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QUICK! Get the developer's phone number and request he or she builds this in Central West End or Downtown West on one of the vacant lots!


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I can't read the BJ article; does it say why these proposals were rejected?

^It doesn't say. It only says that two projects were submitted and considered, but not accepted.

Well that's a shame. I really liked this proposal with regard to its street level interaction as well as its general massing for the location.

I second/triple/whatever the above sentiments, this is perfect for the CWE. Strikes me as being in the same general vane as 100.

Super dead now. Not even taking any proposals

City Withdraws RFP for Hanley & Wydown Lot
Publish Date:02/08/2017 2:15 PM
In 2015, the City of Clayton issued a Request for Proposals (RFP) for the development of 602 S. Hanley, the city-owned lot, which is located at the corner of Hanley & Wydown. The RFP sought development proposals that would replace and increase parking in the area and bring a development that would complement this important and visible neighborhood in our community.

The city received multiple proposals, and while there were some very promising and interesting concepts, the city did not feel the overall fit, economics or timing was appropriate to move forward and has halted consideration. The parking lot will continue to operate as an asset to support the businesses of the area and no development is anticipated for the near future.

http://www.claytonmo.gov/Home/Component ... cklist=%2f

Like a punch in the nose.

Alex Ihnen wrote: ↑

Feb 08, 2017

Just silliness.

Maybe, I also think the proposal as noted on your blog & in this thread expands upon the footprint of the parking lot to make it work because it is dealing with the reality of developing the parking lot only from the standpoint of incorporating enough units and parking for tenants to be economical to the existing market while at same time is adding more commercial space to the immediate corner & taking parking away from businesses across the street. Its a tough parcel for what is going to be demanded for from this area.

Which gets back to the reality of this particular piece of property/surface lot is outside of the central business district, is indeed next door to multi unit but also across the street from single residential neighborhood and the lot itself is a benefit to existing business at the same intersection. So I don't see so much silliness as the neighborhood is going to have a much more vocal say and city/council members are going to listen much more carefully.

I just can't wrap my head around a proposal that can satisfy at least the majority of the crowd. The best example I can think of recent developments that is somewhat comparable in neighborhood concerns is getting the old lumberyard in dogtown developed which is on its second or third attempt because the immediate neighborhood issues will be heard

In the Moorlands we have a new proposal for this corner street parking lot.

Edited to add.... The proposed structure would be a four-story, 15-unit condominium building with ground floor retail and 100 parking spaces. 41 of the 100 parking spaces would be available to the public. Currently there are 27 parking spaces.

Looks nice. When do you think we will see it go before the Architectural Review Board.

Nice. Looks like a modernized version of a classic Moorlands apartment building. Let's hope they can get this one done. 

chriss752 wrote:Looks nice. When do you think we will see it go before the Architectural Review Board.

Boa meeting is this Tuesday.

If this doesn’t pass then nothing will ever go there. Not too tall and there shouldn’t be parking concerns. I guess the “more traffic” will always come up but this is pretty tame compared to some other proposals.

NIMBYs will come out of the woodwork again.

moorlander wrote: ↑

Oct 18, 2019

Edited to add.... The proposed structure would be a four-story, 15-unit condominium building with ground floor retail and 100 parking spaces. 41 of the 100 parking spaces would be available to the public. Currently there are 27 parking spaces.  

Sounds like they've responded to all the previous concerns: Loss of the parking lot, too many new apartments being built in Clayton, etc. etc. 
Should pass on the first vote. 

59 parking spaces for 15 condos? Jesus.

Definitely like the proposal though. Far prefer the original but this is a solid B.

^Perhaps some of those spots would also be designated for the retail spaces and not “public”.

Great proposal. Looks good.


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stlgasm wrote:I like this proposal even better than the original because the development is confined to the parking lot and does not involve demolishing existing buildings. The previous proposal would’ve demolished two.

It involves demolishing one building.

It’s actually two buildings will come down. The previous proposal additionally included the large U shaped building on Forest ct.



The biggest concern is parking during construction. Where will patients of neighboring dental office park and where will customers of Zoe’s 3 restaurants, Peno, Akar, etc park during the ~1-2year construction? These are very real concerns but I’m confident there is a solution out there.
The city is selling the lot for just $225,000 so there are concerns there too.

I always find a spot when I go to Protzel's, and I never use the lot.

wabash wrote: ↑

Oct 19, 2019

^Perhaps some of those spots would also be designated for the retail spaces and not “public”.

Could be. Have a hard time seeing why almost 4 spaces per unit would be needed so that would make sense. Even by suburban standards that would be a heck of a parking inventory.