For 6th (I think) year in a row Sen Maria Chappelle-Nadal files bill for City reentry into St Louis County amendment. SJR 21 http://www.senate.mo.gov/16info/BTS_Web ... D=22246522
WaPo - George Will - A Missouri town demands substantive due process
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.htmlIf Pagedale, Mo., is a glimpse of the future, the future is going to be annoying. Pagedale might represent the future of governance unless some of its residents succeed in their lawsuit against their government. If they do, it will be because they successfully invoked the principle of substantive due process.
I wonder if this has any hope of passing the legislature (which would move it to state voters) this year given all of the turmoil. Of course, nothing came of it last year, so who knows.quincunx wrote:For 6th (I think) year in a row Sen Maria Chappelle-Nadal files bill for City reentry into St Louis County amendment. SJR 21 http://www.senate.mo.gov/16info/BTS_Web ... D=22246522
Maybe if we acted like we hated it because we wanted our independence we could get the legislature to pass it just to spite us.
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It has no chance of passing....someone asked me to research and do a write up on what impact this bill would have on the road system..county/city roads ect...i said rather not waste the time.jstriebel wrote:I wonder if this has any hope of passing the legislature (which would move it to state voters) this year given all of the turmoil. Of course, nothing came of it last year, so who knows.quincunx wrote:For 6th (I think) year in a row Sen Maria Chappelle-Nadal files bill for City reentry into St Louis County amendment. SJR 21 http://www.senate.mo.gov/16info/BTS_Web ... D=22246522
Maybe if we acted like we hated it because we wanted our independence we could get the legislature to pass it just to spite us.
this bill has been around since 2011 at least.
^ I wonder if the push to eliminate the earnings taxes in KC and STL would have to come along with some type of regional consolidation. That seems like the only solution, nobody likes to here it but at some point the wealthier areas are going to have "bail out" the urban core if the region ever expects to be truly sustainable. The current system is not working and I actually could see a future where we have a unigov system like Indianapolis, Louisville, and Nashville. The current structure is super fragmented and it just doesn't play out well in a 21st century economy where governments have to swift on their feet.
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We are living in a totally different world that 2011. I assume you are all right, but there is reason to believe there would be interested in forcing St. Louis to change in some ways.dbInSouthCity wrote:It has no chance of passing....someone asked me to research and do a write up on what impact this bill would have on the road system..county/city roads ect...i said rather not waste the time.jstriebel wrote:I wonder if this has any hope of passing the legislature (which would move it to state voters) this year given all of the turmoil. Of course, nothing came of it last year, so who knows.quincunx wrote:For 6th (I think) year in a row Sen Maria Chappelle-Nadal files bill for City reentry into St Louis County amendment. SJR 21 http://www.senate.mo.gov/16info/BTS_Web ... D=22246522
Maybe if we acted like we hated it because we wanted our independence we could get the legislature to pass it just to spite us.
this bill has been around since 2011 at least.
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Same bill was brought up in 2011,2012,2013,2014, 2015 sessions. The world we lived during the 2015 session is the same as today
BT released their report on general administration. They says we spend $281M/yr on it.
http://www.bettertogetherstl.com/generaladministration
http://www.bettertogetherstl.com/generaladministration
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So now that the studies are done, where does BT go from here? Proposal in the General Assembly and changes from the state level? Local petition and charter change route?
Sounds like they're going to expand beyond municipal gov't and look at education in response to the Ferguson Commission's report.
http://www.bettertogetherstl.com/better ... -to-actionIn this spirit, Better Together looks forward to undertaking the role of an accountable body for the study of the region's educational landscape as called for in the Commission's report.
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^That sounds like a way to torpedo the entire effort of municipal or county consolidation. Schools are the third rail of regional politics, and if people get hostile just about the city reentering the county as another municipality, wait until they hear about BT working on schools.
Traffic tickets for sidewalks? The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
The reason they can't afford sidewalks is because the place is built around the auto which isn't productive enough to pay for basic infrastructure and services iver the long haul. Throwing away money on fragmentation doesn't help either.
Stl Public Radio - Fight over Missouri municipal court law didn't start overnight
The reason they can't afford sidewalks is because the place is built around the auto which isn't productive enough to pay for basic infrastructure and services iver the long haul. Throwing away money on fragmentation doesn't help either.
Stl Public Radio - Fight over Missouri municipal court law didn't start overnight
http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/fig ... -overnightViola Murphy can’t afford a new sidewalk for her town. For now, she’ll have to settle for a grassy path created with the imprints of pedestrians.
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"I mean, what are we supposed to do? Use some of those unproductive "free parking" spaces on streets and lots to make our places more pedestrian friendly. And then what? Residents magically have money they would have spent on car fuel, maintenance, insurance and ticky-tack citations to spend on goods and services in their local community? That's the craziest scheme I've ever heard." - Viola Murphy
The empire strikes back.
