Yep, I see it now. Her timeline is straight-up ivermectin-laced bananas. No way that lady is realFraydog wrote: ↑Feb 25, 2025It’s in the replies to Les Sterman’s rant about Cordish building on the Riverfront. You think people like him would be happy about private development but now more than ever I’m convinced people like him would rather see DTSTL die.soulardx wrote:Because I walk the blocks around Euclid/Maryland daily, multiple times a day, I recall this tweet and was very confused. Over my 3 years here, I've had some minorly unpleasant encounters with homeless but very very very few. And, nothing like that. So, I strongly suspect she made it up. Like many suburbanites, she also calls anything east of Skinker "downtown."Fraydog wrote: ↑Feb 25, 2025Also, it’s always MAGA accounts that post this sort of thing and never submit photographic evidence of anything of the sort happening. Does STL have issues downtown? Yes, but let’s face it, unless there’s real evidence of this happening, then no one can create actual change.
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Do you have a link to that tweet? I can no longer find it on her timeline. I swear I read it weeks before the Feb 23 timestamp....she delete it???
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STL could use hundred's more like her! All the best.
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Pretty good and long article from Nathan R at BizJournal
A lot of people are on the same page that downtown needs new modern options and there is demand for those in downtown
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... emand.html
A lot of people are on the same page that downtown needs new modern options and there is demand for those in downtown
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... emand.html
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StlMag - Office conversion tax credit plan finds broad backing in Jefferson City
https://www.stlmag.com/news/office-conv ... d-backing/
https://www.stlmag.com/news/office-conv ... d-backing/
Re: the Victor, quite a striking contrast to how it's depicted this story from KSDK about the same story in the Business Journal:dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Feb 25, 2025Pretty good and long article from Nathan R at BizJournal
A lot of people are on the same page that downtown needs new modern options and there is demand for those in downtown
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... emand.html
-RBBST. LOUIS — The Victor was a victory for downtown St. Louis.
The $130 million project from Development Services Group filled one of downtown’s largest vacancies. The conversion of the eight-story, 718,660-square-foot Butler Brothers building, which spans a full city block at 1717 Olive St. in Downtown West, created 384 apartments.
But nearly two years after The Victor’s opening, apartment leasing is a “little bit behind” initial projections, said Gary Prosterman, DSG’s president and CEO. The building has about 40% left to fill, with 232 of its 384 apartments currently occupied.
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Demand for multi family residential in Clayton is weak but we don’t get articles about it. Why?
Because it’s of paramount importance that the massive inflows of capital into the city that started in the second half of the Obama administration are weakened, if not reversed.
Suburbanization is just regional colonization. And the most powerful/wealthy people/entities in our community are invested almost exclusively in the suburbs. The only the way the burbs thrive is by sucking wealth from the city (and some other muni’s in the regional core) while simultaneously heaping costs and externalities on those same communities.
The problem now is that the colony (StL City) is getting wealthier while the primary colonizer (St. Louis county) is staying the same if not getting poorer. They are going to fight like hell to stop this trend.
Their first battleground is the minds of residents and it’s being waged in through the media. And right now, the only media that appears to be fighting for the City in any way, is StL Mag, and Denis.
Because it’s of paramount importance that the massive inflows of capital into the city that started in the second half of the Obama administration are weakened, if not reversed.
Suburbanization is just regional colonization. And the most powerful/wealthy people/entities in our community are invested almost exclusively in the suburbs. The only the way the burbs thrive is by sucking wealth from the city (and some other muni’s in the regional core) while simultaneously heaping costs and externalities on those same communities.
The problem now is that the colony (StL City) is getting wealthier while the primary colonizer (St. Louis county) is staying the same if not getting poorer. They are going to fight like hell to stop this trend.
Their first battleground is the minds of residents and it’s being waged in through the media. And right now, the only media that appears to be fighting for the City in any way, is StL Mag, and Denis.
