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Post3:07 AM - Mar 16#7551

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... r_stltoday

Well, goodbye to a solid % of attendance at those games now. Not ideal headline to be at the top of our news

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Post3:18 AM - Mar 16#7552

This will have no affect on attendance

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Post3:20 AM - Mar 16#7553

keepstlbrick wrote:
3:07 AM - Mar 16
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... r_stltoday

Well, goodbye to a solid % of attendance at those games now. Not ideal headline to be at the top of our news
lol. What?

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Post3:35 AM - Mar 16#7554

keepstlbrick wrote:
3:07 AM - Mar 16
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... r_stltoday

Well, goodbye to a solid % of attendance at those games now. Not ideal headline to be at the top of our news
Will have no effect on event or sport attendance, HOWEVER STLMPD needs to crackdown hard on these so called street takeovers, these things are planned days in advance online social media. maybe there is some kind of of way to work with these social media companies need to halt this before things escalate. As for downtown stlmpd needs to have a constant seen Presence downtown day and night not just during events  make it clear do a crime downtown you WILL get caught and you will go to jail.

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Post5:38 AM - Mar 16#7555

i,Iive,to,draw wrote:
3:35 AM - Mar 16
keepstlbrick wrote:
3:07 AM - Mar 16
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... r_stltoday

Well, goodbye to a solid % of attendance at those games now. Not ideal headline to be at the top of our news
Will have no effect on event or sport attendance, HOWEVER STLMPD needs to crackdown hard on these so called street takeovers, these things are planned days in advance online social media. maybe there is some kind of of way to work with these social media companies need to halt this before things escalate. As for downtown stlmpd needs to have a constant seen Presence downtown day and night not just during events  make it clear do a crime downtown you WILL get caught and you will go to jail.
Comment was a little bit of pessimistic drama. But still not stoked that this is the first news headline that comes up right now when you search St. Louis on a week we will be welcoming a massive volleyball tournament and the NCAA tourney. Unfortunately there are many out of town visitors all around the country are averse to cities for these type of “takeovers”.

Downtown StL is just not in a place where we can afford these type of big stories that make it look widely unsafe

Let me add though that were very positive 314 celebrations at BPV and all across the city, so proud of the city in many ways still!

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Post11:07 PM - Mar 16#7556

i,Iive,to,draw wrote:
3:35 AM - Mar 16
keepstlbrick wrote:
3:07 AM - Mar 16
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... r_stltoday

Well, goodbye to a solid % of attendance at those games now. Not ideal headline to be at the top of our news
Will have no effect on event or sport attendance, HOWEVER STLMPD needs to crackdown hard on these so called street takeovers, these things are planned days in advance online social media. maybe there is some kind of of way to work with these social media companies need to halt this before things escalate. As for downtown stlmpd needs to have a constant seen Presence downtown day and night not just during events  make it clear do a crime downtown you WILL get caught and you will go to jail.
I know we love to bag on the SLMPD and their "money grab", but they don't have the officers for this. They had a whopping 5 officers patrolling the entire 4th district yesterday. It takes at least 8-12 patrol cars to break up these takeovers. 

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Post1:01 AM - Mar 17#7557

Kansas City patrols 300 sq miles with 1100 officers and SLMPD patrols 62 sq miles with 870 officers.

So if 5 were on a shift at 4th District and let’s say 5 at the other 5 for a total of 30 officers on a shift, what were the other 840 doing?

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Post5:21 PM - Mar 18#7558

keepstlbrick wrote:
5:38 AM - Mar 16
i,Iive,to,draw wrote:
3:35 AM - Mar 16
keepstlbrick wrote:
3:07 AM - Mar 16
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... r_stltoday

Well, goodbye to a solid % of attendance at those games now. Not ideal headline to be at the top of our news
Will have no effect on event or sport attendance, HOWEVER STLMPD needs to crackdown hard on these so called street takeovers, these things are planned days in advance online social media. maybe there is some kind of of way to work with these social media companies need to halt this before things escalate. As for downtown stlmpd needs to have a constant seen Presence downtown day and night not just during events  make it clear do a crime downtown you WILL get caught and you will go to jail.
Comment was a little bit of pessimistic drama. But still not stoked that this is the first news headline that comes up right now when you search St. Louis on a week we will be welcoming a massive volleyball tournament and the NCAA tourney. Unfortunately there are many out of town visitors all around the country are averse to cities for these type of “takeovers”.

