcharles.com/construction.html
New to the area Art Institue of St. Louis will open in approx. 34k sq ft and house roughly 1000 students.
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... en-in.html
construction photos here
http://thestreetsofstcharles.com/construction.html
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Construction on the overall project is really coming along. The first building is nearly finished and work has already begun on other blocks. This project finally has gotten off the ground!
It will be interesting to see how it is integrated with Main Street St. Charles which is on the other side of the highway...
It will be interesting to see how it is integrated with Main Street St. Charles which is on the other side of the highway...
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^^ very sad that the demographics of the region make Saint Charles attractive as the home for the Art Institute.... how much better would it be for the students to be downtown in Gen Am or on Washington, etc.
Also, St. Louis Business Journal had a recent article that St. Chas retail is back to pre-recession levels and that residents are less dependent upon having to cross the river to the county. Essentially, it is becoming ever more seperated from the rest of the region.
Also, St. Louis Business Journal had a recent article that St. Chas retail is back to pre-recession levels and that residents are less dependent upon having to cross the river to the county. Essentially, it is becoming ever more seperated from the rest of the region.
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Dewey's Pizza is expanding here.
what I found interesting from the article is this....
Dewey’s Pizza is looking to add two or three additional locations in the St. Louis area over the coming years, Justice said. He’s floated options all over, from the Central West End, south city, downtown, Creve Couer and even in O’Fallon, Illinois. No firm plans have been made yet.
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/blog ... -area.html
what I found interesting from the article is this....
Dewey’s Pizza is looking to add two or three additional locations in the St. Louis area over the coming years, Justice said. He’s floated options all over, from the Central West End, south city, downtown, Creve Couer and even in O’Fallon, Illinois. No firm plans have been made yet.
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/blog ... -area.html
I was out here (at "The Streets of St. Charles") for the first time this weekend (for lunch at Prasino). I am going to say something controversial: This is the best new construction development built in the St. Louis region this decade. It is not TOD, but it is one of the only actual mixed use developments I have seen in this region. It is similar to The Boulevard in Richmond Heights, but with more of an office and education component with the Art Institute of St. Louis on-site.
Yes, it is still currently mostly surface parking, but I think that will change over the course of the next decade. They are currently building a new urban scaled, street oriented AMC Theater adjacent to the residential building. I think a lot of middle income young professionals are going to find this the best option for decent apartments in the region.
Now if only St. Louis County/City could get something half as good off the ground. If this is St. Charles county's new strategy, St. Louis county has a lot of catching up to do.
Yes, it is still currently mostly surface parking, but I think that will change over the course of the next decade. They are currently building a new urban scaled, street oriented AMC Theater adjacent to the residential building. I think a lot of middle income young professionals are going to find this the best option for decent apartments in the region.
Now if only St. Louis County/City could get something half as good off the ground. If this is St. Charles county's new strategy, St. Louis county has a lot of catching up to do.
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^ I agree that it is a great option to consider if you want to live in the Saint Charles/Maryland Hts. area... Main Street and Old Saint Charles are pretty accessible and you have the Katy Trail right in your backyard. However, it is still rather isolated and I don't think it is going to pull in a lot of young professionals who are really looking for the type of cumulative vibrancy that say the Central Corridor can provide.
For example, whether the Highlands mixed-use project may or may not be "better" than the Streets, it offers much more accessibility to surrounding vibrant areas. Again I think it would be a good option to look at if you were a young person looking to be close to say your job at Ed Jones or Earth City but it has its limits for broader appeal.
For example, whether the Highlands mixed-use project may or may not be "better" than the Streets, it offers much more accessibility to surrounding vibrant areas. Again I think it would be a good option to look at if you were a young person looking to be close to say your job at Ed Jones or Earth City but it has its limits for broader appeal.
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I have a buddy from Pittsburgh who moved in here and loves it. He told me last night that they were advised internally that Dewey's Pizza and Whole Foods would be going in soon.
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Streets of Saint Charles seems like a spoof of what was a pretty good crime show back in its day.
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I once considered taking some classes at the Art Institute of St. Louis until I realized where it was: St. Charles. And it's smaller than a baby dick. What a joke. It should be next to the Grand MetroLink station on one of those gargantuan vacant lots. Maybe I would have stayed in MO for college if that were the case.
As far as the entire development goes, however, it is a step in the right direction for St. Charles. Maybe in 20 years it will kind of resemble an actual small city.
As far as the entire development goes, however, it is a step in the right direction for St. Charles. Maybe in 20 years it will kind of resemble an actual small city.
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Dewey's Pizza has been letting residents stop in for a soft opening run. The movie theater is finishing up too. My friend lives in the complex and she's really enjoying the area but that might be a combination of the Bar Louie happy hour prices and the Prasino banana bread french toast.