Stl Today - New group formed to tout collaboration, not consolidation, of St. Louis County municipalities
Stl Today - New group formed to tout collaboration, not consolidation, of St. Louis County municipalities
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt ... 21d24.htmlIn response to the criticism directed at St. Louis County’s municipal structure, a group of former and current municipal officials are launching CitiesStrong, a nonprofit group that aims to support “a balance of regional collaboration with local decision-making.”
Seems like I could get on board with some of its efforts; if only I could stand Bert Gates.
CitiesStrong says Better Together left out $589M in spending in Indy when comparing. CitiesStrong study: http://citiesstrong.com/studies/docs/20 ... itique.pdf
Stl Today - Better Together, CitiesStrong trade volleys in skirmish over city-county merger
Stl Today - Better Together, CitiesStrong trade volleys in skirmish over city-county merger
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/stat ... ecc3c.htmlCitiesStrong maintains the annual municipal government costs of Indianapolis-area residents in fact exceeds that of St. Louisans by $44.99 when outlays for sports and convention venues, and public health are included.
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Not sure how I feel about CitiesStrong.... probably a good thing to have someone who can challenge Better Together and make sure we're getting a more balanced view of the challenges and opportunities of our local governance structure.
At the end of the day, unigov isn't going to happen for decades, so the outcome I'd like to see is a city re-entry back into the county and an efficient system where local citizens unhappy with their little fiefdoms can merge or disincorporate. That, along with continuing to reform the abusive municipal funding and law enforcement practices , can go a long way. Tackling TIF is also critical. How to tackle education is a bit of a different animal.
At the end of the day, unigov isn't going to happen for decades, so the outcome I'd like to see is a city re-entry back into the county and an efficient system where local citizens unhappy with their little fiefdoms can merge or disincorporate. That, along with continuing to reform the abusive municipal funding and law enforcement practices , can go a long way. Tackling TIF is also critical. How to tackle education is a bit of a different animal.
Sales tax chase not working out for Sunset Hills? Their credit rating is now lower than the city's, fwiw. And didn't QuickBooks come out like 25 years ago?
Call - S&P downgrades rating for city of Sunset Hills
Call - S&P downgrades rating for city of Sunset Hills
http://www.callnewspapers.com/Articles- ... Hills.htmlIn his report, Montoya suggested that in many ways, Sunset Hills had never modernized its financial operations from the time the city was founded: Bank reconciliations were still done by hand, the city's financial software was woefully outdated and the payroll clerk hand-wrote payroll in a ledger.
Richmond Heights districts 2 and 4 have no candidates filed to run this April. Here's your chance to run on a consolidation platform!
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^self proclaimed "anti progress" resident in Richmond Heights is stepping up to the plate.
"I am excited for the opportunity to help bring Richmond Heights back to the core values that make it a desirable place for families to come buy homes and raise their children,” Bolden said. “Lately the city has emphasized progress over tradition and I think it’s time things went the other way, more tradition and less progress.”
Bolden has been outspoken in his opposition to the proposed 207-family, multi-use development. Plan and zoning approved a zoning amendment to allow it 7-2; city council has had one reading of the ordinance.
http://40southnews.com/third-candidate- ... istrict-2/
"I am excited for the opportunity to help bring Richmond Heights back to the core values that make it a desirable place for families to come buy homes and raise their children,” Bolden said. “Lately the city has emphasized progress over tradition and I think it’s time things went the other way, more tradition and less progress.”
Bolden has been outspoken in his opposition to the proposed 207-family, multi-use development. Plan and zoning approved a zoning amendment to allow it 7-2; city council has had one reading of the ordinance.
http://40southnews.com/third-candidate- ... istrict-2/
What do you think?
Stltoday - The nine boroughs of a greater St. Louis
http://m.stltoday.com/news/opinion/the- ... 252c6.html
Stltoday - The nine boroughs of a greater St. Louis
http://m.stltoday.com/news/opinion/the- ... 252c6.html
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It makes WAAAAY too much sense, therefor it has no chance of happening...
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It gets the conversation started. I have an issue with splitting the city in two, especially along what is essentially a racial line. If anything, the core should be bigger. I would say 7 total, with the city being one, and absorbing some of the nearby county.
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^Fully support the idea. I also agree it makes too much sense and therefore has zero chance of happening.
Link to the 1962 Borough Plan (22 boroughs):
http://www.stltoday.com/news/multimedia ... da2e1.html
Link to the 1962 Borough Plan (22 boroughs):
http://www.stltoday.com/news/multimedia ... da2e1.html