Only in St. Louis is a plan to invest 3/4 of a billion dollars in the community greeted by the media establishment with “Why would you want to do that!?”rbb wrote: ↑Feb 26, 2025Re: the Victor, quite a striking contrast to how it's depicted this story from KSDK about the same story in the Business Journal:dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Feb 25, 2025Pretty good and long article from Nathan R at BizJournal
A lot of people are on the same page that downtown needs new modern options and there is demand for those in downtown
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... emand.html
-RBBST. LOUIS — The Victor was a victory for downtown St. Louis.
The $130 million project from Development Services Group filled one of downtown’s largest vacancies. The conversion of the eight-story, 718,660-square-foot Butler Brothers building, which spans a full city block at 1717 Olive St. in Downtown West, created 384 apartments.
But nearly two years after The Victor’s opening, apartment leasing is a “little bit behind” initial projections, said Gary Prosterman, DSG’s president and CEO. The building has about 40% left to fill, with 232 of its 384 apartments currently occupied.
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All of the curb ramps on Washington Ave are being replaced from River to at least Tucker. Should done in a few weeks
Love to see all of the physical infrastructure improvements moving forward.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025All of the curb ramps on Washington Ave are being replaced from River to at least Tucker. Should done in a few weeks
Why does the city allow these abandoned vehicles to sit in perpetuity in its "Central Downtown Garage" at 7th and Pine?
I just don't get it. Some of these have expired tags from 2017. Some were tagged for tow...3 years ago.
This is an embarrassment.
I just don't get it. Some of these have expired tags from 2017. Some were tagged for tow...3 years ago.
This is an embarrassment.
Maybe you're just an embarrassed person? The real question is what harm exactly do these cars do? They're sitting in a parking garage, out of the way. They affect nobody. They're off the street and costing the city $0.
The city's impound has dealt with issues over the years being too full and not having the manpower to manage it.
The problem with your "issue" is that it's absolutely not an issue, certainly not one the city should be weighing over other actual real life issues. Abandoned cars in a random garage is not a real life issue for anyone in this city outside of you.
The city's impound has dealt with issues over the years being too full and not having the manpower to manage it.
The problem with your "issue" is that it's absolutely not an issue, certainly not one the city should be weighing over other actual real life issues. Abandoned cars in a random garage is not a real life issue for anyone in this city outside of you.
Auggie, if you can't see how this negativity impacts the city, then I don't know what else to tell you. I'm not going to spell it out for you.
Some of us have standards and self respect. Others apparently don't.
Some of us have standards and self respect. Others apparently don't.
It is an embarrassment, a bad look, and speaks to the larger issues of this current administration. A complete inability to provide basic services. Towing abandoned vehicles shouldn't be a problem and definitely doesn't take away resources from critical "real life" issues. That is laughable.Auggie wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025Maybe you're just an embarrassed person? The real question is what harm exactly do these cars do? They're sitting in a parking garage, out of the way. They affect nobody. They're off the street and costing the city $0.
The city's impound has dealt with issues over the years being too full and not having the manpower to manage it.
The problem with your "issue" is that it's absolutely not an issue, certainly not one the city should be weighing over other actual real life issues. Abandoned cars in a random garage is not a real life issue for anyone in this city outside of you.
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How about a little nuance? It’s embarrassing. It should be cleaned up. It’s also very, very far down the list of things our city should be prioritizing to improve its look/image. Resources are limited. That’s the challenge.
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While you guys are debating about cars in a garage, I’m sitting at a packed bar on Wash Ave, which has been been packed all week
A private towing company would have the cars removed at no cost in less than a couple of hours.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025How about a little nuance? It’s embarrassing. It should be cleaned up. It’s also very, very far down the list of things our city should be prioritizing to improve its look/image. Resources are limited. That’s the challenge.
Says the guy posting on an internet forum from a bar. HahadbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025While you guys are debating about cars in a garage, I’m sitting at a packed bar on Wash Ave, which has been been packed all week
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I’m supporting the current admin for a lot of the good work being done so not going to go into who to blame.
But I will agree things like abandoned cars, trash pick up, landscaping, cleaning graffiti matters - perception is reality. St. Louis and downtown battle perception constantly from within and to outsiders. “Little things” certainly matter. And a lot of little things become obvious big things.
