^ True. But they lower it as part of incentives for new jobs.... GE got an 85% reduction if I'm not mistaken. Saint Louis City typically does this as well.
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Forbes has a look at 5 "up and coming downtowns." It's a decent piece but Saint Louis did not make it. Over-the-Rhine/Cincy, Louisville, Kansas City, Allentown and Des Moines did.
http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/b ... oming.html
“One of the big stories of the past few years has been the striking resurgence of cities,” Fortune assistant managing editor Leigh Gallagher said in a video. “It’s almost hard to remember the days in the ‘70s and ‘80s when crime in the cities was rampant and people were fleeing to suburbs.”
If some of our planned projects actually get moving I suspect we'll be getting some pretty good press 2015-2016.
http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/b ... oming.html
“One of the big stories of the past few years has been the striking resurgence of cities,” Fortune assistant managing editor Leigh Gallagher said in a video. “It’s almost hard to remember the days in the ‘70s and ‘80s when crime in the cities was rampant and people were fleeing to suburbs.”
If some of our planned projects actually get moving I suspect we'll be getting some pretty good press 2015-2016.
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Pandora moving headquarters and 250 employees to Baltimore from Columbia
Pandora soon will add its logo to the city's skyline as the company relocates its regional headquarters for the Americas and about 250 employees to Baltimore from Columbia by early 2015.
The Danish jeweler known for its charm bracelets announced Thursday that it will lease five floors of the building at 250 W. Pratt St. with rights to place its bright-white logo on two sides of the skyscraper, easily visible from the stands at Oriole Park at Camden Yards.
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-0 ... adquarters
Pandora soon will add its logo to the city's skyline as the company relocates its regional headquarters for the Americas and about 250 employees to Baltimore from Columbia by early 2015.
The Danish jeweler known for its charm bracelets announced Thursday that it will lease five floors of the building at 250 W. Pratt St. with rights to place its bright-white logo on two sides of the skyscraper, easily visible from the stands at Oriole Park at Camden Yards.
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-0 ... adquarters
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^ I take it you missed my little rant over at the downtown office occupancy thread!
http://urbanstl.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 60#p234177
http://urbanstl.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 60#p234177
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I guess I did. Sorry for the dup.roger wyoming II wrote:^ I take it you missed my little rant over at the downtown office occupancy thread!
http://urbanstl.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 60#p234177
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^ No problem... here is another get for someone else's downtown:
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/prin ... 5E14991071
Deloitte LLP has picked Atlanta as the site of a technology development center — a first of its kind for the global professional services firm.
New York-based Deloitte will invest “tens of millions” of dollars and create up to 400 high-tech jobs over the next few years at the 26,000 square foot downtown Atlanta “iLab,” where it will develop software and analytics products for its Fortune 250 clients.
Costs and ready-made talent were attractive for Deloitte.... I wonder if downtown or Cortex was considered:
Atlanta competed with six markets, including Silicon Valley/Bay Area, Texas, the Northeast and the Midwest.
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/prin ... 5E14991071
Deloitte LLP has picked Atlanta as the site of a technology development center — a first of its kind for the global professional services firm.
New York-based Deloitte will invest “tens of millions” of dollars and create up to 400 high-tech jobs over the next few years at the 26,000 square foot downtown Atlanta “iLab,” where it will develop software and analytics products for its Fortune 250 clients.
Costs and ready-made talent were attractive for Deloitte.... I wonder if downtown or Cortex was considered:
Atlanta competed with six markets, including Silicon Valley/Bay Area, Texas, the Northeast and the Midwest.
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^ every such article should be tweeted at Slay–a barrage of our competitive failures.
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Agreed. Our leadership, starting with the occupant of Room 200, is painfully out of touch in my opinion.urban_dilettante wrote:^ every such article should be tweeted at Slay–a barrage of our competitive failures.
Also, it isn't just Rm. 200.
It's also Jefferson City.
Remember how Jeff City literally shot down Aerotropolis?
In the meantime, cities like Denver, and Dallas are quietly building momentum for their Aerotropolis efforts.
It's also Jefferson City.
Remember how Jeff City literally shot down Aerotropolis?
In the meantime, cities like Denver, and Dallas are quietly building momentum for their Aerotropolis efforts.
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Oh yeah, Jefferson City is to blame as well. Don't get me started on Missouruh's gubmint.arch city wrote:Also, it isn't just Rm. 200.
It's also Jefferson City.
Remember how Jeff City literally shot down Aerotropolis?
In the meantime, cities like Denver, Dallas and Milwaukee are quietly building momentum for the Aerotropolis efforts.
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I really love Saint.Louis but i don't feel an ambiance of a resurgence here.. Miss job opportunities crime downtown becoming more of everyday occurrence no jobs being relocated to downtown, streets look a absolute mess, still too many empty store fronts we're mentioned in more bad than good in articles.. Forbes seems to point out everything negative about Saint.Louis when cities such as Memphis Cleveland Detroit Pittsburgh get applauded. I'm really tired of hearing about a shooting every damn day particularly downtown its really ruining our downtown & what we gained.. Wish i could whip out a can of bad people be gone...
