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Post2:49 PM - Jul 14#8201

SB in BH wrote:
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courtland wrote:Why wasn't the innovation district being worked on concurrently?  
There was like a 45% chance Kehoe would veto it lmao

Also as usual, slopulist lefties on Reddit pretending this bill is comparable at all to a football stadium handout.

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Apologies, I'm old and detached from online political debate (this site excluded). What is a "slopulist leftie" and how are they comparing this to sportsball subsidies?
Slopulist lefties are people on the left who take populist positions for the sake of taking them, not understanding the nuance behind the position.

In this case, I have seen some try to make out this bill as a "handout" to developers like last year's stadium bill was a handout to billionaire owners. They are partially correct, however, in this case, this "handout" directly helps one of the state's biggest problems in an excess of unused office space, it will directly help create more housing through conversion of that office space, it will help more development of new housing, entertainment, lodging, and office generally, it directly helps urban centers, and there will be more of a direct tax revenue impact for both municipalities and the state than with the stadium subsidies. So opposing it because it's a "handout" is dumb and slopulist.

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Post2:50 PM - Jul 14#8202

kg2024 wrote:
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addxb2 wrote:
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Rams bills allocating $55M and HB 3231 signed on the same day. Could be the biggest day in government action to lift up downtown this decade. Let’s hope the innovation district is created quickly.

Explore St. Louis takes control of Dome and receives powers and duties of the Sports Complex Authority (RSA) beginning Aug. 28, 2026.

Big summer!
Additional details about the $55M appropriated for Downtown (full bill language here):

The amended bill focuses this money on the implementation of the Design Downtown STL neighborhood plan that was adopted in 2020 and is the formal roadmap for revitalizing Downtown & Downtown West, which had significant public input. This is an important amendment because it keeps the use of the funds in line with the community's desires and existing goals and hopefully minimizes another period of vision-planning and indecision.

Within the $55M Downtown Neighborhood Plan Implementation Fund there are subdivisions as follows:
  • Strategic Major Capital Projects Fund - $30M
           - Supporting long-term vacant building stabilization and redevelopment
           - Supporting Downtown streetscape, pedestrian, green space, and mobility capital projects ($10M minimum on projects like these)
  • Riverfront Fund - $15M
          - For increasing commercial activity and pedestrian access; signage, wayfinding, beautification, accessibility, and urban activation support infrastructure;  and incentivizing Riverfront ground-level development and improving river-oriented attractions (like a boat dock for river tours and cruises).
  • Downtown Retail and Events Program Fund - $10M
         - To support "active" recommendations in the neighborhood plan such as: strategic retail and restaurant activation along major corridors including sidewalk cafes, parklets, Open Streets, facade improvements, white-boxing retail locations, etc.
        - Creation of a public-private partnership fund to support the recruitment of sporting events ($2.5M minimum)

It will be interesting to see in the coming months what city departments will come up with on implementation plans and what features of the Design Downtown STL Plan will be focused on. Hopefully some of these things can be done with in-house staff to avoid giving funds away to consultants and lengthy planning timelines and things can just get done, its time!
I'd like to see there be some funds to paint dilapidated train bridges downtown. The bridges coming across the Poplar & the bridges south of Busch by Purina look awful & send a terrible signal to visitors. Paint them with the St. Louis flag, the Arch, Cardinals - Blues. As much as I despise taggers, they usually leave art alone.  I hope the crumbling sidewalks are part of the plan. I still think some kind of McBarge floating restaurant would be a great attraction on the river. Doesn't have to be a McDonalds, but that would be cool to bring back. Better signage by the Arch, into the Landing would be nice. 
I'm still for beautifying & stabilizing dilapidated buildings north & south of downtown, so visitors passing through on 70 & 44 are not seeing a bunch of decayed, burned out buildings. That drive down 70 into downtown is a bad look. 

Also, it would be cool to get some big time concerts under the Arch for the 2028 Olympic games here. There should be an Olympic symbol placed near CityPark after the 2028 games to commemorate the fact that actual Olympic games were played here. 

I am very excited that Kehoe signed 3231 & the City is finally spending the Rams money. It is a shame that the tornado happened, but it had to be addressed. 

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Post2:51 PM - Jul 14#8203

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:Here is that plan

Reading through this really brings me back. It's crazy how much can change in six years. Still a lot of good stuff. RIP the garment district, I thought that was a good idea but I guess it just ran out of steam. 

One of my biggest gripes with this plan is that they don't seem to want to push mixed use residential north of Lucas Ave or south of the train tracks (IE page 118) 

Downtown operates as an island (although now at least has some nice bike infrastructure connections) and IMO we need to be focusing on rebuilding these outer areas just as much as the core. Stitching downtown back into the cities greater urban fabric should be a macro level priority for STL
I think if the core of downtown could get closer to that of Indianapolis, for example, it would become much easier to get the edges of downtown developed, as opposed to doing it the other way around or simultaneously.

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Post3:29 PM - Jul 14#8204

The Design Downtown plan would also be a sufficient document for the Master Plan requirement for the Missouri Innovation District. Assisting further is the Executive Branch (Mayor) has individual authority to request the district. Limited risk that creating the district gets caught in alders drawing lines. 

I expect the district will match that of the planning area for Design Downtown.

