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Post6:53 PM - May 19#8051

Khakis wrote:
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Below is the direct text from the bill. I have a hard time believing stl city would be excluded here *but* its the state goverment who likes to inflict as much pain on the city as possible so who knows

(13) "Qualifying county", any county or portion thereof in this state that is not: 
40 (a) Within a city with more than four hundred thousand inhabitants and located in 
41 more than one county; or 
42 (b) A city not within a county;
Attorney talked with DED last week.  DED says STL City is excluded.  

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Post7:02 PM - May 19#8052

Khakis wrote:
6:49 PM - May 19
Below is the direct text from the bill. I have a hard time believing stl city would be excluded here *but* its the state goverment who likes to inflict as much pain on the city as possible so who knows

(13) "Qualifying county", any county or portion thereof in this state that is not: 
40 (a) Within a city with more than four hundred thousand inhabitants and located in 
41 more than one county; or 
42 (b) A city not within a county;
Yes, this language seems to specifically exclude Kansas City, which has over 400,000 residents and is located in multiple counties (Jackson, Clay, Platte, and Cass) and St. Louis, a city not within a county.

It would also seem to weirdly allow for tax credits in a non-Kansas City portion of any of those four counties, just not within city limits? Bizarre.

The bill is being called the "Missouri Historic, Rural Revitalization, and Regulatory Streamlining Act" but it seems weird to define "rural" as "NOT Kansas City or St. Louis city limits".

Another note: how did the Business Journal get this so wrong? Their initial headline was something like, "Another big win for downtown St. Louis," which must have pained them to type in the first place.

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Post7:09 PM - May 19#8053

The language basically says it's applicable to everyone except Kansas City and St. Louis lmao.

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Post7:19 PM - May 19#8054

So it would seem to me that MOLEG feels 3231 is sufficient with regards to revitalization of STL & KC. 

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Post7:32 PM - May 19#8055

Folks, I think you are misinterpreting the bill, STL city and KC are not eligible for the 35% rate, they are for the original 25%

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Post7:39 PM - May 19#8056

^ Thanks for the clarification! 👍

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Post7:48 PM - May 19#8057

dbInSouthCity wrote:
7:32 PM - May 19
Folks, I think you are misinterpreting the bill, STL city and KC are not eligible for the 35% rate, they are for the original 25%
Ahhh...thanks!

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Post8:46 PM - May 19#8058

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... 36526b537a

Ok, so this is a great TEMPORARY step to help put lipstick on some of the blight downtown. NOW, let's get some of that paint to cover tags & graffiti on the train bridges entering St. Louis, on road signs & highway walls, decayed buildings. It wouldn't hurt to take this plan and do this to abandoned buildings along I-70 from downtown to the north. MANY visitors pass through & use I-70 to traverse our region. It would be nice to make it look presentable. I hear comments all of the time from visitors commenting on the obvious blight along I-70 & at some points on 44 into Downtown. 

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Post9:28 PM - May 19#8059

(The highways are the actual blight)

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Post9:11 PM - May 20#8060

Not exact science but its close 
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Post9:31 PM - May 20#8061

From the owner of Bella’s Cafe, Buddy’s Grill & soon to open speakeasy, a new market at 1011 Washington Ave.

Bella’s is at 1021

Buddys is at 1001

Speakeasy will be at 1007

Goal of the market is Straubs like
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Post9:51 PM - May 20#8062

dbInSouthCity wrote:From the owner of Bella’s Cafe, Buddy’s Grill & soon to open speakeasy, a new market at 1011 Washington Ave.

Bella’s is at 1021

Buddys is at 1001

Speakeasy will be at 1007

Goal of the market is Straubs like
How large is the market space?

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Post9:57 PM - May 20#8063

dbInSouthCity wrote:
9:11 PM - May 20
Not exact science but its close 
I'm glad to see the progress, the last month is about the same as the previous 4 months

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Post9:57 PM - May 20#8064

Rick Prieto wrote:
9:57 PM - May 20
dbInSouthCity wrote:
9:11 PM - May 20
Not exact science but its close 
I'm glad to see the progress, the last month is about the same as the previous 4 months
That’s not unusual. People tend to wait for nice weather before moving.