I want Saint.Louis to excel & exceed but that won't happen without good state leadership but most of all good city & regional leadership to succeed. The time is now & Saint.Louis leadership needs to wake up before its too late..
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Jeez. Crime has not increased nor are there shootings everyday downtown. That's a perception fostered by the local media. Downtown is one of the safest areas in the city and a lot of investment is occurring in the area.TheNewSaintLouis wrote:I really love Saint.Louis but i don't feel an ambiance of a resurgence here.. Miss job opportunities crime downtown becoming more of everyday occurrence no jobs being relocated to downtown, streets look a absolute mess, still too many empty store fronts we're mentioned in more bad than good in articles.. Forbes seems to point out everything negative about Saint.Louis when cities such as Memphis Cleveland Detroit Pittsburgh get applauded. I'm really tired of hearing about a shooting every damn day particularly downtown its really ruining our downtown & what we gained.. Wish i could whip out a can of bad people be gone...
Cleveland and Pittsburgh certainly seem to have some momentum going (along with St. Louis). But go check out Memphis and Detroit and then see if you prefer the direction they're going in to that of St. Louis. If crime, job decentralization, empty storefronts, and street repair are concerns of yours, you might find St. Louis compares rather well.
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The city needs to fight people's perceptions of crime downtown. I am downtown about 3 times a week for the past 3 years and I never saw or had any thing bad happen to me. Sadly a lot of people In the suburbs think downtown is thug central and wash ave is still all boarded up.
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From what I can tell, a lot of people still think its 1982 or earlier of the city and the way of the world. (or even 1952 for that matter)Redbrickcity wrote:The city needs to fight people's perceptions of crime downtown. I am downtown about 3 times a week for the past 3 years and I never saw or had any thing bad happen to me. Sadly a lot of people In the suburbs think downtown is thug central and wash ave is still all boarded up.
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Downtown could use some more interesting events.... how about "Tennis amidst the Towers"
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The temporary tennis court is built on Canadian Pacific Plaza, on the corner of Fifth Street and Second Avenue in downtown Minneapolis.
More than 10 percent of the 75 players work in downtown Minneapolis, said U.S. Tennis Association Northern Spokesperson Lisa Mushett.
Some games will attract between 500 and 700 spectators sitting in the temporary bleachers or lined up on the sidewalks and skyways, Mushett said....
“It’s really cool, looking up and seeing a super-tall skyscraper from the tennis court,”

The temporary tennis court is built on Canadian Pacific Plaza, on the corner of Fifth Street and Second Avenue in downtown Minneapolis.
More than 10 percent of the 75 players work in downtown Minneapolis, said U.S. Tennis Association Northern Spokesperson Lisa Mushett.
Some games will attract between 500 and 700 spectators sitting in the temporary bleachers or lined up on the sidewalks and skyways, Mushett said....
“It’s really cool, looking up and seeing a super-tall skyscraper from the tennis court,”
Don't know much about Memphis, but greater downtown Detroit is seeing some major energy. The huge amount of work needed to be done in the vast tracts of neighborhoods is a tremendous challenge, though.... smaller can be better in terms of our municipal size,wabash wrote:Cleveland and Pittsburgh certainly seem to have some momentum going (along with St. Louis). But go check out Memphis and Detroit and then see if you prefer the direction they're going in to that of St. Louis. If crime, job decentralization, empty storefronts, and street repair are concerns of yours, you might find St. Louis compares rather well.
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Good news found a nice write up about downtown things may have been better then we thought 2013 was a good year for office space not counting AT&T
http://www.downtownstl.org/docs/2014_An ... _FINAL.pdf
http://www.downtownstl.org/docs/2014_An ... _FINAL.pdf
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^ they really need to do a new and thorough report. Pittsburgh's downtown org by the way reports "salaried" workers... I have a feeling our figure is not only severely outdated but also includes p/t restaurant and retail workers, etc. We also need to know the white collar jobs figure.... I don't think it will be pretty.
I'm glad to see them using a more accurate and transparent system for breaking out downtown population statistics: Downtown Core (comprised of DT & DTW) at 7,967, and Greater Downtown (comprised of the census tracts that include parts of the Downtown Core) at 17,359.
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^ I'm a bit confused by the Downtown Core numbers.... the city's numbers show the 2010 census at 7,661 total for the Downtown and Downtown West neighborhoods, just slightly lower than what the Partnership lists for 2014 even though they say the core has averaged 350 new residents every year.... so I would think they'd list over 8,500. (My hope for 2020 is that we'd reach at least 15,000 for the core - or double what we had in 2010.)
Any theories? Removing estimated homeless/transient population from the numbers?
Any theories? Removing estimated homeless/transient population from the numbers?






