St. Louis Rams

DogtownBnR · PostOct 12, 2009#2762009-10-12T14:25+00:00

I would not have a problem with his group owning the team. They are from St. Louis and would likely keep the team here. That is all that matters.

"David L. Steward is chairman and founder of World Wide Technology, Inc., one of the largest African-American-owned businesses in America[citation needed]. He also is the author of Doing Business by the Good Book. Steward also serves both on the Executive Committee and the Campaign Chair for the United Way of Greater St. Louis, Missouri. Steward was born to a poor family in Clinton, Missouri. He founded World Wide Technology in 1990 with four other people in a 4,000-square-foot (400 m2) office space. Steward's company now exceeds $2 billion in revenue. Mr. Steward is married with 2 adult children. He is also a Silver Beaver recipient from the Greater St. Louis Area Council of the Boy Scouts."

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PostOct 14, 2009#2772009-10-14T14:09+00:00

I was thinking about something regarding the whole Rush thing. Since Rush is considered racist, a bigot etc...etc.. by so many, how the h*ll did he ever get on ESPN. I can't imagine he changed his format or views after he was let go from ESPN. That means everyone at ESPN felt he was fine to be on ESPN. Why was there no outrage then? Is he percieved as a bigger racist or bigot since Obama was elected? How did he get on in the first place, if so many dislike him?? I do not listen to Rush, so I don't really know. I can't even give my opinion. I have heard him hear and there, but I don't know enough about him to give a valid opinion.

Honestly, I don't care what he says in his show, as long as his money keeps the Rams here.

meteo · PostOct 14, 2009#2782009-10-14T15:05+00:00

It was an experiment to increase ratings, and it worked. Ultimately though he only lasted a month on the air.

urbanpioneer · PostOct 14, 2009#2792009-10-14T17:05+00:00

DOGTOWNB&R wrote:Honestly, I don't care what he says in his show, as long as his money keeps the Rams here.

I agree, but I have started to get an uneasy feeling about his involvement with the ownership group. Considering the player's union, at least one other owner and numerous active and retired players are actively fighting Rush's involvement in potential team ownership, it's looking like there's a good chance the entire deal could fall through simply because Rush is involved.

How sad would it be to see Checkett's otherwise strong proposal passed over because of the reaction to Rush? It's a possibility that's growing stronger by the day. I wish Checkett could find someone else with deep pockets to replace Rush.

OT: why does Rush even want to own an NFL team? In the context of American business, they don't come more socialist than the NFL. TV revenue being divided equally among the 32 teams seems like something Rush would usually be ranting about. Not sure why he would voluntarily put himself and his money into the socialist NFL system...

dweebe · PostOct 14, 2009#2802009-10-14T17:40+00:00

UrbanPioneer wrote:
DOGTOWNB&R wrote:Honestly, I don't care what he says in his show, as long as his money keeps the Rams here.

I agree, but I have started to get an uneasy feeling about his involvement with the ownership group. Considering the player's union, at least one other owner and numerous active and retired players are actively fighting Rush's involvement in potential team ownership, it's looking like there's a good chance the entire deal could fall through simply because Rush is involved.

How sad would it be to see Checkett's otherwise strong proposal passed over because of the reaction to Rush? It's a possibility that's growing stronger by the day. I wish Checkett could find someone else with deep pockets to replace Rush.

OT: why does Rush even want to own an NFL team? In the context of American business, they don't come more socialist than the NFL. TV revenue being divided equally among the 32 teams seems like something Rush would usually be ranting about. Not sure why he would voluntarily put himself and his money into the socialist NFL system... :wink:

And how about if the team starts demanding public money to build a new stadium?

urbanpioneer · PostOct 14, 2009#2812009-10-14T20:34+00:00

UPDATE (from ESPN):

Rush Limbaugh is expected to be dropped from a group bidding to buy the St. Louis Rams, according to three NFL sources.

Dave Checketts, chairman of the NHL's St. Louis Blues and the point man in the Limbaugh group attempting to buy the Rams, realizes he must remove the controversial conservative radio host from his potential role as a minority member in the group in order to get approval from other NFL owners, the sources said.

