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The first residents move into Steelcote Lofts next week. They are currently 10% leased.

Also, demolition permits were issued for the Mill Creek Flats site on July 9th. Demolition should commence by months end or early August. Some junk is still being removed from the existing building. 

Moderators, I think it is a good time to change the thread title to "Steelcote Square District". More developments will be announced that go beyond just the current 3. 

I really wonder what it'd be like to live in that outbuilding apartment.  Very interesting they decided to market that as an apartment and not a leasing office or something.

This whole view will change greatly over the next few years. The parcel that Michael just bought and found by one of the users on here is to my right in this photo. There is something planned there, but I don’t know what.


Here is the bike lane. Pointless for now until some other things pop up, but at least it’s nice to have. Wish there was more sidewalk over here, but once again, that would be pointless.



Steelcote Crossing.

If we build spaces for people then people will use them. Sidewalks are never useless. Especially here, where developers are envisioning a big picture district/ neighborhood. (Idk why we can't just call it Midtown). You'd be surprised how many people use sidewalks when a pleasant walking experience is presented. We just measure the car/road experience. 

This is huge in Jane Jacobs book. Death and Life of Great American Cities. 

dylank wrote:The density might not be there for a true walkable neighborhood, but we still have new roads and parking spaces for the residents. So why not new walking spaces too? 

I thought about the future of the area in my post. Hopefully they can add sidewalks in then, or at a later date. My walk around there today had no problems, but it wasn’t busy or open yet (as well all know). I can see this area being enjoyable to walk around in the future. I know sidewalks are coming with Mill Creek Flats and Steelcote Crossing. Those will be welcome

chriss752 wrote: This whole view will change greatly over the next few years. The parcel that Michael just bought and found by one of the users on here is to my right in this photo. There is something planned there, but I don’t know what.

And that little user was me!

What is most interesting in this neighborhood is all of that property owned by Corrigan to the left in your photo.  It is a huge property, on both sides of the Grand viaduct, and it comes with it's own private underpass.  I would love to put together a plan for a mixed-use project there. 

I know they still have operations there, but the few times I have been by, their parking lot doesn't look very active.

urbanitas wrote: What is most interesting in this neighborhood is all of that property owned by Corrigan to the left in your photo.  It is a huge property, on both sides of the Grand viaduct, and it comes with it's own private underpass.  I would love to put together a plan for a mixed-use project there. 

I know they still have operations there, but the few times I have been by, their parking lot doesn't look very active.

I noticed the same thing, there aren't many cars parked at Corrigan during the day. Maybe if the price is right, Corrigan would be willing to condense their operations in this area. For now, they're fine. The Steelcote area will change enough to where they'll eventually leave or do something to become part of the new area. We will see what happens though. 

chriss752 wrote: Lobby rendering.

LOL.  The virtual rooster-coifed dude in the red chair sure does get around.  That's the same guy that is in Sansone's Boulevard office building renderings.  Must be an inside joke among interior designers...

Brewery/distillery could really help that area get some traffic and acknowledgement as it builds up.

I know I'm not running the project either (or much of an entrepreneur), but I've always thought a brewing or distilling startup space would be awesome for smaller operations to start getting some product barreled.

That lobby ceiling with the chimney is giving me "MagicChef Lite" vibes.

chriss752 wrote: The first residents move into Steelcote Lofts next week. They are currently 10% leased.

Also, demolition permits were issued for the Mill Creek Flats site on July 9th. Demolition should commence by months end or early August. Some junk is still being removed from the existing building. 

Moderators, I think it is a good time to change the thread title to "Steelcote Square District". More developments will be announced that go beyond just the current 3. 

Chris, too pull down an older post and carry on discussion from another thread into a Steelcote question.   

Have the developers hinted at a hotel in the mix as well?  MacKay Quarters to the east has suggested a hotel in its long term mix and some strong reasons give on why Iron Hill to the immediate west has a hotel up front in its mix.  Could see a extended stay type hotel being proposed similar to what was built in FPSE not too long ago that caters to Barnes-Jewish/Wash U Medical.   You can see a mix of hotel types/development popping up and around catering to the new SLU hospital & medical/SLU Medical & research in the immediate area.

dredger wrote: Chris, too pull down an older post and carry on discussion from another thread into a Steelcote question.   