Downtown StL is just not in a place where we can afford these type of big stories that make it look widely unsafe

Let me add though that were very positive 314 celebrations at BPV and all across the city, so proud of the city in many ways still!
By the way, unfortunately, I was listening to a sports radio show and some caller called in who claimed to be from the area and told these media guys who were going to StL to cover the tourney not to go because people were taking over the streets and and lots of people got shot last weekend. Said they would be better off to go to South Africa

The media guys shut it down as ridiculous thankfully saying they would be fine, but it wasn’t so crazy to think this would be brought up in the context of visiting StL

Was a real discouraging to call from someone claiming they lived in the area

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Post5:26 PM - Mar 18#7559

"Someone claiming they lived in the area" could be someone from within any 3 hour radius of St. Louis. I wouldn't worry about some random phone call on sports radio - how many prospective attendees are listening to that? I realize it's discouraging, but I try not to get bogged down in anecdotes like this.

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Post5:33 PM - Mar 18#7560

jtlq53 wrote:
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"Someone claiming they lived in the area" could be someone from within any 3 hour radius of St. Louis. I wouldn't worry about some random phone call on sports radio - how many prospective attendees are listening to that? I realize it's discouraging, but I try not to get bogged down in anecdotes like this.
It is a top 15 podcast in sports. Largest radio show in Kentucky

I don’t really think it matters that much that some random guy decided to harp on the city, but again, there are just so many people out there already looking to hate a city like StL or confirm their reasons not to go because it’s unsafe, so I just get super worried to what news and discourse that gets put out there about the city. I feel like social media is not kind to StL these days, and I worry it prevents people from visiting or considering moving here, and even if they do, they come with a certain perceptions already formed which inherently affects the experience

I just get down about it because I want people to know it’s a wonderful place and for it to grow

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Post6:09 PM - Mar 18#7561

keepstlbrick wrote:
jtlq53 wrote:
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"Someone claiming they lived in the area" could be someone from within any 3 hour radius of St. Louis. I wouldn't worry about some random phone call on sports radio - how many prospective attendees are listening to that? I realize it's discouraging, but I try not to get bogged down in anecdotes like this.
It is a top 15 podcast in sports. Largest radio show in Kentucky

I don’t really think it matters that much that some random guy decided to harp on the city, but again, there are just so many people out there already looking to hate a city like StL or confirm their reasons not to go because it’s unsafe, so I just get super worried to what news and discourse that gets put out there about the city. I feel like social media is not kind to StL these days, and I worry it prevents people from visiting or considering moving here, and even if they do, they come with a certain perceptions already formed which inherently affects the experience

I just get down about it because I want people to know it’s a wonderful place and for it to grow
I think you need to get off social media.

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Post6:18 PM - Mar 18#7562

keepstlbrick wrote:
5:33 PM - Mar 18
jtlq53 wrote:
5:26 PM - Mar 18
"Someone claiming they lived in the area" could be someone from within any 3 hour radius of St. Louis. I wouldn't worry about some random phone call on sports radio - how many prospective attendees are listening to that? I realize it's discouraging, but I try not to get bogged down in anecdotes like this.
It is a top 15 podcast in sports. Largest radio show in Kentucky

I don’t really think it matters that much that some random guy decided to harp on the city, but again, there are just so many people out there already looking to hate a city like StL or confirm their reasons not to go because it’s unsafe, so I just get super worried to what news and discourse that gets put out there about the city. I feel like social media is not kind to StL these days, and I worry it prevents people from visiting or considering moving here, and even if they do, they come with a certain  perceptions already formed which inherently affects the experience

I just get down about it because I want people to know it’s a wonderful place and for it to grow
I feel you and I share the sentiment. But it's beyond our control - I just try to share the exact message you're outlining at the end of your post with the people within my network and wherever it ripples out from there

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Post9:52 PM - Mar 19#7563

Internet is full of broadcasters and sports journalists enjoying downtown. Here is a Kentucky group. Kentucky traveling very well for STL.


