You’ve walked 20,000 miles since 2020?soulardx wrote: ↑May 15, 2025Denis, I know you are the only downtown PR guy and DT badly needs it. But, I worked in that building and the lack of amenities compared to office buildings closer to like 10th and Washington is real. Despite the soccer stadium addition, that area just isn't all that nice, yet.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑May 15, 2025There is like 10 restaurants within .25 of a mile
And 20+ within half a mile to .75 of a mile
And, come on, anything more than a 20-min round-trip walk for a business-day lunch is unreasonable. (And, I likely walk the city more than you, Denis.)
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Yep. And, I carry groceries many times.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑May 15, 2025You’ve walked 20,000 miles since 2020?soulardx wrote: ↑May 15, 2025Denis, I know you are the only downtown PR guy and DT badly needs it. But, I worked in that building and the lack of amenities compared to office buildings closer to like 10th and Washington is real. Despite the soccer stadium addition, that area just isn't all that nice, yet.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑May 15, 2025There is like 10 restaurants within .25 of a mile
And 20+ within half a mile to .75 of a mile
And, come on, anything more than a 20-min round-trip walk for a business-day lunch is unreasonable. (And, I likely walk the city more than you, Denis.)
Not sure how seriously I can take your assertion about a lack of amenities when Union Station is basically directly across the street.
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I wish those firms leaving would be more patient as I think the food/coffee options will continue to expand in DTW.
I love the Bones of Union Station but if we are being honest its food options are more or less for tourists. Young professionals aren’t going to eat lunch at Landry’s or the Soda Fountain.
I love the Bones of Union Station but if we are being honest its food options are more or less for tourists. Young professionals aren’t going to eat lunch at Landry’s or the Soda Fountain.
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I'm not sure how relevant Union Station is to the everyday office worker. There isn't really any fast options outside of maybe the White Knight Diner. Closest sandwich shop is Planet Sub which is like nine blocks away. Downtown West just needs so much more.
I'm pretty sure Weber Shandwick just moved east but is still downtown.
I'm pretty sure Weber Shandwick just moved east but is still downtown.
Like 3 years ago, Weber moved from 555 Washington (an amazing building that was a great DT locale pre-Covid) to the Anthem building.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑May 15, 2025I'm not sure how relevant Union Station is to the everyday office worker. There isn't really any fast options outside of maybe the White Knight Diner. Closest sandwich shop is Planet Sub which is like nine blocks away. Downtown West just needs so much more.
I'm pretty sure Weber Shandwick just moved east but is still downtown.
Both Weber and Momentum are part of a large holding company (IPG) and typically leases for non-global HQ, satellite offices are somewhat dictated by the holding company.
As far as US, it's just not a great spot for business lunches. Families? Sure.
This could be true too. I only go to Union Station as a "tourist", never for anything like a business lunch.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑May 15, 2025I'm not sure how relevant Union Station is to the everyday office worker. There isn't really any fast options outside of maybe the White Knight Diner. Closest sandwich shop is Planet Sub which is like nine blocks away. Downtown West just needs so much more.
I'm pretty sure Weber Shandwick just moved east but is still downtown.
Idk. Right now I think I prefer then move to the core of downtown and allow DTW to see more residential development. Like Anthem moving from the DTW location to the Deloitte Building.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑May 15, 2025I wish those firms leaving would be more patient as I think the food/coffee options will continue to expand in DTW.
I love the Bones of Union Station but if we are being honest its food options are more or less for tourists. Young professionals aren’t going to eat lunch at Landry’s or the Soda Fountain.
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Sure. Core is definitely the priority for office.Auggie wrote:Idk. Right now I think I prefer then move to the core of downtown and allow DTW to see more residential development. Like Anthem moving from the DTW location to the Deloitte Building.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑May 15, 2025I wish those firms leaving would be more patient as I think the food/coffee options will continue to expand in DTW.
I love the Bones of Union Station but if we are being honest its food options are more or less for tourists. Young professionals aren’t going to eat lunch at Landry’s or the Soda Fountain.
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I miss the Union Station food court. TBH I wouldn't be mad if the planned Wash Ave food hall is full of "food court" level establishments. Give us a Panda, a Chipotle, Charley's, Sbarro, maybe a Five Guys?
I actually desperately want it to be things like this. This is precisely what Downtown needs.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑May 15, 2025I miss the Union Station food court. TBH I wouldn't be mad if the planned Wash Ave food hall is full of "food court" level establishments. Give us a Panda, a Chipotle, Charley's, Sbarro, maybe a Five Guys?