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Why can't the Maplewood MetroLink Station attract a development like this?flipflopju wrote:Dewey's Pizza has been letting residents stop in for a soft opening run. The movie theater is finishing up too. My friend lives in the complex and she's really enjoying the area but that might be a combination of the Bar Louie happy hour prices and the Prasino banana bread french toast.
I've been saying for a few years that either side of Manchester between the Metrolink tracks and Laclede Station Rd would be ideal for a mixed retail/residential development.Gateway City wrote:Why can't the Maplewood MetroLink Station attract a development like this?flipflopju wrote:Dewey's Pizza has been letting residents stop in for a soft opening run. The movie theater is finishing up too. My friend lives in the complex and she's really enjoying the area but that might be a combination of the Bar Louie happy hour prices and the Prasino banana bread french toast.
Why not? It's Maplewood; not Clayton, Brentwood or another sexy/wealthy suburb.
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Why can't the Maplewood MetroLink Station attract a development like this?
I don't think it has anything to do with sexiness. First off Maplewood isn't even that poor its easily one of the more desirable suburbs in the inner ring after Clayton, UCity, and Webster Groves. It seems to me that for developers active in the region proximity to a major interstate is more important than proximity to transit. It seems silly that current trends seem to promote mixed use projects immediately adjacent to interstates but its hard to deny that is the primary motivating factor.Why not? It's Maplewood; not Clayton, Brentwood or another sexy/wealthy suburb.
Fair point about highway visibility. But household median income (per Wikipedia)STLEnginerd wrote:Why can't the Maplewood MetroLink Station attract a development like this?I don't think it has anything to do with sexiness. First off Maplewood isn't even that poor its easily one of the more desirable suburbs in the inner ring after Clayton, UCity, and Webster Groves. It seems to me that for developers active in the region proximity to a major interstate is more important than proximity to transit. It seems silly that current trends seem to promote mixed use projects immediately adjacent to interstates but its hard to deny that is the primary motivating factor.Why not? It's Maplewood; not Clayton, Brentwood or another sexy/wealthy suburb.
Maplewood: $29,151
Clayton: $64,148
UCity: $75,902
Webster Groves: $60,524
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First off what the what? Ucity has a higher median income than Clayton...?????
You make a fair point, and for the sake of completeness the median income of St. Charles in in the low 50s. I guess both are significant factors.
Honestly I never thought of Maplewood as poor the neighborhoods are fairly well kept and the downtown is delightful. I find the data you present a little counter to my impressions of the city.
You make a fair point, and for the sake of completeness the median income of St. Charles in in the low 50s. I guess both are significant factors.
Honestly I never thought of Maplewood as poor the neighborhoods are fairly well kept and the downtown is delightful. I find the data you present a little counter to my impressions of the city.
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don't always trust the wiki! check the US Census Quickfacts site.
I would imagine it has something to do with the state of Hanley and Manchester around there currently. Its embarrassing how poor the pedestrian experience is along those roads, try walking a week after a big rain- absolutely flooded. Also between Sunnen's big campus, the way deer creek cuts through the Brentwood landscape, and the overall mess of topography, well it would take quite some imagination to see a development here. The Northwest corner of Brentwood and Hanley has been a failed development, complete with boards and signs for probably over a decade.
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Two parallel streets. Brentwood and Hanley don't intersect.RuskiSTL wrote:The Northwest corner of Brentwood and Hanley
Whoops, Manchester and Hanleyricke002 wrote:Two parallel streets. Brentwood and Hanley don't intersect.RuskiSTL wrote:The Northwest corner of Brentwood and Hanley
Maplewood has no clue what to do with their Metro stations, much less anything about Urban design and planning. The Manchester station has chain link fences up keeping out the folks who live in the homes immediately to the east. There are beautiful sidewalks that extend to... the broken asphault 'sidewalk' in front of the nasty unkempt weed-ridden parking lot for Midwest Pool to the east, and quite literally to a dirt path in front of a vacant lot to the west. And of course then there's the infamous Sunnen Station development, where they actually drove hundreds of residents away so they could put a car dealership next to that station.
Maplewood has made it clear they care more about attracting businesses and auto traffic than attracting new (or really even keeping current) residents. It's a shame.
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Maplewood has made it clear they care more about attracting businesses and auto traffic than attracting new (or really even keeping current) residents. It's a shame.
-RBB
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Pieology opened up recently and Drury is adding a seven story hotel that should be very similar to the Brentwood one that opened a year or two ago:
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt ... 0aebf.html
This development is doing quite well (unsurprisingly).
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt ... 0aebf.html
This development is doing quite well (unsurprisingly).
That's not all that is coming soon to Streets of St. Charles. Still to come are P.F. Chang's, Noodles and Co., Firebirds Wood Fired Grill, Supercuts, Picasso's Coffee, and MOD. It's good to hear about the Drury. Every time I'm in that area, I see another coming soon sign for something.