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Post4:10 PM - Jul 14#8205

The boundaries of the Design Downtown STL plan are the same as the official city neighborhood boundaries of Downtown + Downtown West (bounded by the river, Chouteau, Jefferson, and Cole). The plan largely includes all of the other prerequisites for the "Master Plan" that the innovation zone bill outlines:
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Post10:35 PM - Jul 14#8206

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... t-new.html

Toastique will open later this year at 100 N Broadway. Their hours will be 7 AM to 3 PM.

Additionally, they are adding a new fitness center on the 3rd floor of the building.

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Post10:21 PM - Jul 15#8207

dbInSouthCity wrote:
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Sybergs is closing on the 18th, that's no rumor.   City SC has an intention to re-develop everything from the stadium going west to Jefferson and to do that, the states MODESA bill, which built BPV, was extending this past session for Millenium, next phase of BPV and to include soccer complex (also KC Current complex).  MODESA lets the developer keep 85% of sales and income tax generated on site for 30 years to finance the project. 
Which will have renderings first? Airport or CITY Pitch Village?

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Post4:59 AM - Jul 16#8208

StlAlex wrote:CBRE's 2nd Quarter office report for St. Louis shows a new lease at 200 N Broadway for 58,000 square feet for law firm Maune Raichle Hartley French & Mudd.

They are currently based at 1015 Locust, a pretty ugly office building that I'd imagine is struggling vacancy wise.

I haven't seen any news articles about it so I obviously don't know the details, but it's probably safe to assume they are just moving their office.

For 200 N Broadway, this is a much needed tanant to help replace FleishmanHilliard and Morgan and Morgan, who both left recently.

I wish CBRE and Colliers posted all their leasing activity instead of just the largest ones.

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https://www.colliers.com/-/media/files/ ... 26-q2.ashx

Colliers office report says they will be moving into the new office at 200 N Broadway in Q1 of 2027.

This is a pretty good office move for downtown, will boost occupancy of a building we really want to see do better.

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Post11:05 PM - Jul 16#8209

kg2024 wrote:
4:10 PM - Jul 14
The boundaries of the Design Downtown STL plan are the same as the official city neighborhood boundaries of Downtown + Downtown West (bounded by the river, Chouteau, Jefferson, and Cole). The plan largely includes all of the other prerequisites for the "Master Plan" that the innovation zone bill outlines:
I just realized, they'll want the Wells Fargo campus in the innovation district. That will either be an incentive to prevent their employment plateau or a necessary incentive to redevelop parts of the campus. 

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Post7:21 PM - Jul 21#8210

Just bizarre 


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On related note


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Post5:57 PM - Jul 22#8212

StlAlex wrote:
4:40 AM - Jul 10
I wish CBRE and Colliers posted all their leasing activity instead of just the largest ones.
That would be an extremely long list!

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Post6:31 PM - Jul 22#8213

Jallen26 wrote:
StlAlex wrote:
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I wish CBRE and Colliers posted all their leasing activity instead of just the largest ones.
That would be an extremely long list!
And youd be damn sure I'd look through most of it😂

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Post8:15 PM - Jul 22#8214

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... rties.html

Oliver Properties is opening a new office concept at 1017 Olive St. called "The Therm." They dsscribe it as Class B+, high amenity, flexible office space.

It takes up 23,000 square feet and offers furnished office space ranging from 900 to 8,000 square foot suites. The build out cost $500,000.

Amenities include a kitchen, coffee lounge, conference rooms, phone rooms, and a podcast studio. The amenities will be available to all the buildings tenants.

One tenant has already signed a new lease and moved in.

The building's current tenants include Oliver Properties, Less Annoying CRM, Simple Rose, GDCI, Terminal Railroad, and Manor Real Estate.

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Post5:27 PM - Jul 25#8215

Schnucks downtown temporarily closed.

https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/schnu ... stigation/

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Post5:52 PM - Jul 25#8216

that store is probably on life support

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Post6:05 PM - Jul 25#8217

A crew from bodily waste is cleaning up the blood. Stabbed in neck. Lots of blood. They hope to reopen by 3pm today.

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Post6:09 PM - Jul 25#8218

2 frequent flyers were arguing at Locust and 9th, one stabbed the other and the victim ran to Schnucks to get an officer.  Serious injury but not expected to be fatal.  

Post6:10 PM - Jul 25#8219

chris fuller wrote:
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that store is probably on life support
I think you said that during covid and again 2 years ago 

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Post6:13 PM - Jul 25#8220

The stabbing was fatal. Confirmed.

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Post7:28 PM - Jul 25#8221

Man if only the police were under state control.....oh wait a minute.

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Post8:01 PM - Jul 25#8222

Did they have anything to do with Mark Twain?

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Post1:43 AM - Jul 26#8223

47k at the Dome earlier this week
40k split between Busch, Enterprise, and Stifel Friday
Over 70k split between Busch, Enterprise, and Energizer tonight
Monday has a Cubs-Cards game and a show at Enterprise, probably at least 50k between the two.

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Post2:15 AM - Jul 26#8224

addxb2 wrote:Did they have anything to do with Mark Twain?
It has everything to do with the fact our society's answer to social disorder and drug addiction is to spend more money on ineffective law enforcement, shut down affordable housing, and make homelessness illegal. Stuff like this is the inevitable outcome of a society as thoroughly sick as the United States, and especially Missouri, is.

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Post9:02 PM - Jul 26#8225

leeharveyawesome wrote:
6:13 PM - Jul 25
The stabbing was fatal. Confirmed.
It was not. 

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