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Post2:03 AM - Mar 20#7564

its already packed everywhere tonight. 

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Post2:13 PM - Mar 20#7565

dbInSouthCity wrote:
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its already packed everywhere tonight. 
Saw some players at my local coffee shop this morning. So fun! 

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Post2:29 PM - Mar 20#7566

Lots of Purdue fans in the VRBOs behind my house. Man, SLU put belt to a$$ on Georgia last night. 

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Post2:35 PM - Mar 20#7567

^I was talking to some friends last year about how hard it would be for the city/boosters to "help" SLU build a perennially successful local college sports team whether basketball, and really I was asking about football because of our football demand... but I learned it was much harder than I thought, lol... but it sure would be a lot of fun to have a big time successful SLU football and/or basketball team. Hope this continues! 

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Post2:55 PM - Mar 20#7568

I have heard and seen some positivity of people talking about how impressive City Hall is, calling it one of the most beautiful buildings they’ve seen (wish Muni Courts didn’t look the way it does right next to it).

Lots of impressions about the beauty of Union Station, the Old Courthouse now that it’s open, the Arch being a fun backdrop. Lots of architectural discussion as people seem impressed

Also, as much as we want BPV to be fully built out and reach its potential, it really is an asset for these types of events. Lots of people saying it’s a great place to hangout before and after games and doing their shows from there


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Post3:31 PM - Mar 20#7569

pattimagee wrote:^I was talking to some friends last year about how hard it would be for the city/boosters to "help" SLU build a perennially successful local college sports team whether basketball, and really I was asking about football because of our football demand... but I learned it was much harder than I thought, lol... but it sure would be a lot of fun to have a big time successful SLU football and/or basketball team. Hope this continues! 
SLU would have to cut a ton of other sports to pay for a football program. Just doesn't work fiscally.

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Post3:38 PM - Mar 20#7570

Yeah football is not even worth thinking about. Fortunately, the pieces are in place for basketball to be perennially successful right now. Whether that comes in the form of a Gonzaga-esque run in the A10 over the next however many years or by joining a conference like the Big East. We could be legitimized very soon.

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Post3:39 PM - Mar 20#7571

addxb2 wrote:Internet is full of broadcasters and sports journalists enjoying downtown. Here is a Kentucky group. Kentucky traveling very well for STL.

Just snipped through some of the video to see the StL commentary. Mostly positive. They do mention the middle of downtown being a “dead spot” and the youth curfew. They seemed to like the “random Irish pub” they found when they mention the dead spot (I’m guessing the dead spot being RWX area and Hayden’s being the pub)

Would’ve been nice to get RWX looking like it was at least under rehab and the garage gone by this summer but be that as it has been for 20 years I guess


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Post5:01 PM - Mar 20#7572

legendrey wrote:
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Yeah football is not even worth thinking about. Fortunately, the pieces are in place for basketball to be perennially successful right now. Whether that comes in the form of a Gonzaga-esque run in the A10 over the next however many years or by joining a conference like the Big East. We could be legitimized very soon.
I'm obviously not still suggesting football, but I do think there's a huge opportunity there and because the NFL is probably not coming back, that huge vacuum would be totally worth a 10-20 year plan imho... 

...but I agree basketball is a much easier lift and my thought was more along the lines of with NIL now in play, the city (or partners tied to it, GSL?) could help coordinate local businesses, tourism groups, and employers to create a more organized NIL and marketing mix pipeline. I'm thinking city ads, bundled opportunities—endorsements, internships, and post-grad job connections. Some dollar incentives to boost the recruiting package for SLU and make the city look good! 