I dont think this admin is particularly bad or that Spencer would be better. I have seen enough from Spencer that has turned me away. Jones has done enough to make me believe
I’d like to see our city take pride in these things though, for sure
When I played college baseball, “little things” like how organized lockers looked impressed recruits and parents. In your job interview, you tuck your shirt in and tie your tie correctly. When you go to a restaurant, you take notice of the friendliness of the host.
Curb appeal people, curb appeal. It matters
But I will agree things like abandoned cars, trash pick up, landscaping, cleaning graffiti matters - perception is reality. St. Louis and downtown battle perception constantly from within and to outsiders. “Little things” certainly matter. And a lot of little things become obvious big things.
I dont think this admin is particularly bad or that Spencer would be better. I have seen enough from Spencer that has turned me away. Jones has done enough to make me believe
I’d like to see our city take pride in these things though, for sure
When I played college baseball, “little things” like how organized lockers looked impressed recruits and parents. In your job interview, you tuck your shirt in and tie your tie correctly. When you go to a restaurant, you take notice of the friendliness of the host.
Curb appeal people, curb appeal. It matters
Please explain, Tim, how 20 abandoned cars in a parking garage most people have never even been in "negatively impacts the city" in any meaningful way.
The fact you're the only person b*tching about this "issue" shows that it's not a real issue.
While you're whining about city hall not "looking nice" and abandoned cars in some garage, someone is still homeless. Someone was robbed. Someone lost their job.
Genuinely one of the most Reddit thing I've ever seen.
Then go find one and get back to me.STLAPTS wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025A private towing company would have the cars removed at no cost in less than a couple of hours.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025How about a little nuance? It’s embarrassing. It should be cleaned up. It’s also very, very far down the list of things our city should be prioritizing to improve its look/image. Resources are limited. That’s the challenge.
Auggie, defending that these cars are "no big deal" is a very interesting argument.
I don't think that the city should allow free junk storage in its downtown business district in a parking garage that it paid millions of dollars to build.
I will continue to try to make this city a better place. Sometimes that means calling out the city's complacency when they fail to operate with basic common sense.
As someone who works downtown, I am proud to share my love of the neighborhood to family and friends in a continued effort to challenge the general perception that the, "city is lawless".
But, I'm not willing to accept that this is fine. No city, neighborhood, or individual private property owner having any self respect would allow this on their property.
This is the city's own garage. It makes them look bad. That has an economic impact. Further, they lose direct revenue on these spots. It's a waste of the city's investment.
What number of abandoned vehicles would make this a problem? 50? 100? 500? Where do you draw the line?
I don't think that the city should allow free junk storage in its downtown business district in a parking garage that it paid millions of dollars to build.
I will continue to try to make this city a better place. Sometimes that means calling out the city's complacency when they fail to operate with basic common sense.
As someone who works downtown, I am proud to share my love of the neighborhood to family and friends in a continued effort to challenge the general perception that the, "city is lawless".
But, I'm not willing to accept that this is fine. No city, neighborhood, or individual private property owner having any self respect would allow this on their property.
This is the city's own garage. It makes them look bad. That has an economic impact. Further, they lose direct revenue on these spots. It's a waste of the city's investment.
What number of abandoned vehicles would make this a problem? 50? 100? 500? Where do you draw the line?
Arguing that we can't do more than one thing at a time doesn't inspire much faith in the capabilities of current City leadership.
The garage likely already has a tow contract in place. If not, setup a contract with Hartman Towing. They are great.Auggie wrote: ↑Mar 01, 2025Then go find one and get back to me.STLAPTS wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025A private towing company would have the cars removed at no cost in less than a couple of hours.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Feb 28, 2025How about a little nuance? It’s embarrassing. It should be cleaned up. It’s also very, very far down the list of things our city should be prioritizing to improve its look/image. Resources are limited. That’s the challenge.
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DB, I like you, but what's your point, other than trying to sound "cool"? Or downplay the issue like Auggie? I'm sincerely glad that the bar is busy (I LOVE seeing the extra foot traffic downtown), but what does that have to do with the city's nonchalant attitude on this particular issue?