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Without Limbaugh, Checketts and his group would have to find a financial substitute to replace the investment that Limbaugh intended to make. At the NFL owners meetings this week in Boston, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell addressed Limbaugh's potential involvement in the league and said "divisive comments are not what the NFL is all about."

Goodell added: "I've said many times before, we're all held to a high standard here. I would not want to see those comments coming from people who are in a responsible position in the NFL -- absolutely not."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4559454

framer · PostOct 15, 2009#2822009-10-15T04:50+00:00

It's official. Here's the latest from the Post:

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports ... enDocument

irocktheparty2000 · PostOct 15, 2009#2832009-10-15T05:58+00:00

Anyone catch the exchange on AC360 (Anderson Cooper) on CNN tonight? McGraw Milhaven from KTRS was on with Al Sharpton and Steven A. Smith. See if you can find the video somewhere but all I will say is that McGraw looked like an idiot. He referred to the situation of Rush being dropped as being nothing more than a "high-tech lynching" and used that phrase on numerous occasions (nice choice of words before two prominent African Americans), and accused people of making up quotes supposedly said by Limbaugh (as if anyone needs to make anything up as much as Limbaugh runs his mouth). Then went on to say that the NFL does have its share of thugs and threw Leonard Little's name in there as one such thug by calling him a murderer. McGraw really did not represent himself well at all, or maybe he did, but was obviously out of his league on this panel.

southsidepride · PostOct 15, 2009#2842009-10-15T13:32+00:00

No surprise here but the STL Today comment section is overwhelmingly pro-Rush. The same cast of characters that always adds such "insight" to stories on the city.

It's funny, they spend three hours a day listening to him and the rest of their day commenting on STLToday. So my question is---do they ever work? And they have the nerve to call us city dwellin' libruls lazy

DogtownBnR · PostOct 15, 2009#2852009-10-15T15:37+00:00

I sure hope the loss of Rush Limbaugh from Checketts group does not hurt their bid too significantly. I hope everyone who made sure he was not in the ownership group didn't hurt the Rams chances of staying here. Those people will deserve a ton of scrutiny if that happens. Liberal or conservative, I think we all want this team here. If they move, I will be so P'd off at the idiots that hurt Checketts bid over politics. Money is money, even Keith Olberman agrees Rush should be allowed to own the Rams if he chooses. I don't care how you vote, this is about what is best for our city. I think his money is as good as anybodys, as long as it keeps them here. Let's just say, I am very worried about the future of the franchise here in St. Louis.

southsidepride · PostOct 15, 2009#2862009-10-15T15:46+00:00

^I see what you are saying, but actions have consequences. And if Limbaugh didn't say some of the things he has said in the past no one would think his ownership of the team would be a distraction.

It's not about him being a conservative. If someone like the late William F. Buckley wanted to own the Rams it wouldn't be controversial. Buckley was just as conservative, but he didn't feel the need to also be a shock jock.

DogtownBnR · PostOct 15, 2009#2872009-10-15T15:59+00:00

^I dont really care what he says or does because he is a silent partner. All we want is his money, to make sure the team stays here. That is what that group gave us, assurance that the team would remain here. Now the group has to struggle to replace his money with someone elses. That will not be easy in this economy, with a team that has lost a ton of games in a row. I understand the reasons people are trashing him, liberals hate him. Why would they not take shots at him...Would it be a distraction, at first maybe. Once the team is owned for a while and Checketts is the face of the franchise, the issue would die. Limbaugh is not dumb enough the mix politics and business. That is about as dumb as the CEO of Whole Foods always saying things to alienate his customer base. I don't think Rush is that dumb. Guess it is moot now anyway! Let's hope someone steps in and saves the Rams in St. Louis. BTW, where is the Busch family, Andy Taylor etc....?? They would only have to put in $100 million, which is the reported amount Rush would put in.

urbanpioneer · PostOct 15, 2009#2882009-10-15T16:10+00:00

DOGTOWNB&R wrote:I sure hope the loss of Rush Limbaugh from Checketts group does not hurt their bid too significantly.