And like legendrey mentioned, there’s a precedent for this too. Schools like Gonzaga (Spokane) and Creighton (Omaha) have basically become nationally relevant by leveraging their cities, not just their programs. Feels like STL could do something similar if it was more intentional about it... and way more fun to have this team rocking here in STL. :)

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Post5:40 PM - Mar 20#7573

Walking around downtown today was interesting and gave me mixed feelings. On one hand it's a beautiful day and there are tons of visitors walking around. Feels alive. 
 
Unfortunately it feels very exposing as well. Tons of gawking and pointing at our large abandoned buildings. People commenting on broken auto glass on the sidewalks, I guess the Peabody Building got shot up last weekend as well because like four more windows are busted out and the sidewalks below are covered with broken glass.

These events are still great because they drive money towards downtown and national attention towards STL, but I can't help think about how many of these visitors will leave with a diminished opinion of STL because of how Downtown is.

Unfortunately no easy solution here. We just got to be continuing the good work of pushing for regional cooperation and supporting downtown businesses. This is why a dollar spent downtown is worth two dollars spent elsewhere. A resident downtown is worth more to the region than two living in the city. Probably worth more than three residents in the suburbs.

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Post6:08 PM - Mar 20#7574

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:Walking around downtown today was interesting and gave me mixed feelings. On one hand it's a beautiful day and there are tons of visitors walking around. Feels alive. 
 
Unfortunately it feels very exposing as well. Tons of gawking and pointing at our large abandoned buildings. People commenting on broken auto glass on the sidewalks, I guess the Peabody Building got shot up last weekend as well because like four more windows are busted out and the sidewalks below are covered with broken glass.

These events are still great because they drive money towards downtown and national attention towards STL, but I can't help think about how many of these visitors will leave with a diminished opinion of STL because of how Downtown is.

Unfortunately no easy solution here. We just got to be continuing the good work of pushing for regional cooperation and supporting downtown businesses. This is why a dollar spent downtown is worth two dollars spent elsewhere. A resident downtown is worth more to the region than two living in the city. Probably worth more than three residents in the suburbs.
The lack of businesses is one thing, but the broken glass, litter, and overall “unkept” feeling of the majority of downtown is what really bugs me. It doesn’t even look like we’re trying to make it presentable or attractive.

It’s particularly embarrassing when you consider that most of the small college towns these fans are coming from have more lively downtowns than ours.

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Post6:09 PM - Mar 20#7575

Having a good Basketball team/making it to March Madness is still one of those Mid Major achievable in the world.   However, gets tough and hugely expensive to get to sweet sixteen contender.    Left St. Louis before SLU put together a  great program they have now but moved to be within a 10 minute drive and therefore become a fan of St. Mary Gaels in Moraga, CA.   St. Mary's Randy Bennet has put together like 18 straight seasons of plus 20 win season (was there for like the last 14 of those), 5 straight NCAA march madness appearances, challenge Zags year in and year out in conference play and simply put a great home game experience.    Pretty sure SLU home games are just as great.    Now its a question if i start going to SMU games down the road but not as close as SLU would have been or Gaels games were..  

But man, fun seeing the Gaels Round 1 wins over the last five years but also disappointing as well when Gaels lose like they did against the Aggies.  Hopefully some day they might sneak in a sweet sixteen (think it was 2008 when they pulled that off).  But I just don't know how mid majors can consistently field sweet sixteen field teams in this age and era of college sports.  Gaels just lose to many good players to portal and money for every player they can keep or even recruit.  I can't see SLU in much better shape.  Maybe they have some better backing than Gaels but SLU has to complete against Mizzou & Illini just as Geals have to compete against Stanford, Cal and now Santa Clara Broncos (another good mid major bball team).  Its all about Alumni coming w cash at the end of day because neither team will have power conference/media money behind them

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