Have the developers hinted at a hotel in the mix as well?  MacKay Quarters to the east and some strong reasons give on why Iron Hill to the immediate west has a hotel up front in its mix.  Could see a extended stay type hotel being proposed similar to what was built in FPSE not too long ago that caters to Barnes-Jewish/Wash U Medical.   You can that type of hotel development popping up and around the new SLU hospital & medical/SLU Medical & research in the immediate area

Michael hasn't hinted at a hotel here. I think this development will be pretty well covered by the hotel at Iron Hill, but you never know. I could see one going in here to bring in a different mix of people to enjoy the new neighborhood that is popping up. I guess we will have to see what happens. There will be more development down in this area and we should be hearing more soon. Not entirely sure what the next phases will be but most likely more residential and retail. Maybe even some commercial space. Maybe residential will be nixed in favor of office. Only Michael and the architecture firm knows.

I think the area offers a great opportunity to bring in or keep/retain light industrial/craftsman/warehouse in the mix.   In other words, in time a great area with walkable amenities & a future greenway nearby to literally have a place near your work for the guy or gal who might have made a career out of a skill set whether it be welding, electrician, machinist, craftsman and so on.   You already got the medical/education job creator nearby with a plan to essential repopulate an older neighbor with starter homes.   So why not think out of the box on in terms of where to build jobs that lead to more tenants as your development expands.

Another way to put it, a machine or fabrication shop in this particular area might do just as well here as well as any proposed commercial office that is competing with a ton of other commercial office proposals at the moment.  Just don't have a clue if my thoughts make financial sense for the developers or how you even develop those spaces.      

Got to take a tour of the Lofts again (since they are completed), last Wednesday. They have been running into issues with leasing. Many people come and look and are impressed but don't like the lack of amenities. They only true amenity they offer right now is covered parking (extra fee). So a small fitness center will be added into one of the smaller outbuildings. That should hold over until Mill Creek Flats opens late next year. At this point. 2 of the 33 units are occupied. 

Some photos...









The Steelcote Advertisements in the hallways are from a safe in the neighboring building. They took them out and restored them. 


This river buoy is a random addition.


View of the short sidewalk to the small Gratiot alley. When Mill Creek Flats is built, this sidewalk will swing around and will connect to Theresa.


The Steelcote Crossing building will soon have concrete poured on the 3rd floor.


Here are some photos from today. The former site of the gray building has been leveled out (will become a parking lot and staging area). Demolition on the Owen building should start this week. Michael says that the demolition company will stay junk up to demolish the white silo portion, that should be fun to watch. Overall, the Mill Creek Flats project will change this area. 


Gratiot will come out around here. It will go alongside the outbuilding with smokestacks...




It will be interesting to see how busy this area becomes over the next few years. The one smaller warehouse building near Steelcote Lofts is for sale but Michael and others have said that the floor is really wavy and that makes redevelopment difficult. People I have talked to think it will become a Medical Marijuana facility, but we will see. Elsewhere in the area, there are redevelopment opportunities. SLU owns sizable chunks of land here so those could be developed on. For now, Phase 4 will most likely be the parcel on Gratiot at Grand. 

It's a shame all of the interior brick is covered by white paint. And if those shots are from a model apartment, they should throw some rugs down. It looks very austere.

Black02AltimaSE wrote: It's a shame all of the interior brick is covered by white paint. And if those shots are from a model apartment, they should throw some rugs down. It looks very austere.

Clearly you missed the welcome mats (or dog pads?) on the 5th photo...

From their site, there are 33 units available and they are asking between $1.70 and $2 per s.f. for these, including the penthouse units.  It might help a bit with leasing if they had some actual photos on their website...

I actually work alongside the team who did the web work.  I can pitch it and see if they'd be interested.  I do agree just floor plans and renderings do not show what the space feels like, though, maybe that's how they get people over there to check them out to begin with.

bwcrow1s wrote: I actually work alongside the team who did the web work.  I can pitch it and see if they'd be interested.  I do agree just floor plans and renderings do not show what the space feels like, though, maybe that's how they get people over there to check them out to begin with.

Considering that the huge windows and high ceilings are the primary (only?) selling point of this building, you'd think they'd want to show them off to potential tenants.  This interior photo on their website is not even from this building, it's probably just a stock photo:



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