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PostJan 30, 2024#51

I just scrolled and was shocked it wasn't for parking.  Looks pretty good but I will miss those homes.

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PostFeb 27, 2024#52

Homebuilder eyes buying long-vacant school site on The Hill
A homebuilder is eyeing a long-vacant state-owned site in the city of St. Louis for development.
McBride Homes has entered into a contract with the state to buy the former Hubert Wheeler State School at 5707 Wilson Ave. in The Hill neighborhood, the homebuilder confirmed.

The state has been marketing the closed and vacant school site for sale since 2017. It’s too early in the process for McBride, based in Chesterfield, to have a plan for what could be built at the site, said a spokeswoman. The developer has not yet conducted due diligence on the property, she said.
A closing date for the deal could be targeted for the end of 2024, according to the spokeswoman.
Financial terms of the pending deal were not disclosed. The property’s appraised value was $67,400 as of 2023, according to records from the city assessor.
The 35,113-square-foot former school, built in 1969, is located on a 4-acre site, according to the state website. It has a storage building that was added in 1987. McBride, the largest homebuilder in the state, has been actively building new housing on The Hill. The developer last year announced plans to construct 26 new townhouses in the neighborhood, expanding on its earlier $27 million development of 58 new houses called La Collina. Separately, a 225-unit apartment complex, Moda on the Hill, was also recently built in the neighborhood by developer Draper & Kramer.
Part of the Hubert Wheeler School site is adjacent to existing housing.
Officials with the Missouri Office of Administration did not immediately have more information on the contract.
The Missouri Legislature authorized the state to sell the property, which is named after a longtime state education commissioner, along with others in 2017. It once housed a state school for students with disabilities, and later Harris-Stowe State University occupied the site with the Anheuser-Busch School of Business.
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2024/02/26/homebuilder-buying-vacant-school-the-hill-mcbride.html

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PostFeb 27, 2024#53

airforceguy1 wrote:
Feb 27, 2024
Homebuilder eyes buying long-vacant school site on The Hill
A homebuilder is eyeing a long-vacant state-owned site in the city of St. Louis for development.
McBride Homes has entered into a contract with the state to buy the former Hubert Wheeler State School at 5707 Wilson Ave. in The Hill neighborhood, the homebuilder confirmed.

The state has been marketing the closed and vacant school site for sale since 2017. It’s too early in the process for McBride, based in Chesterfield, to have a plan for what could be built at the site, said a spokeswoman. The developer has not yet conducted due diligence on the property, she said.
A closing date for the deal could be targeted for the end of 2024, according to the spokeswoman.
Financial terms of the pending deal were not disclosed. The property’s appraised value was $67,400 as of 2023, according to records from the city assessor.
The 35,113-square-foot former school, built in 1969, is located on a 4-acre site, according to the state website. It has a storage building that was added in 1987. McBride, the largest homebuilder in the state, has been actively building new housing on The Hill. The developer last year announced plans to construct 26 new townhouses in the neighborhood, expanding on its earlier $27 million development of 58 new houses called La Collina. Separately, a 225-unit apartment complex, Moda on the Hill, was also recently built in the neighborhood by developer Draper & Kramer.
Part of the Hubert Wheeler School site is adjacent to existing housing.
Officials with the Missouri Office of Administration did not immediately have more information on the contract.
The Missouri Legislature authorized the state to sell the property, which is named after a longtime state education commissioner, along with others in 2017. It once housed a state school for students with disabilities, and later Harris-Stowe State University occupied the site with the Anheuser-Busch School of Business.
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2024/02/26/homebuilder-buying-vacant-school-the-hill-mcbride.html
That is the ugly 1970's "village of huts" school on Wilson 

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PostFeb 27, 2024#54

Ittner was rolling in his grave over that one.

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PostFeb 28, 2024#55

Did they try to out-pizza the Hut with that design? Yikes.

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PostFeb 28, 2024#56

The former Wheeler State School campus in Midtown (behind Harris-Stowe on Market) also is very odd looking. It would be nice to redevelop that one, too.

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PostFeb 28, 2024#57

Bissingers is also planning to expand their facility on The Hill.