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Post2:17 AM - May 21#8065

dbInSouthCity wrote:
9:57 PM - May 20
Rick Prieto wrote:
9:57 PM - May 20
dbInSouthCity wrote:
9:11 PM - May 20
Not exact science but its close 
I'm glad to see the progress, the last month is about the same as the previous 4 months
That’s not unusual. People tend to wait for nice weather before moving.
The overall inventory of apartments and the percentage of available apartments typically increases during summer months because the weather is nice and people are moving around.  

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Post7:14 PM - May 21#8066

https://www.reddit.com/r/StLouis/s/CX7TzdxaBL

Doesn't help when actual trolls are going around making stuff up. 99% chance this story didn't happen, a quick look at his Reddit comment history will reveal everything you need to know about him.

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Post7:30 PM - May 21#8067

The Dorsa Market looks fantastic. Also love that building!!!

As for these "Homeless" people screaming downtown are "scary"...  has anyone actually driven along Lindbergh in South County - from Lemay to Ronnie's Plaza?  Every corner there are at least 3 to 4 homeless people - in wheelchairs and on foot constantly asking for money.  Seriously, homelessness is mental illness in most cases (or the cause of) and this is *not* unique to downtown. Suburbanites are "fine" with it in their neighborhood, but the minute they see it downtown they relate it to "crime" and "scary".  Our local media perpetuates this rhetoric and keeps people from coming downtown and it needs to be stopped.  I have never lived in a city that the media creates this type of scare tactics. 

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Post7:42 PM - May 21#8068

There are 2 people everyday at Lindbergh and Clayton Rd asking for money.

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Post7:45 PM - May 21#8069

I would never admit to a single soul that I was accosted by a guy in a wheelchair from two first downs away.

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Post9:41 PM - May 25#8070

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... louis.html

Dorsa Market and At The Moment speakeasy will open in July.

The market will include produce, wine and spirits, snacks, locally-sourced goods, a small hardware section, and a small pet section. There will also he an on-site kitchen that will serve hand-tossed pizzas.

The speakeasy will be open to the public on Friday and Saturday evenings, with members-only events on Thursdays. There will be private events as well.

In total, there will be 4-5 employees with store hours from 10 AM to 9 PM, with extended hours on Fridays and Saturdays. The market is about 2,100 square feet and the speakeasy is about 1,000 square feet.

The build out cost about $60,000, with financing coming from downtown retail grants from Greater STL and tenant improvement dollars from Oliver Properties.

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Post8:31 PM - May 26#8071

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... louis.html

Bank of America Plaza to be auctioned on June 22, starting bid would be $2 million.

The building was last sold for $6.3 million last year.

It is roughly 60% vacant, with 210,000 square feet of contiguous vacant Class A space from the 19th to 29th floor.

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Post9:04 PM - May 26#8072

StlAlex wrote:
8:31 PM - May 26
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... louis.html

Bank of America Plaza to be auctioned on June 22, starting bid would be $2 million.

The building was last sold for $6.3 million last year.

It is roughly 60% vacant, with 210,000 square feet of contiguous vacant Class A space from the 19th to 29th floor.

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Post9:12 PM - May 26#8073

SRQ2STL wrote:
9:04 PM - May 26
StlAlex wrote:
8:31 PM - May 26
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... louis.html

Bank of America Plaza to be auctioned on June 22, starting bid would be $2 million.

The building was last sold for $6.3 million last year.

It is roughly 60% vacant, with 210,000 square feet of contiguous vacant Class A space from the 19th to 29th floor.

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Post1:09 AM - May 27#8074

Awful

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Post1:37 AM - May 27#8075

Those vacant floors might be a good contender for conversion into residential under the new incentive program. With the angle the building sits at, you can have some interesting views.

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