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PostOct 06, 2009#251

A "local" ownership group may also be more willing to compromise on the Dome, which would more than make up for stupid politics. I'm more interested in the Checketts part of the deal, because I don't think he would allow Rush to be up front making any comments that people would find inappropriate. I also have to think Rush is smart enough to avoid dumb controversy.

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PostOct 06, 2009#252

What happened to that London rumor not too far back? As long as they keep the team in St. Louis I'd have no problem with a foreigner owning the team. It could potentially help in making St. Louis an international city. Checketts as the majority owner with London replacing Limbaugh. The NFL wouldn't move them to London but I could see a pre-season game played over there every so often.



Anything other than Rush Limbaugh injecting politics and race where its not needed. His mere association with the team has done that already.



http://myespn.go.com/s/conversations/show/story/4535583



Limbaugh would become the face of St. Louis. I can already see him in a Rams version of the Blues 'the last piece is you commercial'.

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PostOct 06, 2009#253

I have a feeling Checketts would be the face of the Rams, like he's the face of the Blues.


This cracked me up from the STLToday forum

Okay, I grew up in Los Angeles and as a child would go to all the home games at the coliseum and enjoyed good and great teams year in and year out. Then Georgia takes over the team. The team moves to Anaheim and become a laughing stock franchise for many years. GF takes the team to ST Louis once the fans decided not to support a hideously run and mis-managed. A few Warner/Martz/Faulk years did much to dispel decades of GF screwed up ownership and FO. To make matters worse the Rams have a chance to return to Los Angeles and be a big time player again and Georgia's lapdog kids become intent on keeping the team in St Louis...no, it gets better...Gerogia's offspring might sell to arguably the ugliest personality on the media stage--Rush Limbaugh.



If this happens, I will turn in my life membership card as a Ram fan. I will not support a team owned by the blowhole/a-+++ Limbaugh.



I'll always have the Gabriel, Martz, Warner, and Faulk memories.


He wants the Rams to move back the LA, and now that they're not, he wants us to feel his outrage? I think this has less to do with Limbaugh more to do with this guy wanting the Rams in LA.



The NFL has to approve Limbaugh being partial owner, but I doubt Limbaugh becomes the face of St. Louis. Checketts will probably be the public owner of the Rams and Limbaugh will probably be more quiet about it. Can the Rams be more of a laughing stock than they are now?



I hope the Rams take Checketts' and Limbaugh's bid so the Rams stay here. Then hopefully the NFL approves. You don't have to like Limbaugh, but I don't see anyone else stepping up to keep the Rams in St. Louis.

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PostOct 06, 2009#254

How does Limbaugh not become the face of the Rams? He's a bigger name than Checketts and all anyone can talk about over this story is Rush Limbaugh. To think otherwise would be delusional.

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PostOct 06, 2009#255

Look at it this way, anyone who claims they would not support the Sheep if Rush is an owner really isn't that much of a Sheep fan anyway.... Screw them, let them disown the franchise - there are PLENTY of people in this town who who will support the team.

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PostOct 06, 2009#256

The Miami Dolphins ownership group includes Venus and Serena Williams, Gloria Estefan and Marc Anthony, and you don't see them everywhere talking about the Dolphins.



I would guess that Rush would just continue doing his show and pop in to STL on Sundays.

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PostOct 06, 2009#257

Bottom line, fans want a winning team. If the Rams start winning, Oprah could own them for all I would care. I think most people feel the same way.



You can stand on principle about not supporting them if Limbaugh owns them. But I think if they start winning, most people won't care.



Checketts himself was on Glenn Beck a while back. Nobody cares.



Why make it political?

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PostOct 06, 2009#258

I guess I'll just have to find a way to be a fan of the players on the field and not ownership. God its tough being a Rams fan.

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PostOct 06, 2009#259

Arch_Genesis wrote:I guess I'll just have to find a way to be a fan of the players on the field and not ownership.


For me it won't be that hard. I've been doing the same for the Cardinals since they were purchased by the Dimwitts.

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PostOct 06, 2009#260

The most important thing is that the Rams stay in StL. The NFL wants this as part of any purchase. On this, I’m very happy.



Buyers of NFL teams make their purchases for three reasons: love of the game, personal investment, and ego / self-validation. The Checketts/Limbaugh group would have all three, and in this order, which is what we need. They will make the Rams a solid football team again, making money that goes into a better lineup, and from there more revenues and hopefully a return to the Playoffs. Plus, Checketts’ involvement means work being done for complementary ventures, the Blues & the Kiel, could be further supported and work synergistically with the Rams and the Jones Dome. It could really tie in cooperative efforts between work on both sides of the Central Business District.



And personally, I could care less about who puts up the money to buy the Rams so long as they stay here. It could be Michael Moore and Ann Coulter teaming up for a giant experiment on the efficacies of mid-American capitalism, and it wouldn’t change a thing on the field or in the management. There’s no politics in this unless you want there to be.



Anyone, that is, except Bill Bidwell; F that guy.

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PostOct 06, 2009#261

^If Checketts succeeds here, as well as turning around the blues and rehabbing the opera house, build them the new stadium even if they aren't in any danger of going anywhere. Throw the damn guy a bone.

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And another note, while I am dreaming, Checketts can sell Real Salt Lake and invest in an MLS team with Cooper using the new stadium for both his Rams and United (Like Allen and the Seahawks/Sounders). WOO!