PostNov 21, 2024#58

McBride is planning 58 townhomes at "the corner of Wilson and January Avenues—the former site of what was called the Hubert Wheeler State School" (a hazardous waste site).

https://fox2now.com/news/fox-files/new- ... -the-hill/

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PostNov 21, 2024#59

^That's awesome - let's hope the cleanup project goes well. 🙏

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PostDec 02, 2024#60

$400k building permit application submitted for a new home at 2315 Sublette

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PostDec 02, 2024#61

Anyone know why 5019 DAGGETT AV ST LOUIS MO 63110 hasn’t been sold or developed? Seems like prime real estate.

https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/data/address ... 84ebd3.jpg[/IMG]


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PostDec 02, 2024#62

dbehrens011 wrote:
Dec 02, 2024
Anyone know why 5019 DAGGETT AV ST LOUIS MO 63110 hasn’t been sold or developed? Seems like prime real estate.

https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/data/address ... 84ebd3.jpg[/img]


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The owner wants way more money that it is worth. 6M give or take.  McBride was trying to purchase.  

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PostDec 02, 2024#63

The Assessor appraises it at $260.7k. Maybe land speculators should pay taxes on what they think their land is worth.

PostJan 25, 2025#64

quincunx wrote:
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$400k building permit application submitted for a new home at 2315 Sublette
Issued

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PostFeb 15, 2025#65

Demo permit for 2004 Hereford? 19th century shotgun home. McBride it appears is doing demo.

Look I’m okay with McBride building infill and larger scaled projects on vacant lots and industrial sites like they have done so far in the Hill. Do I love their designs? Not particular, but in the hill they are mostly urban and relatively dense so it’s a positive. McBride already owns pretty much all of these vacant sites - build on them, cool. But we have to get historic preservation review in the Hill if they are going to start tearing down 19th century homes that made the Hill. These small shotgun homes are the character of the Hill. I hope this demo is stopped and we make the Hill a historic review district.

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PostMar 01, 2025#66

$400k building permit application submitted for a new home at 2004 Hereford. Demo permit application was submitted two weeks ago.

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PostMar 01, 2025#67

So tired of constantly spotting the Bellon ghouls in the Hill.

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PostJun 01, 2025#68

framer wrote:
Nov 21, 2024
McBride is planning 58 townhomes at "the corner of Wilson and January Avenues—the former site of what was called the Hubert Wheeler State School" (a hazardous waste site).

https://fox2now.com/news/fox-files/new- ... -the-hill/
Demo permit applied for.

PostJun 02, 2025#69

Heard 5106 Shaw at Hereford is under contract. Hopefully something more productive will come of it.

PostJun 07, 2025#70

$350k building permit application submitted for a new home at 2008 HEREFORD ST

PostJun 08, 2025#71

^Actually it's a $3.5M permit. Donno if that's a typo or if it's for a mansion with multiple lots being consolidated..

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PostAug 04, 2025#72

McBride Homes plans 80 townhouses on historic St. Louis site

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... 994af54a4f

Say what you will about McBride but STL needs hundreds of projects on this scale. Not everyone wants to own a single family home from the 1800s or 1960s. New construction, high density, mass production infill has a big role to play in saving the City.

Back to my Rams Settlement idea…City should take two city blocks (at a time) and say to developers like McBride… “Build here. Whatever doesn’t sell after two years after completion, we’ll buy back from you at cost + interest.” I know homes would sell. There are interested buyers but there are a lack of safe and affordable homes. Developers are too nervous and banks won’t make the loans. City should back the loans!

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PostAug 04, 2025#73

addxb2 wrote:
Aug 04, 2025
McBride Homes plans 80 townhouses on historic St. Louis site

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... 994af54a4f

Say what you will about McBride but STL needs hundreds of projects on this scale. Not everyone wants to own a single family home from the 1800s or 1960s. New construction, high density, mass production infill has a big role to play in saving the City.

Back to my Rams Settlement idea…City should take two city blocks (at a time) and say to developers like McBride… “Build here. Whatever doesn’t sell after two years after completion, we’ll buy back from you at cost + interest.” I know homes would sell. There are interested buyers but there are a lack of safe and affordable homes. Developers are too nervous and banks won’t make the loans. City should back the loans!
Pretty sure this was announced a while back, or maybe they had just bought the land and it was assumed that this is what they'd do.

On the other side of The Hill, there's a couple blocks of McBride townhouses that were built over the last few years. Can't wait to see how much The Hill's population will grow come 2030.

I'd like to see a large scale development with houses like this, apartments, and mixed use built where St. Louis Marketplace currently is. Build a whole new neighborhood. It's such a dead spot in the city right now.

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PostAug 05, 2025#74

People on Reddit were complaining about it nonstop, but honestly, with this kind of development in the city, it's just a matter of not letting perfect be the enemy of good

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PostAug 05, 2025#75

I think McBride deserves to be dragged, their homes do look like cheap crap. Wouldn't say this project should be rejected but maybe one day McBride will get the message idk

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