I don't think you have anything to worry about.

The dropping of Rush greatly improves the chance of Checkett's group getting the bid. The NFL has said they want the team here; The Commish essentially said he didn't want Rush involved with ownership. Rush was doing nothing but hurting the group's bid or else he wouldn't have been dropped so fast. Nobody would have any reason to protest the ownership group if Rush wasn't involved. It wouldn't be on the news, and other NFL owners would not be publically opposing the group's bid.

Just or not, controversy follows Rush everywhere; it's obviously his m.o. It's how he made enough money to be able to buy a team in the first place. Clearly the controversy was hurting Checkett's group and consequently the Rams chances of staying in St. Louis.

If Checketts finds another investor (and surely he will), he has himself perfectly situated to get approval from the NFL and the other owners and we can look forward to complaining about how bad the Rams are for a long, long time.

PostOct 15, 2009#2892009-10-15T16:17+00:00

Limbaugh is not dumb enough the mix politics and business.

Haha... right. Clearly you must have missed this Today Show interview conducted mere days ago where he says business and ideology are inseparable.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/1 ... 17257.html

DogtownBnR · PostOct 15, 2009#2902009-10-15T16:24+00:00

^I was referring to politics and the business of owning the Rams...Checketts would not allow that. Neither would the other partners.

urbanpioneer · PostOct 15, 2009#2912009-10-15T16:35+00:00

^Regardless, it's a moot point now.

southsidepride · PostOct 15, 2009#2922009-10-15T17:32+00:00

The funniest response on the STLToday forum is that Limbaugh's bid was rejected because he's a white conservative.

Yeah, white conservatives really have been shut out of NFL ownership

innov8ion · PostOct 16, 2009#2932009-10-16T00:47+00:00

Heh, most of the NFL owners are white conservatives. Silly commenter.

shimmy · PostOct 16, 2009#2942009-10-16T00:53+00:00

Back to the on-field stuff for a minute, if you're in the mood to laugh at your own team, this is from Sports Illustrated:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/w ... z0U3VpS0N7

innov8ion · PostOct 19, 2009#2952009-10-19T13:20+00:00

This could be the Rams' next stadium: http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local ... 01932.html

DogtownBnR · PostOct 19, 2009#2962009-10-19T13:33+00:00

^Let's hope Checketts can bring it all together and keep this team here. That or any other stadium built in LA, will be awesome I'm sure. Hopefully the Jags will move there first. Then I don't see a better market out there for the Rams to move to.

Regarding the game, as much as I wish the Rams could win one and end the streak, we are still on pace for the number one overall pick in the draft. How thin are the Rams at wide receiver!! Torry Holt looked pretty good to me. We should have kept him. He is better than anything we have. How could this staff leave training camp so thin at wide out!! I see the defense being strong here down the road under this staff. I question the offense though. They are just awful. The play calling suks!

I only see 2 chances to win the rest of the way. At Detroit and at the Titans. Even those games are looking less and less winable. I would hate to see an 0-16 season, but if it means high draft picks, so be it. You'd just hate the Rams not to pick a franchise type player.

innov8ion · PostOct 19, 2009#2972009-10-19T13:36+00:00

And I thought the Bears were thin at wide receiver. It turns out the unsung guys on that squad are really pulling through (helps that they have a real QB, too.) Perhaps the Rams should change their name to the Sheep.

debaliviere · PostOct 19, 2009#2982009-10-19T13:41+00:00

innov8ion wrote:This could be the Rams' next stadium: http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local ... 01932.html

Looks like a nice stadium for the Jags.

innov8ion · PostOct 20, 2009#2992009-10-20T12:42+00:00

When are the Rams going to pony up for some real wide receivers? w.t.f...

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports ... enDocument

debaliviere · PostOct 20, 2009#3002009-10-20T13:38+00:00

innov8ion wrote:When are the Rams going to pony up for some real wide receivers? w.t.f...

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports ... enDocument

The tough part is, they don't have any cap space. They're totally weighed down with "dead money" from guys like Drew Bennett. I would love to have Bruce and/or Holt back.

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