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PostOct 07, 2009#263

I say we play hardball with the NFL. They moved our team once, and we just took someone else's team. We ought to start the rumor that if they move our team again, we'll build a monster stadium this time and take the Bears from Chicago. That will teach them to mess with us. : )



Is the dome really so awful? They have improved the sound system and added some amenities like the new giant video board. I am a PSL holder, and would prefer to have an open air stadium. But when it is raining or 0 degrees during the playoffs, I'm kind of glad to have a dome. I think the seats are about as close as any stadium I've seen, on average. Some of those seats in the Dallas stadium look like they are far enough away to require a new zip code. Of course they can always watch the big screen TV instead of the field.



I don't see that many qualitative differences between the Detroit Dome, the Arizona dome, the St. Louis dome, and the Dallas dome. If they just put more and brighter lights in the dome, it will be as bright as outside. What amenities puts a stadium in the top 8 -- newer concrete? Or cages over the crowd with dancing Cowboy Cheerleaders? More luxury skyboxes? More bars? How about a giant empty parking lot miles from downtown and downtown bars and restaurants?

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PostOct 07, 2009#264

People rave about how the Dallas stadium holds 100,000 people, but what they don't say is that 20,000 of those people have to stand for the entire game. Cage dancers? Give me a break; it's football, for god's sake! The place is ridiculous, and I hope we never try to copy it.

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PostOct 07, 2009#265

Limbaugh is a complete tool. He says outlandish things and then his supporters all claim he is just "illustrating absurdity by being absurd".



Well if that is the case is there anything he says that should be taken seriously? When your supporters defend you after you blame the President for the fight in Belleville and claim the buses should be resegregated is there anything these dittoheads won't rebut with their "absurdity" defense? The real joke is on the Republican Party, once a great institution now they walk on eggshells around this fat, Oxy popping dropout!



However, that being said bigger d-bags have owned franchises and if he can keep his politics out of ownership of the team I'm all for it. Checketts will be calling the shots anyway.

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PostOct 08, 2009#266

Bryan Burwell at the Post brought up a good point. It could put a crimp into the Rams ability to sign high-profile free agents. Some black players in particular might choose not to play for a team partly owned by Limbaugh.

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PostOct 08, 2009#267

On the other hand, most NFL players are just looking for a paycheck to cash, so I'm not sure if that really will make a difference if the Rams are willing to pay them.

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PostOct 08, 2009#268

MattnSTL wrote:On the other hand, most NFL players are just looking for a paycheck to cash, so I'm not sure if that really will make a difference if the Rams are willing to pay them.


Exactly. They care about the numbers on their paychecks- not the signature. :wink:



And FWIW, a lot of House Republicans are starting to distance themselves from the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) has also been quite critical. Rush and his ilk may have started as entertainers, but plainly there are a lot of people that take their schtick as literal marching orders. Anyway, I still don't think it will impact the Rams if Limbaugh buys a share of the team. Checketts is the experienced sports executive- and he'll be the one calling the shots.

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PostOct 08, 2009#269

If the team is good and the checks cash, the player will sign here. (More so the latter than the former)



I think the Dome would be fine with a transparent roof or an opening like Dallas, that closes in inclimate weather. Light up the place from the roof to the floor. The entire upper deck is so dark. That is the solution. Location is fine. Lack of quality tailgating is the only issue. Bring a good team here and people will tailgate any place they can. Put a winner on the field first and foremost, the rest will come.

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PostOct 11, 2009#270

I think they are getting closer to at least being in a position to win some games. Ugly on the scoreboard but some improvement was evident. Take away three bad turnovers and who knows how close that could have been today. You know it's a bad local sports weekend when the Rams are your last hope for a W.

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PostOct 11, 2009#271

^exactly and we're missing a few of our pieces Butler, Robinson. Schumur finally decided to use Avery vertically and we put up 400 yards today. Lauranitis is our best draft pick since Steven Jackson. We also held AP to 69 yards he only picked up two TDs in the redzone. The offense managed to stay on the field for sometime as well allowing the defense to get a blow.



Not that many penalties either just bad fumbles and an ugly score but there were a lot of positives out there. We're making progress.



Next weeks game against Jacksonville should be interesting. If we keep the freak fumbles to 0 we'll be in it til the end.

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PostOct 12, 2009#272

I didn't see the game so I can't judge, but you can't really say "If we didn't turn the ball over it could have been a ball game" because that's the thing, good teams don't turn the ball over.

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PostOct 12, 2009#273

Arch_Genesis wrote:Lauranitis is our best draft pick since Steven Jackson.


That's funny, I said the exact same thing to my dad in the car on our way to the game. I'm so glad we went with him over Maualuga.



Did Jason Smith play at all? I either couldn't tell, or wasn't paying attention.



I agree that they're definitely improving. Cut down on the penalties and turnovers, and you've got a competitive team. I guess we'll be seeing Bulger out there against Jacksonville, so I'm glad he was able to get some reps in Sunday.



It was so nice to see Avery, Burton and Amendola involved and contributing. I'm optimistic for the future.

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PostOct 12, 2009#274

Anyone read this this about the Rams sale and the Limbaugh factor?



http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4551010



Who are these guys? Donald Watkins and Dave Steward.



Regarding Sundays game versus the Vikings, turnovers=loss, simple as that.

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PostOct 12, 2009#275

Dave Steward is the head of Worldwide Technology.

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