MRNHS wrote: ↑May 14, 2025. Actually, on that note, I think some of the tax incentives they received required them to develop more of the Landing (the initial renderings are somewhere in this forum), but of course they never did and no penalties/fines that were agreed upon were ever issued, at least to my knowledge.
If I recall Slay let them off the hook.framer wrote: ↑May 15, 2025MRNHS wrote: ↑May 14, 2025. Actually, on that note, I think some of the tax incentives they received required them to develop more of the Landing (the initial renderings are somewhere in this forum), but of course they never did and no penalties/fines that were agreed upon were ever issued, at least to my knowledge.
Commentary: St. Louis shows how cities can break the “urban doom loop”
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/st-l ... doom-loop/
This is a ~26 minute discussion with Kurt Weigle from GSL about commercial to residential conversations in downtown STL.
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https://www.brookings.edu/articles/st-l ... doom-loop/
This is a ~26 minute discussion with Kurt Weigle from GSL about commercial to residential conversations in downtown STL.
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Speaking of doom loop, the Business Journal is officially leaving downtown. Staying in the city, heading to Highlands with KSDK.rbb wrote: ↑May 23, 2025Commentary: St. Louis shows how cities can break the “urban doom loop”
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/st-l ... doom-loop/
This is a ~26 minute discussion with Kurt Weigle from GSL about commercial to residential conversations in downtown STL.
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St. Louis might be better off if the Business Journal would just shutter entirely.
Less than 4k sf though. Not the biggest loss ever. I wonder how much space they had at the Old Post Office years ago.
RockChalkSTL wrote:St. Louis might be better off if the Business Journal would just shutter entirely.
CHEERS TO THAT. Shut it down. Shut it down. Shut it down. Take Fox2 and Elliott Davis with it.
Sure, not a huge loss, but it's in the news (of course because they are the news). Several small losses still add up, this is all still heading in the wrong direction, sadly.
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How is it heading in the wrong direction? DT’s crime has been dropping for 5 years. It had positive absorption Q1 and is expected to have positive absorption Q2-Q4 this year. The convention center is winning huge conventions. The population continues to grow.
DT is a space that welcomes black people, so it will always be “heading in the wrong direction” for ~50% of the white people in the region.
DT is a space that welcomes black people, so it will always be “heading in the wrong direction” for ~50% of the white people in the region.
Jobs by City in the STL MSA as of 2022: According to the Census Bureau's "OnTheMap" tool
STL City- 222.8k (3.4k/sq mi)
DTSTL- 57.6k (27.6k/sq mi)
Clayton- 32.1k (12.8k/sq mi)
Chesterfield- 52.9k (1.6k/sq mi)
St. Charles- 37.5k (1.5k/sq mi)
O'Fallon, MO- 39k (1.3k/sq mi)
St. Peters- 35.2k (1.6k/sq mi)
Maryland Heights- 56.3k (2.4k/sq mi)
It is so fascinating the narrative around "no one goes downtown" when it has more jobs than any of the suburban job centers.
STL City- 222.8k (3.4k/sq mi)
DTSTL- 57.6k (27.6k/sq mi)
Clayton- 32.1k (12.8k/sq mi)
Chesterfield- 52.9k (1.6k/sq mi)
St. Charles- 37.5k (1.5k/sq mi)
O'Fallon, MO- 39k (1.3k/sq mi)
St. Peters- 35.2k (1.6k/sq mi)
Maryland Heights- 56.3k (2.4k/sq mi)
It is so fascinating the narrative around "no one goes downtown" when it has more jobs than any of the suburban job centers.
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Remember: Biz Journal and its 11 jobs leaving is bad news and Anders adding 250 jobs is not news
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Guess I'll jump on bike and go in office this morning. It's essentially going to be a "coffee swipe". I'll probably be home by lunch, probably swing by somewhere and have a pint and work the rest of afternoon from home. I need to keep my badge swipe numbers up. Everyone does it, if they go in at all. I'd say about 50% aren't required to show up at all. Certainly not staying around until 4 or 5 ewww.
I don't hate downtown and the bike ride is great. Possible rain later.
I don't hate downtown and the bike ride is great. Possible rain later.
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... 0#cxrecs_s
Non-profit API Innovation Center is moving from Cortex to 401 S 18th Street in Downtown West in the Powerhouse building just south of Union Station.
They have 23 employees and are leasing 6,525 square feet, more than tripling their previous space in Cortex.
Non-profit API Innovation Center is moving from Cortex to 401 S 18th Street in Downtown West in the Powerhouse building just south of Union Station.
They have 23 employees and are leasing 6,525 square feet, more than tripling their previous space in Cortex.